Why Tony? Why do you throw it there? And a coaches opinion on Romo

I think Romo just needs to do a better job of choosing when to take a risk and when to take what is there. The 2 ints early in the game were well covered to begin with as the Ravens had coverage under and over. Heck Reed was lining up 20 yards off the ball so the Ravens were not going to allow many deep throws to begin with. I love having Romo as the starting QB he just needs to be willing to take what the defense is giving and not force the ball as much
 
theogt;2522511 said:
Actually, I don't think Deon was really intended as a passing option in that play. But I guess if you want to include every eligible receiver, whether blocking or not, as a passing option, yeah, okay.

But in any event, I laugh at people that don't read the thread thoroughly. My problem wasn't that *this* particular deep pass play was called. In fact, I said I can't argue with it at all. It's the subsequent pass plays that were called. We kept running multiple deep routes all game long. The gameplan should have focused at some point to something else, given Romo's limitations.

I didn't mean you in particular and.... I was using this play as an example but we can pick any of the subsequent pass plays to discuss if you'd like.

Do you know for certain who Romo's first read is on most given plays? I don't and I doubt any other fan does. Unless his first read is a deep ball, I can't see how anyone can blame Garrett for it. There were players open on deep, intermediate, or short routes at various times throughout the game. It's not Garrett's fault that Romo misssed seeing them or missed them with the throw. Romo had a bad game. It's really that simple.
 
Doomsday101;2522519 said:
I think Romo just needs to do a better job of choosing when to take a risk and when to take what is there. The 2 ints early in the game were well covered to begin with as the Ravens had coverage under and over. Heck Reed was lining up 20 yards off the ball so the Ravens were not going to allow many deep throws to begin with. I love having Romo as the starting QB he just needs to be willing to take what the defense is giving and not force the ball as much
I agree...and patience seems to be the one area where Romo has really regressed this year.

That said, Procter makes the entire offensive line less effective so Romo has to learn to make better decisions under duress.
 
StanleySpadowski;2522526 said:
I didn't mean you in particular and.... I was using this play as an example but we can pick any of the subsequent pass plays to discuss if you'd like.

Do you know for certain who Romo's first read is on most given plays? I don't and I doubt any other fan does. Unless his first read is a deep ball, I can't see how anyone can blame Garrett for it. There were players open on deep, intermediate, or short routes at various times throughout the game. It's not Garrett's fault that Romo misssed seeing them or missed them with the throw. Romo had a bad game. It's really that simple.

I agree. On most pass plays there is more than 1 option and if the deep rout is covered you need to check down to the routs underneath. With the exception of quick slants and screens most all other passing plays contain more than 1 read
 
StanleySpadowski;2522526 said:
I didn't mean you in particular and.... I was using this play as an example but we can pick any of the subsequent pass plays to discuss if you'd like.

Do you know for certain who Romo's first read is on most given plays? I don't and I doubt any other fan does. Unless his first read is a deep ball, I can't see how anyone can blame Garrett for it. There were players open on deep, intermediate, or short routes at various times throughout the game. It's not Garrett's fault that Romo misssed seeing them or missed them with the throw. Romo had a bad game. It's really that simple.
Maybe you're willing to believe that Romo is ignoring his reads and going for other players, but I'm not so certain.

How many screens did we run in that game? What percentage of plays was Baltimore blitzing? Yet we kept calling, and passing, deep routes all game.

I put blame on both Garrett and Romo. Romo may be going "rogue" on Garrett, but I doubt it.
 
kramskoi;2522528 said:
I agree...and patience seems to be the one area where Romo has really regressed this year.

That said, Procter makes the entire offensive line less effective so Romo has to learn to make better decisions under duress.

I agree sometimes the best play is throwing it away and coming back on the next play. I know in the Ravens game the announcers talked a few times about how Reed was lining up deep that should have told Romo to look to the shorter routes. When the Safety starts moving up towards the line then you look to strike deep.
 
Phil Simms said something the other day that struck a chord with me...He said, "One thing I've learned over the years is don't judge a player too harshly when he's playing injured. That is not the true player you are used to watching." He said he has made that mistake many times as an announcer and he made it last year about Troy P.

I know that doesn't excuse Tony's cavalier attitude with the football but I do believe he's playing injured the last half of this season.
 
theogt;2522531 said:
Maybe you're willing to believe that Romo is ignoring his reads and going for other players, but I'm not so certain.

How many screens did we run in that game? What percentage of plays was Baltimore blitzing? Yet we kept calling, and passing, deep routes all game.

I put blame on both Garrett and Romo. Romo may be going "rogue" on Garrett, but I doubt it.

I never even implied that I thought Romo was ignoring his reads and it's definitely not Romo going "rogue". There are mulitiple level options on almost every play and Romo is the one making the progressions, not Garrett.

As I said, I think Romo made a few incorrect reads but a majority of his poor plays were the result of not physically executing them properly. Again, something that Garrett has very little control over unless you'd rather have seen Johnson or Bollinger taking snaps.
 
StanleySpadowski;2522569 said:
I never even implied that I thought Romo was ignoring his reads and it's definitely not Romo going "rogue". There are mulitiple level options on almost every play and Romo is the one making the progressions, not Garrett.

As I said, I think Romo made a few incorrect reads but a majority of his poor plays were the result of not physically executing them properly. Again, something that Garrett has very little control over unless you'd rather have seen Johnson or Bollinger taking snaps.
Garrett has plenty of control over whether intermediate routes are called, how the progression of reads is made, and he has total control over whether we call some screens and other plays to slow down their blitz.

When Garrett calls plays with the only receivers on the field running deep routes, I don't see how you can absolve him of blame. The problem is that it's either 50 yard bomb or dump off on too many of his plays.

It's interesting that Ray Lewis claimed we were too simplistic, and then they ran two deep safeties 20-30 yards off the ball all game.
 
StanleySpadowski;2522569 said:
As I said, I think Romo made a few incorrect reads but a majority of his poor plays were the result of not physically executing them properly. Again, something that Garrett has very little control over unless you'd rather have seen Johnson or Bollinger taking snaps.
If Garrett has the authority to change QB's, shouldn't he be able to call a run play?
 
percyhoward;2522689 said:
If Garrett has the authority to change QB's, shouldn't he be able to call a run play?
That's a good point. The safeties were playing extremely deep that drive. And we were running all over them. Why that play was called at all is just strange.
 

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