Why Peyton Manning is the Greatest NFL QB of All-Time

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People keep talkin about how anybody can be a wr for the Colts. Last time i checked Reggie Wayne is still on the field. smh. Don't tell me Peyton makes him either. Peyton is a choking qb. Great but definitely not the greatest.
 

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mldardy;3672477 said:
Please. In order to be the greatest QB of all time you need to have more than Super Bowl ring, not choke everytime you are the number 1 seed in the playoffs and not throw a pick six in the biggest game of your life. Manning is a great regular season QB but I will take Elway, Montana, Unitas, and other QB's who came through in big moments over him.


Ok I'm just curious about something here.

Without TD and the Broncos defense of 97 and 98 does Elway make your list of best QBs ahead of Manning?

I mean you're bagging on Manning for only winning 1, and throwing a pick that ended the game in his second appearance in the ultimate game, yet Elway is on your list and he threw picks and did nothing to help his team while they lost 3 prior to TD and that defense showing up for him to go out on top.

Now don't get me wrong I love Elway and I was proudly as proud as any Bronco fans were to see Elway win one but these type of comments about him irk me.

Peyton gets bagged for not winning enough Superbowls, which is a team thing, and Elway gets loved as one of the greatest for winning two and some how people seem to forget before he had a real team around him he was 0-3 in the ultimate game.
 

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I think the article was very poor. The writer is speculating on an awful lot.
 

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Take the contenders and then look at what their stats were in the SB and playoffs. Montana is simply a lot better in the biggest games.
 

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I really think Skip Bayless sums Peyton up the best.

"Peyton is the best REGULAR SEASON qb ever to play."

If you look at his playoff numbers, they aren't impressive. The year they won the SB was almost all on the defense in the post-season.

2007
Wild Card 30-38 268 yards 1 td-3int's 71.9 rating
Division 15-30 170 yards 0 td-2 int's 39.6 rating
Champion 27-47 349 yards 1 td 1 int 79.1 rating
Superbowl 25-38 247 yards 1 td-1int 81.8 rating

So he averaged

24 completions 38.25 attempts 258 ypg .75 tds/1.75 int's and a 68.1 rating for the post season that year.
 

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I really want to know who outs side of ****sburg whod take ben over Peyton?
 

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Peyton's not even the greatest QB of his era, that would be Mr. Brady.
All-time
1 Montana (hurts to admit)
2 Staubach
3 Brady
4 Elway
5 Favre
6 P. Manning
7 Bradshaw
8 Unitas
9 Aikman
10 Marino
 

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Royal Laegotti;3674265 said:
Peyton's not even the greatest QB of his era, that would be Mr. Brady.
All-time
1 Montana (hurts to admit)
2 Staubach
3 Brady
4 Elway
5 Favre
6 P. Manning
7 Bradshaw
8 Unitas
9 Aikman
10 Marino

Its hard for me to take this list seriously when you have Marino so far down on the list and Farve so high
 

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BraveHeartFan;3673711 said:
Ok I'm just curious about something here.

Without TD and the Broncos defense of 97 and 98 does Elway make your list of best QBs ahead of Manning?

I mean you're bagging on Manning for only winning 1, and throwing a pick that ended the game in his second appearance in the ultimate game, yet Elway is on your list and he threw picks and did nothing to help his team while they lost 3 prior to TD and that defense showing up for him to go out on top.

Now don't get me wrong I love Elway and I was proudly as proud as any Bronco fans were to see Elway win one but these type of comments about him irk me.

Peyton gets bagged for not winning enough Superbowls, which is a team thing, and Elway gets loved as one of the greatest for winning two and some how people seem to forget before he had a real team around him he was 0-3 in the ultimate game.
Well heck without any help do you know any QB that can win it by themselves? I don't know of any but if you do let me know. The Broncos defense was average but they weren't the reason the Broncos won the Super Bowl.

Now on to your other point. Those 3 SB losses Elway has, you and everyone else knows his teams were clearly outmanned from the get go. Elway had little to no chance in those games.The point is not Elway losing those SB's. The point is Manning has come up short time and time again many times when his teams were favored to win. In addition to the pick six in the Super Bowl, the 4 INT game at NE, the loss against the Steelers where he and the offense slept for 3 quarters. There have been others but these are the 3 that stand out for me. Elway didn't make these mistakes very often especially when his team was favored or had the homefield advantage. and definitely didn't throw a game winning INT with the game on the line in the Super Bowl The only game I recall Elway failing was the loss to Jacksonville in 96.
 

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the kid 05;3674273 said:
Its hard for me to take this list seriously when you have Marino so far down on the list and Farve so high
I agree with that. Favre should be at best number 10 on this list.
 

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the kid 05;3674273 said:
Its hard for me to take this list seriously when you have Marino so far down on the list and Farve so high

If you like stats Favre's got more. If you like rings Favre's got more!

This list is just my opinion, if you don't take it seriously make up one you can take seriously!
 

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Royal Laegotti;3674287 said:
If you like stats Favre's got more. If you like rings Favre's got more!

This list is just my opinion, if you don't take it seriously make up one you can take seriously!
If you like INT's and throwing them to cost your team time and time again, Favre's definitely got more. Favre is so overrated to me. He might have one more ring than Marino but I guarantee Favre has cost his team more in big games than Marino has.
 

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mldardy;3673664 said:
I can't stand when people do this. You know good and well Dilfer and Manning aren't on the level of Marino and neither of those two were the reasons or specifically main reasons why their teams won the Super Bowl. Dilfer and Eli had great support(specifically defensive support around them) to greatly assist them in winning Super Bowls. Marino didn't have this support but we all know what kind of QB he was. Montana was a 3 time Super Bowl MVP and was a large reason for winning 4 Super Bowls. So NO the line of though isn't that Eli is better than Marino, the line of thought is both Montana and Peyton are great QB's but Montana performed great in the ultimate games where Peyton has not.

It wouldn't need to be "done" if people would quit angling the trophy argument when there's more to be considered.
 

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mldardy;3674290 said:
If you like INT's and throwing them to cost your team time and time again, Favre's definitely go more. Favre is so overrated to me. He might have one more ring than Marino but I guarantee Favre has cost his team more in big games than Marino has.

Fair enough but I wouldn't say he's overrated. When your a 40 year old QB and you get your team 1 sudden death OT from the Superbowl in your 1st year with them, that's pretty salty if you ask me.
 

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Hoofbite;3674296 said:
It wouldn't need to be "done" if people would quit angling the trophy argument when there's more to be considered.
You CAN make the trophy argument but don't make the silly ones like you did with the classic 'well Dilfer must be better than Marino because he has a SB ring'. That is the argument that needs to go away.
 

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mldardy;3674302 said:
You CAN make the trophy argument but don't make the silly ones like you did with the classic 'well Dilfer must be better than Marino because he has a SB ring'. That is the argument that needs to go away.
Ray Lewis was a better QB than Dilfer but they needed him at LB.

jk
 

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Royal Laegotti;3674287 said:
If you like stats Favre's got more. If you like rings Favre's got more!

This list is just my opinion, if you don't take it seriously make up one you can take seriously!

yes he has high stats but hes also been playing pro football for almost as long as i've been alive...so his stats dang well better be high.

Having super bowl rings doesn't mean you should be high on the list. Going off that logic that means the 49ers are the best team in the NFL as they are 5/5 in championship games, then steelers 6/1 then dallas at 5/3
 

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the kid 05;3674308 said:
yes he has high stats but hes also been playing pro football for almost as long as i've been alive...so his stats dang well better be high.

Having super bowl rings doesn't mean you should be high on the list. Going off that logic that means the 49ers are the best team in the NFL as they are 5/5 in championship games, then steelers 6/1 then dallas at 5/3

As I said before it's just my opinion. Obviously you disagree, fine. As for the greatest team. I guess it's a toss up bx those three, they all have good aspects that are unique. Dallas has been to the most SB's. Pittsburgh has the most SB wins. San Fran. has SB perfection. One could even argue for Green Bay having the most championships with 11 NFL/SB. I just wish we could go back in time and make Dallas 8-0 then we'd have the best of the SB era.
 

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Peyton from what I remember has never set the games on fire in the postseason. While Montana quite often had a higher post season passer rating than he had during the regular season. To me that breaks any tie: a QB that plays better in the postseason should always get the edge.
 
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