Why the Defense cant stop the Run

[Frosty]

Teams know they can RUN against Dallas, why, what is the problem, scheme, lack of size at NT or LB, or just lack of quailty depth.

The lack of a solid run defense has plagued the cowboys for years..The defense still has no identity, except bend and dont break. Tampa's running attack sure looked a lot like last years game against Baltimore.

Even though some fan will post crazy stats that show dallas is #1 against the run, Here is a challenge... to all the monday morning Coach's,

Breakdown the game down and tell/show us, why this team is not able to stop the run? what is the key to stopping the run? or is Phillips, bend and dont break defense the defense of choice?

 

[superpunk]

I've said it elsewhere, but just from watching it once, and going off my gut feeling on this, I think it is poor gap control from our ends (and OLBs) combined with weak play from our ILBs.

On alot of the bigger plays our entire defense got washed down playside, and whoever had contain on the backside was nowhere to be found.

Overpursuit and poor gap control. We weren't getting blown off the ball, which would be a much bigger problem, IMO.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

No run defense has plagued us for years has it? :laugh2: I guess you don't remember when we ran like 16+ games without a 100 yard rusher.

Our rush D was not great against Tampa, but comparing it to Baltimore where we gave up 2 huge plays back to back is stupid. These zone blocking schemes usually make for some nice pickups for running backs. There's a reason Denver used to be able to get a 1000 yard back out of the 5th round every year.

Let's give ourselves a couple games before we give up on our ability to stop the run. Especially when we just won.

 

[Doomsday101]

Teams know they can RUN against Dallas, why, what is the problem, scheme, lack of size at NT or LB, or just lack of quailty depth.

The lack of a solid run defense has plagued the cowboys for years..The defense still has no identity, except bend and dont break. Tampa's running attack sure looked a lot like last years game against Baltimore.

Even though some fan will post crazy stats that show dallas is #1 against the run, Here is a challenge... to all the monday morning Coach's,

Breakdown the game down and tell/show us, why this team is not able to stop the run? what is the key to stopping the run? or is Phillips, bend and dont break defense the defense of choice?

Bend but don't break defense do not lead the league in sacks as Dallas did last season. Dallas did do a poor job of playing the run yesterday but I don't see this as being an on going problem

 

[Frosty]

Bend but don't break defense do not lead the league in sacks as Dallas did last season. Dallas did do a poor job of playing the run yesterday but I don't see this as being an on going problem

Gotcha, but it is becoming a pattern for this defense, IMO the DB's are coming along and that helps out the Sack ratio and vise versa, but stopping the run, is and has been a problem..and the questions is what or who is the problem, I read an article that Tampa thought they could run, and did a good job running against the Dallas. Why would they think that, what does the film show? thats what I am curious to no. D-Coordinators have found something IMO.

 

[Alexander]

Even though some fan will post crazy stats that show dallas is #1 against the run, Here is a challenge... to all the monday morning Coach's,

Actually is it better to challenge the Monday Morning Pollyannas.

Last year after the first Commander game, Jay Ratliff suddenly just couldn't play. We were terrible and couldn't stop the run. Funny that all went away by the end of the year.

Superpunk hit on it before. Overaggressiveness, poor gap integrity and bad tackling. In one game.

It will get adjusted. This isn't the Campo Cowboys giving up 150+ every game yet.

 

[CATCH17]

Actually is it better to challenge the Monday Morning Pollyannas.

Last year after the first Commander game, Jay Ratliff suddenly just couldn't play. We were terrible and couldn't stop the run. Funny that all went away by the end of the year.

Superpunk hit on it before. Overaggressiveness, poor gap integrity and bad tackling. In one game.

It will get adjusted. This isn't the Campo Cowboys giving up 150+ every game yet.

Agreed.

In 07 I actually thought we were awesome against the RUN.

We absolutely need to improve it but I saw guys penetrating but nobody was making the tackle.

Hopefully we adjust this week but I doubt very seriously our run defense will be poor for the entire year.

 

[Hostile]

Teams know they can RUN against Dallas, why, what is the problem, scheme, lack of size at NT or LB, or just lack of quailty depth.

The lack of a solid run defense has plagued the cowboys for years..The defense still has no identity, except bend and dont break. Tampa's running attack sure looked a lot like last years game against Baltimore.

Even though some fan will post crazy stats that show dallas is #1 against the run, Here is a challenge... to all the monday morning Coach's,

Breakdown the game down and tell/show us, why this team is not able to stop the run? what is the key to stopping the run? or is Phillips, bend and dont break defense the defense of choice?

Oh cute. You tell us that the Cowboys cannot stop the run, offer no proof, just a one game observation and then say it is incumbent upon us to prove differently.

Why bother? Your mind is made up and it is a waste of time to discuss anything with a closed minded discussion already in place.

Love the run defense has "plagued" the Cowboys for years crappola. Hyperbole run amok strikes yet again.

 

[WarDaddy]

The Boys have been far above league average since Parcells installed the 3-4 and the trend continued with Wade. But every once in a while (usually once a season) the guys will turn in a stinker. Hopefully, this will not be a trend and I honestly doubt that it will.

Every member of the front 4 has been stout against the run in their career and there is no reason to believe that won't continue into this season.

I'll blame yesterday on the heat, the lack insight has to what Tampa would do with a new coordinator and, probably the most telling and overlooked fact in all of this, that Tampa will probably end up a top 5 rushing team at season end.

 

[Wrangler87]

It's simple.

Tampa directly attacked our undersized NT and it worked. They ran right at him, moved him completely out of the play or knocked him to the ground, and gave their RB's giant holes to cut back on the LB's.

 

[dmq]

I think we will be ok. It was the first game of the season. Believe me, Wade will look at the tape and get this fixed.
That said, I would love if we moved Ratliff to the outside and drafted a huge DT to play the middle. Too bad they don't grow on trees.

 

[Wrangler87]

Oh cute. You tell us that the Cowboys cannot stop the run, offer no proof, just a one game observation and then say it is incumbent upon us to prove differently.

Why bother? Your mind is made up and it is a waste of time to discuss anything with a closed minded discussion already in place.

Love the run defense has "plagued" the Cowboys for years crappola. Hyperbole run amok strikes yet again.

It's a copycat league. The Giants will do exactly what Tampa did, only with better players. So, you can call it just one week, but history shows when a weakness is taken advantage of, other teams will take advantage of that same weakness.

 

[Rampage]

we usually defend the run pretty well but yesterday as we know just wasn't one of those days. guys looked slow and weren't doing their jobs. The biggest reason imo on why our run defense was terrible yesterday was because out tackling was the worst of all the the teams I saw take the field on Sunday.

 

[Ren]

Wade is "explaining" it now they don't practice their blitzes cause they don't want to hurt people in practice

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Wade is saying right now that he called a lot of blitzes and dogs, some even run blitzes, and we didn't execute them well because they don't run those full speed much in practice -- too easy to get guys hurt when you're doing that. He went back to more base later in the game and they did better on that because they'd run it more in camp and practice.

Makes sense.

I know some will immediately say we should run all that stuff full speed in practice (soft! no hitting 25 days of camp! pads!) but I assume we will work more on it now that we see it wasn't executed well enough in live conditions. And it should get better as actual games are played anyway.

 

[speedkilz88]

Wade said that they had problems with the blitzes, guys didn't keep their run responsibilities even when run blitzing. He said that they were fine when just using their base defense.

 

[Temo]

According to FO.com, run defense rankings:

2008- 14th
2007- 13th
2006- 7th
2005- 23rd

So it's been at least 4 years since our run defense sucked.

 

[NextGenBoys]

I've said it elsewhere, but just from watching it once, and going off my gut feeling on this, I think it is poor gap control from our ends (and OLBs) combined with weak play from our ILBs.

On alot of the bigger plays our entire defense got washed down playside, and whoever had contain on the backside was nowhere to be found.

Overpursuit and poor gap control. We weren't getting blown off the ball, which would be a much bigger problem, IMO.

You're a knowledgeable poster, so I'll take your word from it.

Those are easily correctable things, and you can bet we're going to be focused and hungry next week against our most hated rivals.

I'm not worried about our defense at all. This was one game.

 

[Asklesko]

They would stop the run if they could tackle.

 

[superpunk]

"They ran up teh middle on us guyz it must be cuz we got a small NT an tehy went at him!!!!"

As if there are no other components to it out there.