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Why Smith over Constanzo?

Here is my thing, I'm not in love with Tyron Smith and would be just as happy with Carimi. But if Dallas has to pick at 9 then I want Smith. If we trade back I want us to trade back far enough to add several picks and still get Carimi. Either way I'm happy.
 
supercowboy8;3910179 said:
Here is my thing, I'm not in love with Tyron Smith and would be just as happy with Carimi. But if Dallas has to pick at 9 then I want Smith. If we trade back I want us to trade back far enough to add several picks and still get Carimi. Either way I'm happy.

Agreed.
 
PullMyFinger;3910045 said:
He was a four year starter too

Nominated for Rhodes scholar as well. From boston College where they produce excellent OLinemen. Kid has a lot going for him.
 
supercowboy8;3910179 said:
But if Dallas has to pick at 9 then I want Smith. If we trade back I want us to trade back far enough to add several picks and still get Carimi.
That sounds like a great start. Depending on what we get, I'm almost in favor of trading back a few spots provided Carimi is still there for us.
 
I would rather get the better player than another 3rd rd pick that would be later than ours.

This guy will not be 21 until late in the season; think of how long we could have him. To me that is a rarely mentioned reason. I think he might be younger than Witten was when we got him.
 
supercowboy8;3910179 said:
Here is my thing, I'm not in love with Tyron Smith and would be just as happy with Carimi. But if Dallas has to pick at 9 then I want Smith. If we trade back I want us to trade back far enough to add several picks and still get Carimi. Either way I'm happy.

this exactly
 
Solder is like 6'13" and not that strong. I think he will get eaten up by the Trent Coles of the league and he worries the hell out of me. I dont trust his bend on the guys who get low.

He did the least amount of reps among OL. 8 less reps than Tyron w/ 1 inch shorter arms.

I think most of these guys could get right under his pads and throw him around
 
burmafrd;3910245 said:
I would rather get the better player than another 3rd rd pick that would be later than ours.

This guy will not be 21 until late in the season; think of how long we could have him. To me that is a rarely mentioned reason.

That's funny, because that's the only reason I typically see
 
burmafrd;3910359 said:
not around here.

Yes around here. Go browse some of the Tyron Smith threads. You'll see his age mentioned in just about every positive post
 
The fact that he's 20 gets mentioned all the time, usually right before the fact that he'll be a starter for 10+ years.
 
gimmesix;3910021 said:
Just bought three draft guides today and two of them rate Anthony Constanzo as the top offensive tackle available in the draft.

However, in discussions I've seen here, it appears the Tyron Smith is preferred over Constanzo (possibly even by the Cowboys). Why is that?

Now, I've read about Smith's tremendous upside (if that's the reason), but it seems to me (based on what I've read) that Constanzo is more of a sure bet and a better possibility to step in immediately as a starter.
This one I think we really know the answer to for a year or three.
 
I agree with the majority here he is only "20" you cannot state this enough he is only half of what he "could" be. Sometime you have to take a shot with the upside this young man has. Back to that UNC BC clip that was a healthy Duenta Williams in that clip who's going to drop because of an injury going to be steal in the latter rounds
 
That's what everyone was saying about Amobi Okoye..didn't turn out that great for Houston..

I want the guy bc I think he's the best..not bc of his age
 
I agree that Anthony Castonzo started for 4 years and is more experienced to play RT this year, but Castonzo looks over matched early vs Quinns' speed rush. In the NFL there will be a Quinn in the game every week. He doesn't look like he will be able play LT on the next level.

Tyron is an unproven comodity, but a super high cieling prospect as an athlete as good or better than some of the elite LTs in the game were when they came out in the Draft.


With what we already know it says alot that Smith was able to put on alot of wieght by the Combine and Proday respectively, and keep his speed. As a 309 lbs OT he could dominate this year at RT on pure athleticism.


At 319 lbs next year, he could be our best OT.
 
GloryDaysRBack;3910580 said:
That's what everyone was saying about Amobi Okoye..didn't turn out that great for Houston..

I want the guy bc I think he's the best..not bc of his age

Me too.When you sell a guy by saying he's not nearly as good he could be, red flags go up. We see these type of guys every year and all the hype following the combine apparently wipes our memory clear
 
Gaede;3910613 said:
Me too.When you sell a guy by saying he's not nearly as good he could be, red flags go up. We see these type of guys every year and all the hype following the combine apparently wipes our memory clear

The same thing can be said about taking the "safer" or "sure thing" in Castanzo.

See Bobby Carpenter.

The reality is nobody knows either way.
 
Since when is a guy that started for two years at a BCS level school inexperienced? Remember that he is only a Junior....not many of them play at a school like So Cal but he was the backup as a freshman and played special teams, then started as a sophomore and junior. This is a team that is on National TV every week. If you haven't seen him play it's because you haven't watched much college football. Some folks make it sound like he came from Sonoma St or Emporia St for crying out loud.

The game tape is out there. He looks consistently better than any of the top tier of tackles and has the highest ceiling of any of them. Castonzo has serious troubles with speed and Solder had trouble with both speed and power. I honestly don't know how anyone can watch video of Solder and say with a straight face that he is nearly as good right now than Carimi, Smith, Sherrod or Castonzo.

Almost across the board the scouts say that Carimi's best fit might be at guard. He has potential to be a RT in the pros. He does actually have better measureables than most of us expected. But he doesn't really seem to translate his athleticism on to the field.
 
supercowboy8;3910087 said:
actually his hand punch is quite strong. I have seen many games as when Tyron Smith knocks defenders back with one punch in pass protection. He has real long arms and a great punch. My only problem with Smith is when people call him a LT. He isn't a LT right now I don't want him to play LT next year, in 5 years lets see where he is. You can argue taking a RT at 9 but San Fran took Davis at 11 last year. My other problem with Smith is in run blocking, he can get to the second level no problem, its his initial off the line hit. He goes to high at times and miss his block. But thats just coaching which he will get. I wouldn't draft him at 9 if I needed a LT this year, but he can come in and start day one at RT.

I'm sick of all this talk and just ready for the draft.


Amen.
 

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