Why we should Pick a GOOD QB at #4

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CBS has the following QB ratings from first to 8th with comparisons. After the first two the rest will only be average at best and only backups in the NFL. In other words after the Cowboys pass on the first two at number 4 pick the future of Dallas is written on the wall. There will not be a future for Dallas winning SBs for a long time. Does not matter who we pick after that in the draft

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5

*Jared Goff

QB

1

California

Jr

6-4

215

1

7

Carson Wentz

QB

2

North Dakota State

Sr

6-5

237

1

33

*Paxton Lynch

QB

3

Memphis

rJr

6-7

244

1-2

39

Connor Cook

QB

4

Michigan State

rSr

6-4

217

1-2

71

*Christian Hackenberg

QB

5

Penn State

Jr

6-4

223

2-3

106

*Cardale Jones

QB

6

Ohio State

rJr

6-5

253

3-4

140

Dak Prescott

QB

7

Mississippi State

rSr

6-2

226

4-5

165

Jacoby Brissett

QB

8

NC State

rSr

6-4

231

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Warts

Goff - Goff is a good athlete for the position but isn't a true scrambling threat and his accuracy drops when attempting to throw on the run. Dykes' offense rarely calls for traditional deep balls down the sideline, although Gray has shown improvement in his downfield touch throughout the 2015 season.

COMPARES TO: Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons -- Tall, smart passers without an elite arm, both have the mental processor and pocket mechanics to be consistently deliver downfield.

Wentz - Although his internal clock needs maturing, Wentz performs well within structure, but can also improvise when the play breaks down, stretching out his legs to pick up chunk yardage if it's there (949 career rushing yards). He possesses a NFL-style skill-set with his size, athleticism and arm talent, including the field vision to work through reads and make sound decisions.

NFL Comparison: Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs -- Wentz is a physically enhanced version of Smith with his taller stature and stronger arm, but both have similar athleticism to move the pocket and the intelligence on and off the field desired for the position.

Lynch - Inconsistent base, doesn't always throw with a balanced foundation, which affects his downfield accuracy. Must sharpen footwork. Relies on arm talent over fundamentals. Requires maintenance with his throwing technique, which was not emphasized by his coaches.

NFL Comparison: None

My Take: His foot work is terrible and looks like injuries to knees will be a problem in NFL. Dallas should NOT pick him.

Cook - Once moved from his original spot, he attempts to "arm" everything and abandon his base footwork, often content making throws with his weight falling away from his target. Cook isn't fully comfortable with a muddy pocket, which forces his eye level to wander and confuses his internal clock. Some thinking it might be tough for him to acclimate himself in a NFL locker room. NFL teams will be doing a lot of background work on Cook to answer the questions they have, including why he wasn't voted a team captain.

NFL Comparison: None

My Take: Not a leader - Dallas should pass on him, does not do well in a Romo type offense.

Hackenberg - Nonexistent feel or awareness in the pocket, struggling to navigate himself around the noise. Slow to process and late reading coverages due to questionable vision. Immature eye use, staring down targets and predetermining throws, which leads to inexplicable decisions.

COMPARES TO: Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears -- Players with power arms and well-built frames, Hackenberg and Cutler have similar strengths, but also similar question marks as inconsistent ball placement and pocket awareness can limit their pro ceilings.

My Take: Not a leader - Dallas should pass on him, does not do well in a Romo type offense. He can openly be a backup and NO SB with him.

Jones - He needs refinement with his footwork, internal clock and overall accuracy to all levels of the field. Maturity has been another trouble issue with Jones and his class clown routine won't be tolerated by many NFL head coaches.

COMPARES TO: JaMarcus Russell, ex-Raiders -- Jones is physically impressive with the size, build and arm strength that instantly draws comparisons to Russell, including the mobility to pick up yards with his legs when needed. He can make every throw and showcases precision when he squares his shoulders and follows through with his delivery, but his game lacks sophistication and he's simply extremely raw.

My Take: Not a leader - Dallas should pass on him, another JaMarcus Russell

Prescott - Tends to predetermine some throws and relies on a lot of back shoulder patterns, something that got him in trouble against Auburn and Alabama. Has not shown the consistency to lead his team through the air in tough road environments when the ground game is shut down

COMPARES TO: Tim Tebow, ex-Broncos, Jets, Patriots - It is the natural comparison, beyond just the connection to Mississippi State head coach Dan Mullen, who was Florida's offensive coordinator when Tebow was in Gainesville. Although Prescott has a slightly better arm and more consistent mechanics, he and Tebow grade similar in several categories, including composure, mobility, power and leadership.

My Take: Not a leader - Dallas should pass on him, another Tim Tebow



My Analysis – After the first two QBs the rest are BURST. If we cannot get the first two top QBs, we are screwed at QB until maybe next year or never!!
 

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Na , I don't think that's the best option. Jerry and everyone is all in on Romo. If you bring in a #4 pick qb, you know how much division that would cause. Romo starts off like he did against the niners that one year or has a couple bad picks in a game. All the fans will be crying for #4, then the lockerroom, etc, it be a mess. Best player available that can help team now! Only way #4qb gets in too help team is if something bad happened, and i'd rather the #4 be in helping romo by off or def. QB later rounds or next year.
 

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Rather wait until the 6th and see who falls. the last thing we need is more people thinking this team can win without position upgrades across the board.


Because RIGHT NOW, Dallas is a disaster waiting for any Rookie QB. Last year proved that, beyond a shadow of a doubt.
 

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Cardell Jones being compared to JaMarcus Russell is not a ringing endorsement.
 

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CBS has the following QB ratings from first to 8th with comparisons. After the first two the rest will only be average at best and only backups in the NFL. In other words after the Cowboys pass on the first two at number 4 pick the future of Dallas is written on the wall. There will not be a future for Dallas winning SBs for a long time. Does not matter who we pick after that in the draft

Read and enjoy:

5

*Jared Goff

QB

1

California

Jr

6-4

215

1

7

Carson Wentz

QB

2

North Dakota State

Sr

6-5

237

1

33

*Paxton Lynch

QB

3

Memphis

rJr

6-7

244

1-2

39

Connor Cook

QB

4

Michigan State

rSr

6-4

217

1-2

71

*Christian Hackenberg

QB

5

Penn State

Jr

6-4

223

2-3

106

*Cardale Jones

QB

6

Ohio State

rJr

6-5

253

3-4

140

Dak Prescott

QB

7

Mississippi State

rSr

6-2

226

4-5

165

Jacoby Brissett

QB

8

NC State

rSr

6-4

231

5



Warts

Goff - Goff is a good athlete for the position but isn't a true scrambling threat and his accuracy drops when attempting to throw on the run. Dykes' offense rarely calls for traditional deep balls down the sideline, although Gray has shown improvement in his downfield touch throughout the 2015 season.

COMPARES TO: Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons -- Tall, smart passers without an elite arm, both have the mental processor and pocket mechanics to be consistently deliver downfield.

Wentz - Although his internal clock needs maturing, Wentz performs well within structure, but can also improvise when the play breaks down, stretching out his legs to pick up chunk yardage if it's there (949 career rushing yards). He possesses a NFL-style skill-set with his size, athleticism and arm talent, including the field vision to work through reads and make sound decisions.

NFL Comparison: Alex Smith, Kansas City Chiefs -- Wentz is a physically enhanced version of Smith with his taller stature and stronger arm, but both have similar athleticism to move the pocket and the intelligence on and off the field desired for the position.

Lynch - Inconsistent base, doesn't always throw with a balanced foundation, which affects his downfield accuracy. Must sharpen footwork. Relies on arm talent over fundamentals. Requires maintenance with his throwing technique, which was not emphasized by his coaches.

NFL Comparison: None

My Take: His foot work is terrible and looks like injuries to knees will be a problem in NFL. Dallas should NOT pick him.

Cook - Once moved from his original spot, he attempts to "arm" everything and abandon his base footwork, often content making throws with his weight falling away from his target. Cook isn't fully comfortable with a muddy pocket, which forces his eye level to wander and confuses his internal clock. Some thinking it might be tough for him to acclimate himself in a NFL locker room. NFL teams will be doing a lot of background work on Cook to answer the questions they have, including why he wasn't voted a team captain.

NFL Comparison: None

My Take: Not a leader - Dallas should pass on him, does not do well in a Romo type offense.

Hackenberg - Nonexistent feel or awareness in the pocket, struggling to navigate himself around the noise. Slow to process and late reading coverages due to questionable vision. Immature eye use, staring down targets and predetermining throws, which leads to inexplicable decisions.

COMPARES TO: Jay Cutler, Chicago Bears -- Players with power arms and well-built frames, Hackenberg and Cutler have similar strengths, but also similar question marks as inconsistent ball placement and pocket awareness can limit their pro ceilings.

My Take: Not a leader - Dallas should pass on him, does not do well in a Romo type offense. He can openly be a backup and NO SB with him.

Jones - He needs refinement with his footwork, internal clock and overall accuracy to all levels of the field. Maturity has been another trouble issue with Jones and his class clown routine won't be tolerated by many NFL head coaches.

COMPARES TO: JaMarcus Russell, ex-Raiders -- Jones is physically impressive with the size, build and arm strength that instantly draws comparisons to Russell, including the mobility to pick up yards with his legs when needed. He can make every throw and showcases precision when he squares his shoulders and follows through with his delivery, but his game lacks sophistication and he's simply extremely raw.

My Take: Not a leader - Dallas should pass on him, another JaMarcus Russell

Prescott - Tends to predetermine some throws and relies on a lot of back shoulder patterns, something that got him in trouble against Auburn and Alabama. Has not shown the consistency to lead his team through the air in tough road environments when the ground game is shut down

COMPARES TO: Tim Tebow, ex-Broncos, Jets, Patriots - It is the natural comparison, beyond just the connection to Mississippi State head coach Dan Mullen, who was Florida's offensive coordinator when Tebow was in Gainesville. Although Prescott has a slightly better arm and more consistent mechanics, he and Tebow grade similar in several categories, including composure, mobility, power and leadership.

My Take: Not a leader - Dallas should pass on him, another Tim Tebow



My Analysis – After the first two QBs the rest are BURST. If we cannot get the first two top QBs, we are screwed at QB until maybe next year or never!!


I hope Romo is reading this right now SDHL. Is Wenzter or Goff the savior make up your mind please. Lets be decisive
Do we morgage the future and trade up only way you get Wentz or take Gloff at 4 ? I get lazy with spell check at times.
 

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Na , I don't think that's the best option. Jerry and everyone is all in on Romo. If you bring in a #4 pick qb, you know how much division that would cause. Romo starts off like he did against the niners that one year or has a couple bad picks in a game. All the fans will be crying for #4, then the lockerroom, etc, it be a mess. Best player available that can help team now! Only way #4qb gets in too help team is if something bad happened, and i'd rather the #4 be in helping romo by off or def. QB later rounds or next year.

I like Wilfred smart guy.
 

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Na , I don't think that's the best option. Jerry and everyone is all in on Romo. If you bring in a #4 pick qb, you know how much division that would cause. Romo starts off like he did against the niners that one year or has a couple bad picks in a game. All the fans will be crying for #4, then the lockerroom, etc, it be a mess. Best player available that can help team now! Only way #4qb gets in too help team is if something bad happened, and i'd rather the #4 be in helping romo by off or def. QB later rounds or next year.

If you don't want a QB, I can understand, but don't waste a pick on one in the late rounds either . It will be a wasted pick. This drafting a QB late and developing him ideal doesn't work. There has to be talent to start with and just wait until they have to draft one. We will be screwed for 20 years, but at least it didn't hurt Romo's feelings and caused no division.
 

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If you don't want a QB, I can understand, but don't waste a pick on one in the late rounds either . It will be a wasted pick. This drafting a QB late and developing him ideal doesn't work. There has to be talent to start with and just wait until they have to draft one. We will be screwed for 20 years, but at least it didn't hurt Romo's feelings and caused no division.


Not IMO. You guys will find your savior in first round three years from now. He will hold a clip board for two years and watch Romo win a SB. Then Romo walk off into sunset. Unfortunately said savior is a disappointment but he is not nearly as bad as Wentz or Goff. You heard it here first.
 

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Not IMO. You guys will find your savior in first round three years from now. He will hold a clip board for two years and watch Romo win a SB. Then Romo walk off into sunset. Unfortunately said savior is a disappointment but he is not nearly as bad as Wentz or Goff. You heard it here first.

And .. Wentz/Goff have been #1 & #2 for, three years running.
 

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Not IMO. You guys will find your savior in first round three years from now. He will hold a clip board for two years and watch Romo win a SB. Then Romo walk off into sunset. Unfortunately said savior is a disappointment but he is not nearly as bad as Wentz or Goff. You heard it here first.


While said savior struggles many lament wishing Romo had played til he was 45.
 

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They're probably going to draft Paxton Lynch.


Wentz goes to Browns the graveyard for QBs not really his fault he ends up being so bad really after all it is the Browns. Rams trade up with us to 4 take Goff becomes a decent backup for another team after several years. Lynch falls to Broncos at 31. He is out of the league in 4 years.
 

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Yea, I am thinking the same thing.........brand new account...........somebody got bored and wanted to have some fun trolling for a while.

I highly doubt these are serious posts.

Nah what really happened was Manziel and I got together had too much to drink I tried to tell him faking a fight with his girl friend was a bad idea just to get out of Cleveland but he says was publicist idea he promises to get a new publicist and clean up his act. I'm sobering up now. Relax guys just poor attempt at humor. I'm serious Romo not falling apart got 5 good years left. Still believe he could play til 45 if he wanted to.
 

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Rather wait until the 6th and see who falls. the last thing we need is more people thinking this team can win without position upgrades across the board.


Because RIGHT NOW, Dallas is a disaster waiting for any Rookie QB. Last year proved that, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

LOL.

That QB you pick in the 6th will never, ever see the field.
 

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Rather wait until the 6th and see who falls. the last thing we need is more people thinking this team can win without position upgrades across the board.


Because RIGHT NOW, Dallas is a disaster waiting for any Rookie QB. Last year proved that, beyond a shadow of a doubt.

No, "the last thing we need" are people expecting rookie draft picks to immediately turn things around for this team.

They acquired three 1st round talents last year, and not a one of them made a difference in the team finishing 4-12.

Refute that.
 
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