Why Tony? Why do you throw it there? And a coaches opinion on Romo

[cbartel81]

OK, in order for you to see what I am talking about follow this path to find the video:
1) go to www.nfl.com
2) go to the videos tab and click on teams
3) go to the Dallas Cowboys team videos
4) click on the video that says the final score BAL 33 DAL 24 (5:05). There is a photo of Ray Lewis in the icon.

I could not post the proper link here.

So I want to talk about Romo's 1st interception. Is is a bootleg to the right on 2nd and 3. Deion Anderson tries to get out into the flat and is manhandled. TO has a go. Roy williams has a climb route across the formation. Witten has a delayed drag across the field. As the play develops, stop the video as Romo is about to release the ball and look at Jason Witten. Give it to him! there is no reason on 2nd down to throw this ball. Set your feet put a little touch on the ball and drop it to Witten on the 40 yard line. I can understand throwing this ball if it was 3rd and long because the end result is no different that a well placed punt. But on 2nd down give it to Witten, throw it away, or get what you can on the ground. This is a prime example of seeing the field when you are on the move and making crucial decisions.
In defense of Tony Romo, I would like to say that I do not place as much blame on him for losses as some do. In my opinion, I do not really get angry at a guy like him for poor decisions. I think that a lot of people forget that Tony Romo is an undrafted free agent that grew in the system here. That is what he is. I don't get all riled up when he plays like it. There are scouts all over this league that had an opportunity to see Romo perform in college and none of them felt that his ability merited him being drafted. Four years ago he was just a guy on the team. He was a practice Quarterback. He was Clint Sternor! All of a sudden he becomes the starter, gets in the spotlight, starts dating hot singers (Underwood and Simpson), signs a huge contract without winning a playoff game and people forget what he is. No doubt he has exceeded expectations, but one has to wonder how low his celing really is. Hopefuly he figues out that he doesn't always have to win the game. Just don't give it away Tony! When you don't turn the ball over we win. It is that simple. Don't make things easier with poor decisions like you made throwing the ball up that result in big plays for the opposition.

 

[Temo]

So in summary, a QB made a bad play and missed an open guy. Thanks.

 

[percyhoward]

There is no reason on 2nd down to throw this ball.

Not that ball, or--it could be argued--any other ball. Not after a short pass to Choice got you 7 yards, and two more Choice runs totalled 11 more. Those were the three plays that preceded the INT. Two of the three deep passes in the 1st half came on 2nd-and-short, the so-called "waste down." But Garrett should know by now that Romo isn't always going to waste one.

Great to see you posting coach.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Romo played very poorly in the first three quarters. No question. However, despite his lack of pedigree and approval from NFL scouts, he's still one of the top 5 quarterbacks in the NFL and on pace to becoming the most prolific passer in Cowboy history.

Romo had 45 pass attempts against the Ravens--a ridiculous total given the quality of the opposition. How many quarterbacks in this league would be trusted to throw the ball 45 times against the Ravens defense?

The Cowboys coaches need to help Romo by providing him with a viable running game, especially during the crucial months of December and February.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

He may have made a bad choice in throwing that ball but thats what you get from Romo. He actually tends to make those plays more often than he turns them over. To me that ball was not where he wanted it to go. He is having problems with the deep ball lately. IMO its because of his back. If this ball is placed better i have full faith Roy is gonna come down with it or no one is.

 

[Quarterback Coach]

OK, in order for you to see what I am talking about follow this path to find the video:
1) go to www.nfl.com
2) go to the videos tab and click on teams
3) go to the Dallas Cowboys team videos
4) click on the video that says the final score BAL 33 DAL 24 (5:05). There is a photo of Ray Lewis in the icon.

I could not post the proper link here.

So I want to talk about Romo's 1st interception. Is is a bootleg to the right on 2nd and 3. Deion Anderson tries to get out into the flat and is manhandled. TO has a go. Roy williams has a climb route across the formation. Witten has a delayed drag across the field. As the play develops, stop the video as Romo is about to release the ball and look at Jason Witten. Give it to him! there is no reason on 2nd down to throw this ball. Set your feet put a little touch on the ball and drop it to Witten on the 40 yard line. I can understand throwing this ball if it was 3rd and long because the end result is no different that a well placed punt. But on 2nd down give it to Witten, throw it away, or get what you can on the ground. This is a prime example of seeing the field when you are on the move and making crucial decisions.
In defense of Tony Romo, I would like to say that I do not place as much blame on him for losses as some do. In my opinion, I do not really get angry at a guy like him for poor decisions. I think that a lot of people forget that Tony Romo is an undrafted free agent that grew in the system here. That is what he is. I don't get all riled up when he plays like it. There are scouts all over this league that had an opportunity to see Romo perform in college and none of them felt that his ability merited him being drafted. Four years ago he was just a guy on the team. He was a practice Quarterback. He was Clint Sternor! All of a sudden he becomes the starter, gets in the spotlight, starts dating hot singers (Underwood and Simpson), signs a huge contract without winning a playoff game and people forget what he is. No doubt he has exceeded expectations, but one has to wonder how low his celing really is. Hopefuly he figues out that he doesn't always have to win the game. Just don't give it away Tony! When you don't turn the ball over we win. It is that simple. Don't make things easier with poor decisions like you made throwing the ball up that result in big plays for the opposition.

Come on coach...it was "just like a punt..."

If I hear that statement again...I swear...

 

[hutru01]

He may have made a bad choice in throwing that ball but thats what you get from Romo. He actually tends to make those plays more often than he turns them over. To me that ball was not where he wanted it to go. He is having problems with the deep ball lately. IMO its because of his back. If this ball is placed better i have full faith Roy is gonna come down with it or no one is.

Lets not forget that he took a knee to the back against the Giants as well. (Not making excuses, but it does play a factor)

Lets face it, Romo doesn't look like he did in the beginning of the season. Although in the 4th quarter vs the Ravens, he looked as good as any quarterback in the league. (Too bad our defense apparently gave up)

 

[cbartel81]

I said if the play had taken place on 3rd and long.

 

[theogt]

When he stopped to begin his pass, Witten was not open. He was smack dab in the middle of 3 defenders. Only after Romo has already committed to his throw does Witten come open.

Would Witten have come open had he not thrown it deep? That's impossible to say. Once the underneath defenders could see Romo was committing to a deep pass, all they could do is hold their breath and hope for the best.

 

[theogt]

When he stopped to begin his pass, Witten was not open. He was smack dab in the middle of 3 defenders. Only after Romo has already committed to his throw does Witten come open.

Would Witten have come open had he not thrown it deep? That's impossible to say. Once the underneath defenders could see Romo was committing to a deep pass, all they could do is hold their breath and hope for the best.

This is what I was referring to:
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Even in this frame, Tony was already well into beginning his throwing motion. Witten was far from open.

 

[cbartel81]

Then run or throw it away. Play 3rd down and 3.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

This is what I was referring to:
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Even in this frame, Tony was already well into beginning his throwing motion. Witten was far from open.

Looks as if Romo should've thrown it away. It was only second down, and Romo's just like a punt argument is only valid on third down (and the argument is valid, despite claims to the contrary).

 

[theogt]

Then run or throw it away. Play 3rd down and 3.

Tony's problem there wasn't that he threw it to the wrong person -- or that he threw it at all. No, the problem was that he didn't get enough on the ball. And that wasn't because of poor mechanics. Something was clearly wrong with him that day, as he underthrew numerous balls. My guess is it had something to do with his back. He wasn't as strong as he thought himself to be.

You can put the blame for not knowing his boundaries on him, I guess. But I have no idea why we kept running such deep routes all game, even after that one play.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Tony's problem there wasn't that he threw it to the wrong person -- or that he threw it at all. No, the problem was that he didn't get enough on the ball. And that wasn't because of poor mechanics. Something was clearly wrong with him that day, as he underthrew numerous balls. My guess is it had something to do with his back. He wasn't as strong as he thought himself to be.

You can put the blame for not knowing his boundaries on him, I guess. But I have no idea why we kept running such deep routes all game, even after that one play.

This is the central issue, especially considering how well Choice seemed to be playing.

 

[theogt]

This is the central issue, in my opinion. Choice seemed to be playing quite well.

He did. And that was in large part because their safeties were playing literally 20-30 yards off the ball -- all game. Yet we continued to run deep routes. It's amazing how stupid our gameplan was going into that game and how pitiful our offensive adjustments were. To me, that was a signature game for Jason Garrett.

 

[jobberone]

There is no excuse for Tony throwing the ball up for grabs there. NONE. I don't care if he was having back problems. Actually if he was then it's more stupid if that is possible.

Stop with the "I can do anything" stuff. No more 'did you see that' stuff. It's time to play sound football.

 

[nalam]

Look at the frame again , If he tossed it to Deon who is just left of him he would have 2 O-L guys escorting him to a 1st down easily. One thing about tony (& JG ) is going for low percentage long sensational stuff when underlying plain options are available to extend drives. During playoff the later approach will help.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

He did. And that was in large part because their safeties were playing literally 20-30 yards off the ball -- all game. Yet we continued to run deep routes. It's amazing how stupid our gameplan was going into that game and how pitiful our offensive adjustments were. To me, that was a signature game for Jason Garrett.

I've been vacillating on this issue all week. Is the problem with Garrett not calling enough short routes? Or, is the problem with Tony being unwilling to throw shorter passes?

 

[theogt]

There is no excuse for Tony throwing the ball up for grabs there. NONE. I don't care if he was having back problems. Actually if he was then it's more stupid if that is possible.

Stop with the "I can do anything" stuff. No more 'did you see that' stuff. It's time to play sound football.

It's far from this clear cut. If he gets 5-10 more yards on that ball it's in prime position for RW11 to do his thing and make a play on the ball. Roy was behind both defenders. But where it went, he didn't have a chance.

I've been vacillating on this issue all week. Is the problem with Garrett not calling enough short routes? Or, is the problem with Tony being unwilling to throw shorter passes?

Well, we do know that deep routes were getting called consistently all game.

 

[percyhoward]

It's amazing how stupid our gameplan was going into that game and how pitiful our offensive adjustments were. To me, that was a signature game for Jason Garrett.

Every player needs coaching, even 10-year veteran QB's. Romo needs a playcaller who understands when to go deep and when to play it safe. Instead, he's got an OC who (as a former QB himself) is in awe of him.

Too much so.