WHY we need to see Romo

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Avenging Hayseed said:
.....Ive pretty much been saying that from the start.....

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Here goes......I truly believe we should start Romo after the bye week.....Its time to see what we have in Romo. .. We cant go on riding the tiger like were doing. ....I believe the transition SHOULD be made during the bye week. Nothing in this world thats good is easy, eventually you have to be willing to jump in head first. Time to JUMP!
 

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Avenging Hayseed said:
...I too believe Parcells can WIN with Bledsoe. I just dont believe he can win a Superbowl with Bledsoe with the current team we have. THAT is my main concern. Gotta run. Check backlater. Should be fun! No hard feelings just good debate....

Sorry, that's not what you've been saying this whole thread. you may have started out that way (??) but you said on Page 3
I DONT BELIEVE HE IS A SUPER BOWL WINNING QB.
That sounds like you think he can't get it done no matter who's on the team, that he can't even be a "bus driver."
 

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peplaw06 said:
Sorry, that's not what you've been saying this whole thread. you may have started out that way (??) but you said on Page 3 That sounds like you think he can't get it done no matter who's on the team, that he can't even be a "bus driver."


The thread did not even start off as he is trying to portray now. It is pretty clear he wants Bledsoe removed and Romo starting after the bye week. His own quote “I truly believe we should start Romo after the bye week”
 

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..............We can beat the Commanders 50 to nothing and it STILL wont change my opinion. AT ALL. Its NOT that I dont think Bledsoe is a decent QB, I DO. Its just that I DONT BELIEVE HE IS A SUPER BOWL WINNING QB. The objective is always the same, to get to, and WIN a superbowl. Drew has a track record that points to him being highly unlikely of achieving THAT objective. A 14 year track record. THAT is why I am for making the switch...


How many years did it take John Elway to win a superbowl?
 

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Listen, I dont know how to make this any clearer for you. I believe Bledsoe can win some games for a team, I believe Bledsoe can have a winning record, get you to the playoffs, "if everything around him is right". What I dont believe is that Bledsoe can win a superbowl with this team, not impossible but pretty tuff. EVERY scrap of evidence supports MY case, NOT yours. His 14 year career backs up MY case, NOT yours, people in the know who discuss this stuff on tv back up MY CASE not yours concerning Drew Bledsoe. You dont wanna except it...Fine. But make no mistake. The evidence at hand DOES back up what I believe to be true.....Not my fault if you cant handle the truth
 

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I don't see Parcells benching Bledsoe for a rookie unless he truly believed that Romo would do better than him NOW. This could be Parcells last year and would want to go out with atleast 10 wins.
 

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Avenging Hayseed said:
Listen, I dont know how to make this any clearer for you. I believe Bledsoe can win some games for a team, I believe Bledsoe can have a winning record, get you to the playoffs, "if everything around him is right". What I dont believe is that Bledsoe can win a superbowl with this team, not impossible but pretty tuff. EVERY scrap of evidence supports MY case, NOT yours. His 14 year career backs up MY case, NOT yours, people in the know who discuss this stuff on tv back up MY CASE not yours concerning Drew Bledsoe. You dont wanna except it...Fine. But make no mistake. The evidence at hand DOES back up what I believe to be true.....Not my fault if you cant handle the truth

Here is the problem I have with this post... you cant use historical facts to determine the result of something that hasnt happened yet....
 

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Avenging Hayseed said:
Listen, I dont know how to make this any clearer for you. I believe Bledsoe can win some games for a team, I believe Bledsoe can have a winning record, get you to the playoffs, "if everything around him is right". What I dont believe is that Bledsoe can win a superbowl with this team, not impossible but pretty tuff. EVERY scrap of evidence supports MY case, NOT yours. His 14 year career backs up MY case, NOT yours, people in the know who discuss this stuff on tv back up MY CASE not yours concerning Drew Bledsoe. You dont wanna except it...Fine. But make no mistake. The evidence at hand DOES back up what I believe to be true.....Not my fault if you cant handle the truth

AS long as evidence is what you are relying on .......

The thing you conveniently fail to recognize is that there is a hell of a lot more evidence to suggest Bledsoe can win than Romo.

But I'm sure in that case you don't think evidence matters.

But, for the time being let's stick with what you did say. By your own admission we can have a winning record and get to the playoffs with Bledsoe ....... on the other hand we have no idea if we can do the same with Romo. Are we willing to take a chance on throwing away a winning record and the playoffs on a gamble?

The obvious, logical answer is that if Bledsoe continues to struggle we should make a move, but if he plays well this week then your idea of starting Romo after the break makes no sense.

But for some, obvious, logical answers don't appear to work - even for those who claim to be concerned with evidence.
 

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Avenging Hayseed said:
Listen, I dont know how to make this any clearer for you. I believe Bledsoe can win some games for a team, I believe Bledsoe can have a winning record, get you to the playoffs, "if everything around him is right". What I dont believe is that Bledsoe can win a superbowl with this team, not impossible but pretty tuff. EVERY scrap of evidence supports MY case, NOT yours. His 14 year career backs up MY case, NOT yours, people in the know who discuss this stuff on tv back up MY CASE not yours concerning Drew Bledsoe. You dont wanna except it...Fine. But make no mistake. The evidence at hand DOES back up what I believe to be true.....Not my fault if you cant handle the truth

You have no evidence that will tell you 100% what's going to happen in the future. You have trends you see that make you believe that he can't win a Super Bowl with this team, but that's just your opinion.

Even if you do believe that, do you believe that Romo can win the Super Bowl with this team?? I haven't seen you making that case, so I'll assume you don't. I hate to break it to you, but the goal this season is to win the Super Bowl. It's the same goal every season, but it's more realistic this year than it has been in a while. So if you want to give up on the season after one game, you go right ahead and do that. But I (and most fans) am not ready to give up on the season after one game, and BP isn't either.

There's not "truth" one way or the other yet. It's just your hunch. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but you are being knee-jerk. You ARE giving up on the season after one game, and that's the epitome of knee-jerk.

Before the games on Sunday started, the Cowboys Huddle was on with Babe Laufenberg, and he had BP on there. He asked BP why the first week was important... and BP said that "after the first week, there are 16 teams who wonder if they'll ever win a game." And the fans of those 16 teams think the same thing, that it'll never happen. If those teams just gave up like you're doing, this would be a single elimination tournament and would last 4 games. There would also be a lot of Super Bowl winners who would have never made it. If you can't see that that's what you're doing, then I can't help you. But I hope you don't mind if I don't give up yet.
 

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baj1dallas said:
So Trent Dilfer can win a Superbowl, but Drew Bledsoe can't?

Sorry, I'm not buying it.

Also Dilfer didn´t lose games, Bledsoe does.
 

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You have no evidence that will tell you 100% what's going to happen in the future. You have trends you see that make you believe that he can't win a Super Bowl with this team, but that's just your opinion.

Even if you do believe that, do you believe that Romo can win the Super Bowl with this team?? I haven't seen you making that case, so I'll assume you don't. I hate to break it to you, but the goal this season is to win the Super Bowl. It's the same goal every season, but it's more realistic this year than it has been in a while. So if you want to give up on the season after one game, you go right ahead and do that. But I (and most fans) am not ready to give up on the season after one game, and BP isn't either.

There's not "truth" one way or the other yet. It's just your hunch. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but you are being knee-jerk. You ARE giving up on the season after one game, and that's the epitome of knee-jerk.

Before the games on Sunday started, the Cowboys Huddle was on with Babe Laufenberg, and he had BP on there. He asked BP why the first week was important... and BP said that "after the first week, there are 16 teams who wonder if they'll ever win a game." And the fans of those 16 teams think the same thing, that it'll never happen. If those teams just gave up like you're doing, this would be a single elimination tournament and would last 4 games. There would also be a lot of Super Bowl winners who would have never made it. If you can't see that that's what you're doing, then I can't help you. But I hope you don't mind if I don't give up yet.
Im not giving up on the season at all. What Romo can do with the starting unit is YET to be proven. Wont know till he's inserted. Something tells me im going to have an interesting time reading the boards in the not so distant future. ;) Although im NOT an "I told you so" kinda poster. I just wanna win. Time will tell, and tell ya what, if time is on anyone 's side in this thing its on Romo's.
 

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Avenging Hayseed said:
Im not giving up on the season at all. What Romo can do with the starting unit is YET to be proven. Wont know till he's inserted. Something tells me im going to have an interesting time reading the boards in the not so distant future. ;) Although im NOT an "I told you so" kinda poster. I just wanna win. Time will tell, and tell ya what, if time is on anyone 's side in this thing its on Romo's.

You are right - what Romo can do for us is yet to be proven. He could succeed or fail. If we do as you suggest and he fails, then the season is lost - which means that you ARE willing to give up on the season in order to test the waters with Romo.

On the other hand, we know we can win with Bledsoe - we did it last year and should have at least as good or better chance this year. Winning the Super Bowl may be another thing entirely, but by your own admission we can have a winning record and go to the playoffs with Bledsoe. So your plan proves that you are willing to risk giving up on a winning record and the playoffs to test the waters with Romo.

The ONLY logical thing is to play it out for another week or two - if Bledsoe continues to play poorly then we have nothing to lose by putting in Romo, but if he plays well and wins games then it would be absolutely riduculous to make a change and risk missing out on a winning record and the playoffs.
 

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You are right - what Romo can do for us is yet to be proven. He could succeed or fail. If we do as you suggest and he fails, then the season is lost - which means that you ARE willing to give up on the season in order to test the waters with Romo.

On the other hand, we know we can win with Bledsoe - we did it last year and should have at least as good or better chance this year. Winning the Super Bowl may be another thing entirely, but by your own admission we can have a winning record and go to the playoffs with Bledsoe. So your plan proves that you are willing to risk giving up on a winning record and the playoffs to test the waters with Romo.

The ONLY logical thing is to play it out for another week or two - if Bledsoe continues to play poorly then we have nothing to lose by putting in Romo, but if he plays well and wins games then it would be absolutely riduculous to make a change and risk missing out on a winning record and the playoffs.

I agree. For me I like Romo and hope he gets a chance but this is not the time to take such a risk. Later in the season if things are going bad then I would have no issue with giving Romo an oppertunity but at this stage I think a move like this would do more harm than good for the overall team. Once you make a move like that there would be no turning back
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I agree. For me I like Romo and hope he gets a chance but this is not the time to take such a risk. Later in the season if things are going bad then I would have no issue with giving Romo an oppertunity but at this stage I think a move like this would do more harm than good for the overall team. Once you make a move like that there would be no turning back

I don't even have any problems turning things over to Romo fairly early in the year if Bledsoe is showing a pattern of poor or even average play and the offense is struggling, but clearly one week into the season is much too early. If Bledsoe plays poorly again Sunday i will warm up to the idea much more, and if he plays poorly in 3 straight games, or even 3 out of 4, then I would support a move.
 

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Avenging Hayseed said:
I said after the bye week. HEY, At least I didnt say for the Washington game!

If you had said "after the bye week IF Bledsoe has another bad game this week" then that would have been more reasonable.

Suggesting we change after the bye week regardless doesn't make sense.
 

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Stautner said:
Suggesting we change after the bye week regardless doesn't make sense.

Unless Drew throws 3 picks against BYE too.. then there'd be cause for drastic measures. ;)
 
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