Why should we do right by Romo?

[big dog cowboy]

Dak can still regress, anyone who doubts that, look at RG3.

BTW that is a horrible comparison. Each of their games are opposite of each other. There is a reason RG3 is out of the league.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

His value really can't go down. There is no other QB out there unless you are desperate for someone like Cutler. No QB in this draft will come in and do the job like Romo can.

Precisely! On top of that, by keeping him we hedge ourselves if Prescott regresses or busts. It is the right move on almost every front, except for in the media.

 

[iRepDatStar]

If clearing 10m of cap room costs a 2nd, heck yeah I do.

It is all about where the market is at. The market just shot up. I'm going long time (theta for any finance nerds) in this situation.

no1 is giving up a 1st rounder for romo right now

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Everyone keeps saying Dak can regress, why don't we say Zeke can regress also? Or does that only apply to QB's and no other position? Todd Gurley didn't exactly get better in his 2nd year.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

BTW that is a horrible comparison. Each of their games are opposite of each other. There is a reason RG3 is out of the league.

He is Cleveland's back-up... personally if I was QB desperate I'd give him a shot, many, many guys with far less upside still playing. He is only 25 I believe. (edit, checked, he is 27, just turned 27 a few weeks back. Odd how much higher 27 seems versus 26 when valuing a player.)

Yeah, in terms of playing styles not an apt comparison, but I was more so referring to the high-profile success. That is a much different beast than just having a good year, completely different sort of pressure. Dak seems to be handling it with absolute class and prowess, last guy that surprised me to this extent in the way they handled being a shooting start to elite player to that extent was RG3.

 

[MWH1967]

Its called politely with an undertone of respectful/humility......while all along the old geezer taps into his best let me see if I can get anything for this thread bare tire before I throw it in the recycle ben. I would love it if just one person reads this as black and white..

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Everyone keeps saying Dak can regress, why don't we say Zeke can regress also? Or does that only apply to QB's and no other position?

It does apply to Zeke as well but the differences here are stark - sure, plenty of players bust, but those in the top 5? Well, they're being drafted so high because the expected probability of them busting is so much lower - not too frequently do you see top 5 guys, absolutely go beast-mode from day 1, and then crash into the ground. If they sustain the jump with college to the pros as seamlessly as Zeke did while being of that class, they usually don't go on to bust. Some do, plenty do, but not as often.

Also, I am expecting a pull-back. He was the top guy in the league his rookie year, he is either looking at having to do this for 4 more years until he makes big money, or he's going to run himself to death before he even gets the shot to make the big bucks, or he's going to tone back his playing style.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

Its called politely with an undertone of respectful/humility......while all along the old geezer taps into his best let me see if I can get anything for this thread bare tire before I throw it in the recycle ben. I would love it if just one person reads this as black and white..

At this point, haven't we already lost the moral high-ground by changing our tone at the last moment about releasing him for all the great noble reasons the press have been blabbering about for months now?

 

[haleyrules]

Everyone keeps saying Dak can regress, why don't we say Zeke can regress also? Or does that only apply to QB's and no other position? Todd Gurley didn't exactly get better in his 2nd year.

Well, with RB's, truthfully you can never be sure how long or at what level they can sustain. l seems to me that Prescott will be around much longer that a RB with Elliotts bruising style.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

why?

because in the process of trying to win games, he has broken his back twice, punctured his lung, broken his collar bone twice, and had a ton of other injuries.

If you want to have the respect of players that will play for you in the future, you treat guys like that with class and respect.

 

[MWH1967]

At this point, haven't we already lost the moral high-ground by changing our tone at the last moment about releasing him for all the great noble reasons the press have been blabbering about for months now?

I still think Tony would be ok with it as long as he feels he is being treated fairly. After all it is first and for most a business and Brand.

 

[lukin2006]

We shouldn't ... I'd trade him to ever offered us the best deal. It's not up to Dallas to be concerned whether Romo likes his new team. The FO needs to get the best value for Romo.

 

[superonyx]

You do right by players because it's the right thing to do.

That's how you get your core players to resign with you and not test the market because they trust Jerry when he tells them that they won't be traded.

Doing right by players leads to your left tackle, one of the most expensive positions in the league, signing an all time home town discount contract. It's also how you get Terence Williams to sign a contract half what a lot of people projected for him.

Loyalty goes both ways, you don't hold players hostage in the NFL. It literally doesn't happen. If you can't find a trading partner it is because Romo has limited value so you release him.

Some fans are under the impression he is worth a boat load of picks, he's not. He's not a whole lot more valuable than Jay Cutler at this point until he proves he can last two games in a row without an injury.

Well said.
The Cowboys consider Romo to be a member of the Cowboys family. You don't crap on your family for your own gain.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

why?

because in the process of trying to win games, he has broken his back twice, punctured his lung, broken his collar bone twice, and had a ton of other injuries.

If you want to have the respect of players that will play for you in the future, you treat guys like that with class and respect.

and during that process, a 2nd generation immigrant, born to a father who came here from Mexico, went to a mediocre college, where if I recall correctly he didn't even receive a scholarship, then went undrafted before signing on as what looked like a spot as a training camp dummy.... was one of the last not to get cut, went on to get a shot, became a media superstar and potential hall of famer in the NFL, now is worth well north of 100m.

Guy has been smart with his money, markets have done extremely well during his career - couldn't really screw that part up unless he spent it all, which he hasn't. His wife also earns a strong bit..... point is, he has been well compensated for his services. This is business. The service we need from him is to trade him for the most value he can possibly extract - the market is at a low, wait for earnings to pick up next quarter.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

It does apply to Zeke as well but the differences here are stark - sure, plenty of players bust, but those in the top 5? Well, they're being drafted so high because the expected probability of them busting is so much lower - not too frequently do you see top 5 guys, absolutely go beast-mode from day 1, and then crash into the ground. If they sustain the jump with college to the pros as seamlessly as Zeke did while being of that class, they usually don't go on to bust. Some do, plenty do, but not as often.

Also, I am expecting a pull-back. He was the top guy in the league his rookie year, he is either looking at having to do this for 4 more years until he makes big money, or he's going to run himself to death before he even gets the shot to make the big bucks, or he's going to tone back his playing style.

I know Dak will put in the work to get better and that can only help. His understanding of the offense, reading defenses, etc. Can only improve. So to say he will pull back, I can only go with what makes Dak tick. The guy loves the game, and wants to get better. He is a student of the game and is a hard worker off the field. I doubt we can say those things about RGIII.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

You do right by players because it's the right thing to do.

That's how you get your core players to resign with you and not test the market because they trust Jerry when he tells them that they won't be traded.

Doing right by players leads to your left tackle, one of the most expensive positions in the league, signing an all time home town discount contract. It's also how you get Terence Williams to sign a contract half what a lot of people projected for him.

Loyalty goes both ways, you don't hold players hostage in the NFL. It literally doesn't happen. If you can't find a trading partner it is because Romo has limited value so you release him.

Some fans are under the impression he is worth a boat load of picks, he's not. He's not a whole lot more valuable than Jay Cutler at this point until he proves he can last two games in a row without an injury.

It has happened a few times, and the team who does it always seems to come out on top. It is the right move.

 

[superonyx]

We shouldn't ... I'd trade him to ever offered us the best deal. It's not up to Dallas to be concerned whether Romo likes his new team. The FO needs to get the best value for Romo.

You would because you have not known him and have not gone to war with him for the last 14 years.
You have not had Christmas with his wife and you don't know his children.

You have the luxury of sitting behind your keyboard and speaking about what you would do without having any personal relationships with either party.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

I know Dak will put in the work to get better and that can only help. His understanding of the offense, reading defenses, etc. Can only improve. So to say he will pull back, I can only go with what makes Dak tick. The guy loves the game, and wants to get better. He is a student of the game and is a hard worker off the field. I doubt we can say those things about RGIII.

Why not? People did say most of those things about RG3.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

You would because you have not known him and have not gone to war with him for the last 14 years.
You have not had Christmas with his wife and you don't know his children.

You have the luxury of sitting behind your keyboard and speaking about what you would do without having any personal relationships with either party.

You pretty much just demonstrated why psychopaths are so much more successful in business than people that are highly compassionate.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Why not? People did say most of those things about RG3.

I haven't read RGIII is a student of the game and has a drive to get better. Where is his drive to get better now? He sure hasn't shown it on the field.