Why this 2009 is springboard for next season?

[RCowboyFan]

I heard a lot of answers about talent cowboys have etc. One thing we are not accounting, at least not a lot of people are accounting for is, The Monkey's that Cowboys took off their back in 2009.

Why is that important? I think it is big. No more questions, constantly, from Media/fans/experts about, yeah, they won in regular season, but can they do it come December and January? Can they win a playoff without Choking?

I think that is really big. Now team/players don't have to explain their play during regular season etc. Even if they have to, the question won't be about what they will do in December etc. So, One game at a time philosophy will be in full effect, without media constanly trying to bring up December etc.

I think thats big mental burden off the players, not that everyone of them had it, but seemed like, some of them had it ( from what Irvin said before December, on player(s) mentioning about December woes).

Of course, all depends on Health of the team again. They got real lucky in 2009, not sure they will be in 2010.

 

[windward]

Which makes the development of guys like Brewster, Jwill, Hodge, Hamlin et al all the more important if injuries hit. We'll need the depth in order to make a run.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Which makes the development of guys like Brewster, Jwill, Hodge, Hamlin et al all the more important if injuries hit. We'll need the depth in order to make a run.

Yep, thats always the case. But you can never account for every injury. Not trying to jinx, but how you can replace a Ware? Or Jay Ratliff? Or Romo ( maybe for couple of games, becuase Kitna is a viable option for 2-3 games)? Heck even Austin might be not replaceable.

Anyway, if cowboys get lucky with injuries, they can make a deep run, although next season, Schedule will be too tough to get to 10 + wins. NFC North and AFC South are tough divisions to play against. Since especially Cowboys play both the good teams in NFC north on the road.

 

[ShiningStar]

we lost out on a good chance, so that will hurt. We dont know what happens next season, period. Tell me which teams get better and which don't? Tell me who can survive their schedule and who cant? Injuries.

No this is not a springboard for next year nor is it good for the team. They start at 0 again and have to go thru another grueling 16 weeks, even before than, coaches have to be changed, a draft has to be done, a crazy Free Agency period and training camp.

We had this season and blew it and that should be the reminder all the way to next season, thats what Jerry should be harping on with Wade. You dont know if the defense is going to keep up or spark again at the end of the season, we dont know if we are going to have a kicker worth spit.

How did our last draft do? We are still waiting to see if any of them besides Buehler will even be on the team because we dont know what the new draft is going to bring us. What if we dont draft another lineman and 1 injury sends us into 5 losses?

We cant even speculate on the WR's because many people want Ogletree but if Hurd stays on the team and we draft a number WR and this is just praying we were able to dump RW, than Austin is our number 1 thru TC? Anyone really feel comfortable with that? I like him as a second, i cant say for sure I really feel hes a number 1 threat.

There is so much to go on to get going forward as the fans would like but we dont even know if there is going to be coaching changes, I am sure most of us would love one, i know i would. But it may not happen, and if Garrett is kept, what are we going to say if "dare we speak it" We make the playoffs again? You know whats going to be said "This team will play good until they meet a team that puts the pressure on Garrett and Garrett will fold"

I think everyone agrees we dont trust most of our Oline men in the depth department. I think most of us would LOVE to see Free on the line somewhere, and all this is just offense worry, dare we look on the defense?

 

[windward]

I suspect well have a nice record at home and a goal of . 500 on the road. Then we might be in good shape, barring any catastrophes.

 

[windward]

Austin sure as heck played like a number 1 this year.

 

[RCowboyFan]

we lost out on a good chance, so that will hurt. We dont know what happens next season, period. Tell me which teams get better and which don't? Tell me who can survive their schedule and who cant? Injuries.

No this is not a springboard for next year nor is it good for the team.

Losing is never good for a team, unless you are looking for higher draft pick etc.

It has nothing to do with which team will be better and which will not be. My point was about, only thing that this team will avoid is the December colapse and No playoff win stigma. Like I explained, that was a burden for the team to bear for a long time. I think it got them mentally early in December in 2009.

As I injuries play a big part and so does schedule etc. Which is a totally different question. Team blew away a great chance in 2007 too. But you can't dwell in what happened, you can only look forward, since past cannot be changed.

 

[ShiningStar]

Austin sure as heck played like a number 1 this year.

I really didnt ask if he did, i said do you feel comfortable with him at number 1? I personally do not. I dont know why, but I dont feel he is the prototypical number 1 receiver you want spear heading your WR corp.

 

[ShiningStar]

Losing is never good for a team, unless you are looking for higher draft pick etc.

It has nothing to do with which team will be better and which will not be. My point was about, only thing that this team will avoid is the December colapse and No playoff win stigma. Like I explained, that was a burden for the team to bear for a long time. I think it got them mentally early in December in 2009.

As I injuries play a big part and so does schedule etc. Which is a totally different question. Team blew away a great chance in 2007 too. But you can't dwell in what happened, you can only look forward, since past cannot be changed.

I feel Wades history and how this team reacted in the Minnesota game should have been taken into account by Jerry and at least waited a week to make the decision of bringing him back.

I am about options, thats just my way of thinking and I feel the options should have been weighed a little longer on what to do about the 10 season because while the whole "team is intact and playoff material" is more about the "now" thinking, I personally would like to see another coach move in, move in his staff, and his players and start a rebuilding process for the long term instead of these "quick get the glue" decisions Jerry has been making lately that have not panned out and yet works for other teams moreso than us.

 

[BrassCowboy]

we lost out on a good chance, so that will hurt. We dont know what happens next season, period. Tell me which teams get better and which don't? Tell me who can survive their schedule and who cant? Injuries.

No this is not a springboard for next year nor is it good for the team. They start at 0 again and have to go thru another grueling 16 weeks, even before than, coaches have to be changed, a draft has to be done, a crazy Free Agency period and training camp.

We had this season and blew it and that should be the reminder all the way to next season, thats what Jerry should be harping on with Wade. You dont know if the defense is going to keep up or spark again at the end of the season, we dont know if we are going to have a kicker worth spit.

How did our last draft do? We are still waiting to see if any of them besides Buehler will even be on the team because we dont know what the new draft is going to bring us. What if we dont draft another lineman and 1 injury sends us into 5 losses?

We cant even speculate on the WR's because many people want Ogletree but if Hurd stays on the team and we draft a number WR and this is just praying we were able to dump RW, than Austin is our number 1 thru TC? Anyone really feel comfortable with that? I like him as a second, i cant say for sure I really feel hes a number 1 threat.

There is so much to go on to get going forward as the fans would like but we dont even know if there is going to be coaching changes, I am sure most of us would love one, i know i would. But it may not happen, and if Garrett is kept, what are we going to say if "dare we speak it" We make the playoffs again? You know whats going to be said "This team will play good until they meet a team that puts the pressure on Garrett and Garrett will fold"

I think everyone agrees we dont trust most of our Oline men in the depth department. I think most of us would LOVE to see Free on the line somewhere, and all this is just offense worry, dare we look on the defense?

everybody has to do that every year, so...

As far as everything else goes, we have something here and everyone on the team will see that. As far as Austin goes, he is a #1 as he has been most of this year. They might as well let go of RW if they can because Crayton/Hurd/Ogletree can do better and has last 4 games. It would not hurt to see what we can get, but nothing to worry greatly over.

Our defense doesn't need too much.

Our Oline, well yeah a little work needs done there. We need to find someone to replace Flo because his hearing problems is causing too many false starts and as one of the anaysts described as slow getting off the line. Kosier is small and he sits over there with Flo so the combo does not help.

I think this year definately helps us next year.

 

[Bach]

I really didnt ask if he did, i said do you feel comfortable with him at number 1? I personally do not. I dont know why, but I dont feel he is the prototypical number 1 receiver you want spear heading your WR corp.

Austin did a great job this year, obviously better than everyone's expectations. But that said, I would like to have a true #1 WR opposite of him.

And it is interesting how two of our main weapons, Romo and Austin, were both undrafted FA's. Lord only knows what kind of shape we'd be in if we hadn't lucked into both of them. At least we do have something going our way in that dept.

 

[BrassCowboy]

I feel Wades history and how this team reacted in the Minnesota game should have been taken into account by Jerry and at least waited a week to make the decision of bringing him back.

I am about options, thats just my way of thinking and I feel the options should have been weighed a little longer on what to do about the 10 season because while the whole "team is intact and playoff material" is more about the "now" thinking, I personally would like to see another coach move in, move in his staff, and his players and start a rebuilding process for the long term instead of these "quick get the glue" decisions Jerry has been making lately that have not panned out and yet works for other teams moreso than us.

that is what we always are in is rebuilding mode because we keep a coach here long enough to build a team and then yank him just before the team can really gel.

We get a new coach in here and they will need atleast a year to just get to know each other. Keeping Wade next year will give us our best chance next year. If after next year he proves to bumble it then it hurts little.

This defense flourishes with Wade. Right now, I am a little more worried about JG than Wade, but we will see.

 

[ShiningStar]

everybody has to do that every year, so...

As far as everything else goes, we have something here and everyone on the team will see that. As far as Austin goes, he is a #1 as he has been most of this year. They might as well let go of RW if they can because Crayton/Hurd/Ogletree can do better and has last 4 games. It would not hurt to see what we can get, but nothing to worry greatly over.

Our defense doesn't need too much.

Our Oline, well yeah a little work needs done there. We need to find someone to replace Flo because his hearing problems is causing too many false starts and as one of the anaysts described as slow getting off the line. Kosier is small and he sits over there with Flo so the combo does not help.

I think this year definately helps us next year.

and what about the coaches? Frankily i could see most of them go, heck you could dump a few and fans wouldnt notice. The coaches can make a difference its not always negative.

 

[ShiningStar]

that is what we always are in is rebuilding mode because we keep a coach here long enough to build a team and then yank him just before the team can really gel.

We get a new coach in here and they will need atleast a year to just get to know each other. Keeping Wade next year will give us our best chance next year. If after next year he proves to bumble it then it hurts little.

This defense flourishes with Wade. Right now, I am a little more worried about JG than Wade, but we will see.

Im also wondering if Jerry is keeping Wade around until the coach he covets surfaces.

I would agree with the rebuilding, but how many years do we want to give wade to see if he has it?

when Wade was hired, he had to be hired on the basis, he's not playoff material. You also knew what you were getting in Wade, has a history, been around, etc etc.

What we dont know is if hes going to get over that hump, a lot of coaches just dont get over that hump.

 

[DFWJC]

I personally would like to see another coach move in, move in his staff, and his players and start a rebuilding process for the long term instead of these "quick get the glue" decisions Jerry has been making lately that have not panned out and yet works for other teams moreso than us.

I think this team is in the building mode and not the quick fix anymore. The foundation is set and they are building on it. So I guess I disagree with your general assesment of a team with the core in place and a lot of good young players moving forward. They just need to take another step or two. I felt the HC was even growing into his role as the year progressed.

 

[Doomsday101]

Im also wondering if Jerry is keeping Wade around until the coach he covets surfaces.

I would agree with the rebuilding, but how many years do we want to give wade to see if he has it?

when Wade was hired, he had to be hired on the basis, he's not playoff material. You also knew what you were getting in Wade, has a history, been around, etc etc.

What we dont know is if hes going to get over that hump, a lot of coaches just dont get over that hump.

You can go through a hell of allot of coaches firing them every 3 years if they don't win a SB. No coach in the NFL will ever live up to that.

 

[ShiningStar]

I think this team is in the building mode and not the quick fix anymore. The foundation is set and they are building on it. So I guess I disagree with your general assesment of a team with the core in place and a lot of good young players moving forward. They just need to take another step or two. I felt the HC was even growing into his role as the eyar progressed.

we'll see with the nitpicky group when Flozell costs us a bunch of penalties, or if 1 Olineman goes down and our season crashes.

if the offense can generate a "move the chains" feel instead of "trickery plays" that dont work and cost us yardage.

First we have to see what our scouting department has found out about the crop of guys coming up.

 

[ShiningStar]

You can go through a hell of allot of coaches firing them every 3 years if they don't win a SB. No coach in the NFL will ever live up to that.

we're not talking just winning the SB, we're talking taking a talented team and trying hard to miss the SB repeated times because of a few broad bad ideas.

we're also talking about what is missing from this team when you look at it the team as a whole and come up with "how did you miss the SB with that team?"

 

[Doomsday101]

we're not talking just winning the SB, we're talking taking a talented team and trying hard to miss the SB repeated times because of a few broad bad ideas.

we're also talking about what is missing from this team when you look at it the team as a whole and come up with "how did you miss the SB with that team?"

I think we have talent I think there are other teams like Minn who also have talent. Sorry I don't think we have talent that is just head and shoulders of other top teams. How in the world does the Colts only have 1 ring with the talent they have had for many years now?

I do think we will see some changes and upgrades after the staff has gone back over the season and look at areas of need in terms of players and areas where we could have done better. I think there are also many upsides this staff will be able to build off of heading into next season.

 

[ShiningStar]

I think we have talent I think there are other teams like Minn who also have talent. Sorry I don't think we have talent that is just head and shoulders of other top teams. How in the world does the Colts only have 1 ring with the talent they have had for many years now?

I do think we will see some changes and upgrades after the staff has gone back over the season and look at areas of need in terms of players and areas where we could have done better. I think there are also many upsides this staff will be able to build off of heading into next season.

Coaches, pure and simple, the Colts have had to run up against the Patriots and been shut down by better coaches because the Colts do have some talent, maybe not as much as people have thought or written about, but they have the best qb in the game right now.

I think we did have the talent this year to take it all, we already knew we could beat New Orleans, I feel we were better than the Vikings, if Flozell doesnt go down, I think we beat them handily. Their defense was stout against the run, but if Romo had a few more seconds or some time here and some time there we could have beaten them through the air.

Our problem was we were not prepared, ie coaching and we didnt adjust and Garrett was out matched by the Vikings D. I think our coaching did us in in this particular match up.