Why we should Pick a GOOD QB at #4

casmith07

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Wentz goes to Browns the graveyard for QBs not really his fault he ends up being so bad really after all it is the Browns. Rams trade up with us to 4 take Goff becomes a decent backup for another team after several years. Lynch falls to Broncos at 31. He is out of the league in 4 years.

I think we like Ramsey, then Lynch moreso than Wentz.

1. TEN: Tunsil
2. CLE: Wentz
3. SAN: Ramsey
4. DAL: ????

In this scenario, if the 49ers covet Goff, I swap with them and select Lynch at #7 if that's how the board is for Dallas.

Selecting Lynch ahead of other QB needy teams essentially pushes the next good prospect down to the Rams and other teams as Connor Cook or Christian Hackenberg. There could be a panic/run on mediocre quarterbacks at that point, pushing better options to us at #34.

The selection of Lynch earlier than some could have a strategic advantage.
 

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Wentz - Although his internal clock needs maturing, Wentz performs well within structure, but can also improvise when the play breaks down, stretching out his legs to pick up chunk yardage if it's there (949 career rushing yards). He possesses a NFL-style skill-set with his size, athleticism and arm talent, including the field vision to work through reads and make sound decisions.

Just a special player.
 

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CBS has the following QB ratings from first to 8th with comparisons. After the first two the rest will only be average at best and only backups in the NFL. In other words after the Cowboys pass on the first two at number 4 pick the future of Dallas is written on the wall. There will not be a future for Dallas winning SBs for a long time. Does not matter who we pick after that in the draft.

I still do not understand why Dallas not drafting a QB in the first round this year means that "there will not be a future for Dallas winning SBs for a long time." We have absolutely no idea about Dallas' future. Romo could prove fragile and break this year, leading to us again drafting in position to take a QB early in the first round. Romo could prove to be iron man and last another three to four years. Or the team could collapse his final year, leading to us taking his replacement.

For that matter, one of these only average at best guys could prove to be the next Tom Brady or Russell Wilson and we won't have to draft Romo's replacement when his time is up.

I just don't understand the now or never mentality.
 

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I still do not understand why Dallas not drafting a QB in the first round this year means that "there will not be a future for Dallas winning SBs for a long time." We have absolutely no idea about Dallas' future. Romo could prove fragile and break this year, leading to us again drafting in position to take a QB early in the first round. Romo could prove to be iron man and last another three to four years. Or the team could collapse his final year, leading to us taking his replacement.

For that matter, one of these only average at best guys could prove to be the next Tom Brady or Russell Wilson and we won't have to draft Romo's replacement when his time is up.

I just don't understand the now or never mentality.

There has been plenty of proof in the history of the Cowboys. OK, does history repeat itself? How much time transpired between Aikman and Romo? Do special QB appear in every draft? When will be the next time we are at #4? How many times has the fourth, Fifth, and sixth round QB been successful?

Now you should ask yourself when will the next Brady, Wilson, or Romo show up and be a Cowboy? The odds are against us for some time according to history, so I believe the next Dallas QB is in this draft and is NOT average and not in the middle or lower rounds.

I hope this helps!
 

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There has been plenty of proof in the history of the Cowboys. OK, does history repeat itself? How much time transpired between Aikman and Romo? Do special QB appear in every draft? When will be the next time we are at #4? How many times has the fourth, Fifth, and sixth round QB been successful?

Now you should ask yourself when will the next Brady, Wilson, or Romo show up and be a Cowboy? The odds are against us for some time according to history, so I believe the next Dallas QB is in this draft and is NOT average and not in the middle or lower rounds.

I hope this helps!

I don't believe what Dallas did in a draft almost 20 years ago means anything concerning what the team will do at the position today. There seems to be a great deal of panic based on our long-ago failure to replace Aikman.

As far as "special QB" go, who is the special QB in this draft? None of the ones available were considered special up to this point.

Who knows when we'll be at No. 4 again? Might be next year or the year after or never. That doesn't mean we can't get a QB to replace Romo, and it doesn't mean if we don't take one in the first round this year that we can't find one after that round who can do it.

Research I did showed that quarterbacks taken in the 30s actually have a higher success rate than QBs taken in the top five. Only a little over 50 percent of the QBs taken in the top five the past 10 years have succeeded. (About 60 percent of those taken in the 30s have.)
 

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LOL.

That QB you pick in the 6th will never, ever see the field.

Attention to depth of QB class says the 2nd and 3rd tier could hold some bus keys. Selecting a QB @#4 and hoping he doesn't have to play for three seasons? The writing is on the wall.
 

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I don't believe what Dallas did in a draft almost 20 years ago means anything concerning what the team will do at the position today. There seems to be a great deal of panic based on our long-ago failure to replace Aikman.

As far as "special QB" go, who is the special QB in this draft? None of the ones available were considered special up to this point.

Who knows when we'll be at No. 4 again? Might be next year or the year after or never. That doesn't mean we can't get a QB to replace Romo, and it doesn't mean if we don't take one in the first round this year that we can't find one after that round who can do it.

Research I did showed that quarterbacks taken in the 30s actually have a higher success rate than QBs taken in the top five. Only a little over 50 percent of the QBs taken in the top five the past 10 years have succeeded. (About 60 percent of those taken in the 30s have.)

OK, lets mark this post and hope that the Cowboys pick THE QB in the 5th round (since by your logic the Cowboys of today will not repeat history). This QB will see action this year because Romo WILL get injured sometime this year (my guest is after game 4) and see if he is a Deer in the headlight or the next coming of Romo. My prediction is he will fold like a cheap deck of cards.
 

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OK, lets mark this post and hope that the Cowboys pick THE QB in the 5th round (since by your logic the Cowboys of today will not repeat history). This QB will see action this year because Romo WILL get injured sometime this year (my guest is after game 4) and see if he is a Deer in the headlight or the next coming of Romo. My prediction is he will fold like a cheap deck of cards.


You mean fold like former 1st round pick Brandon Weeden and ex-NFL starter Matt Cassel, rookies always have the advantage over vets especially at the QB position.
 

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OK, lets mark this post and hope that the Cowboys pick THE QB in the 5th round (since by your logic the Cowboys of today will not repeat history). This QB will see action this year because Romo WILL get injured sometime this year (my guest is after game 4) and see if he is a Deer in the headlight or the next coming of Romo. My prediction is he will fold like a cheap deck of cards.

I agree that when Romo's career is done, Dallas will not repeat the mistake it made after Aikman in believing it could find a replacement on the cheap.

I also agree that there is nothing wrong with Dallas selecting a QB after the first round this year since Romo's career is not done (although I'm not opposed to Dallas taking one in the first.)

I think it's silly to expect any rookie QB to step in if Romo gets hurt and not fold like a cheap deck of cards.

I'm for drafting a QB at some point in this draft and hoping that player develops into Romo's replacement. I'm also for not relying on that development and drafting a QB to replace Romo when the time comes ... unless the QB drafted this year has proven he is the replacement (and that even includes a first-rounder since it would be foolish three years from now for Dallas to be counting on a Joey Harrington or JaMarcus Russell to become a worthy starter).

You seem to be an extremist that it is either first-round QB or bust this year when there are all kind of levels between those two positions. Is a QB drafted in the third or fourth round likely to be able to step in for Romo this year and have great success? No, but neither is one of these first-round QBs.
 
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