Why Zach Martin was the best pick for our defense

[Irvin88_4life]

thats all well and good, but we have a need at safety and one of the two players could have solidified that position that has been plaquing us for years. OKay fine, that aside, does Martin help where Dallas was hurt on offense? To me, no, our offensive game plan held us back more than the offensive players did. I think Callahan had that line working well enough. It was Garrett who should have looked at the detriot and GB games and said "never again" and when you are staring at two good safeties, or a player whos solid, dont get me wrong, but that wasnt the biggest need at that position wiht that scenario. Im sorry, that one OL guy wont make the offense that different in one year, but one of those two safeties could have made enough time for our DL to get the job done. Now the middle is still open and your pick really wont be ready for a good year.

I disagree because we couldn't run in sorry yardage situations, also had problems with protections at times. Yes Martin can start and play well day 1 and help our offense become much more explosive, look at Fred as a rookie.

That's the problem you don't draft DBs to cover so the DL can rush you build up the DL so DBs agent covering forever. QBs have time they will carve anybody up, look at McGloin last year...DBs had good coverage but no rush let him to throw with great accuracy. Other QBs same thing.

That being said SS is not a need but a FS wouldn't be bad later like Tre Boston from UNC in 7th round can be that guy.

 

[ShiningStar]

We did nothing on the defensive line last season either.

yes but with that pick T Fred was an instant starter and an instant upgrade, that was still a good pick because it bought Romo some time. Its that we missed on two players who could have shored up our defense immediately that has me irked.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

We did nothing on the defensive line last season either.

But look what we had starting Spencer, Ratliff, Hatcher, Ware was a decent looking DL with Guys like Crawford and Bass backing it up. They got injuried then the back ups got injuried, 23 different players on DL last year.

We will draft DL this year and most likely 2nd and or 3rd

 

[Irvin88_4life]

yes but with that pick T Fred was an instant starter and an instant upgrade, that was still a good pick because it bought Romo some time. Its that we missed on two players who could have shored up our defense immediately that has me irked.

You do realize that Martin is a better rated player then Fred, so if Fred did that much what would a better player do? Build trenches have no problems fixing OL, Martin was highest rated player on the board, all defense was gone and you don't draft for need

 

[ShiningStar]

I disagree because we couldn't run in sorry yardage situations, also had problems with protections at times. Yes Martin can start and play well day 1 and help our offense become much more explosive, look at Fred as a rookie.

That's the problem you don't draft DBs to cover so the DL can rush you build up the DL so DBs agent covering forever. QBs have time they will carve anybody up, look at McGloin last year...DBs had good coverage but no rush let him to throw with great accuracy. Other QBs same thing.

That being said SS is not a need but a FS wouldn't be bad later like Tre Boston from UNC in 7th round can be that guy.

i like that you tried. No Tre Boston wont be that guy, no you WILL never hear, Tre Boston will be that guy. IT will never come up. Staring at high ranked safeties, that could immediately buy the defensive line guys a second or two would have immediately shown up, either on the field or on film. Ware, for as much as i loved the guy, was always a second or two late. The two safeties Dallas is staring at, immedately bought that second.

Our overall problem on offense wasnt the offensive line at the end of the year, most of that came from our horrid game plan, unless Martin is going to make those changes, than our middle is still open. While im not a fan of our safeties, (excuse me for jumping), I think after round 1 our guys are on par. Its the two guys who could have come in , that would elevate the safety from that one second our dline could sorely use.

IS its a horrendous pick, by no means no, but i cant fathom staring at a need, remember in nother threads i said teh GB and detriot game should have been playing, and had those games been playing, someone should have said, safety it is. Donald being the obvious choice, okay hes off, but a guard over two guys who could have solidfied that position for years, its right there for the taking.

 

[garyv]

I LOVE THE PICK of Zack Martin who want shock me if he becomes a Pro Bowl Guard or Tackle. Andy Frederick was rock solid last year well Zack Martin will be even better. Solid Plug Player for the next 10 years. Now I do agree our next 3 picks need to be Defense. My thinking all along has been 11 Draft Picks 3 on Offense and 8 on Defense. I am one of the few that truly believes with Will McClay at the Draft board we will find a couple of gems even in the 7th Round. I see 7 to 8 solid rookies making this team and several starting.

 

[ShiningStar]

You do realize that Martin is a better rated player then Fred, so if Fred did that much what would a better player do? Build trenches have no problems fixing OL, Martin was highest rated player on the board, all defense was gone and you don't draft for need

the ratings are gone when the college season is over. ratings mean nothing on the NFL field. Why i felt T Fred was an instant upgrade was his body and his mind. T Fred came wiht a lot of people who know that couldnt stop raving about his mental make up, Martin might be phyically better, but i dont know if hes mentally better.

 

[Pabst]

I'm fine with it. None of the safeties impressed me. I'd rather have a very good OL than an average safety.

 

[speedkilz88]

mostly true...he ran Bush when REggie was healthy but he was banged up alot...and they didn't have a good backup...and then HE got hurt too.

He still ran more than the Cowboys.

 

[ShiningStar]

I LOVE THE PICK of Zack Martin who want shock me if he becomes a Pro Bowl Guard or Tackle. Andy Frederick was rock solid last year well Zack Martin will be even better. Solid Plug Player for the next 10 years. Now I do agree our next 3 picks need to be Defense. My thinking all along has been 11 Draft Picks 3 on Offense and 8 on Defense. I am one of the few that truly believes with Will McClay at the Draft board we will find a couple of gems even in the 7th Round. I see 7 to 8 solid rookies making this team and several starting.

thats all well and good, but the skill set will be harder to recover what we passed up on. The obvious answer was staring us in the face, take one of the two safeties, boom. Problem solved. Now its "safety is still a problem and the guy we might or MIGHT not replace ours with, will have to (and this is whats going to get people in the hold place) start praying they can become what we left in the draft. To me personally, you take the safety and finally get that monkey off your back.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

i like that you tried. No Tre Boston wont be that guy, no you WILL never hear, Tre Boston will be that guy. IT will never come up. Staring at high ranked safeties, that could immediately buy the defensive line guys a second or two would have immediately shown up, either on the field or on film. Ware, for as much as i loved the guy, was always a second or two late. The two safeties Dallas is staring at, immedately bought that second.

Our overall problem on offense wasnt the offensive line at the end of the year, most of that came from our horrid game plan, unless Martin is going to make those changes, than our middle is still open. While im not a fan of our safeties, (excuse me for jumping), I think after round 1 our guys are on par. Its the two guys who could have come in , that would elevate the safety from that one second our dline could sorely use.

IS its a horrendous pick, by no means no, but i cant fathom staring at a need, remember in nother threads i said teh GB and detriot game should have been playing, and had those games been playing, someone should have said, safety it is. Donald being the obvious choice, okay hes off, but a guard over two guys who could have solidfied that position for years, its right there for the taking.

But those two safeties wasn't rated higher then Martin and you don't draft for need. Had we thought they was higher rated then Martin I'm sure we would have taken a safety. To think Martin doesn't help our team be better is just being biased towards your own agenda

Yes Tre Boston can be a playmaker, let me correct that IS a playmaker.

 

[speedkilz88]

the ratings are gone when the college season is over. ratings mean nothing on the NFL field. Why i felt T Fred was an instant upgrade was his body and his mind. T Fred came wiht a lot of people who know that couldnt stop raving about his mental make up, Martin might be phyically better, but i dont know if hes mentally better.

I think he's a lot like Frederick.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

the ratings are gone when the college season is over. ratings mean nothing on the NFL field. Why i felt T Fred was an instant upgrade was his body and his mind. T Fred came wiht a lot of people who know that couldnt stop raving about his mental make up, Martin might be phyically better, but i dont know if hes mentally better.

Martin is every bit if not smarter mentally then Fred. Just wondering do you know much about Martin? Team leader/captain kind of guy

 

[Oh_Canada]

Simply put, the best thing we could've done in a deep defensive draft is take a highly ranked offensive lineman.

With this, our offense will be able to run the ball much better, in turn keeping the best part of our football team (offense) on the field.

We have promising safeties that are young in Church, Johnson, and Wilcox. Mo Claiborne should be improved with a full offseason, and I'm generally happy with Carr and Scandrick.

Our linebackers, if healthy, are a very formidable unit.

And the depth in this draft is defensive line, meaning we can snag difference makers and solid players in the later rounds. Rod Marinelli makes magic with anyone he can get his hands on.

tl;dr- Zach Martin keeps our defense off the field and the Cowboys felt the best addition to our defense was keeping them off the field as much as possible.

I freaking love the pick. This has the potential to be a top-5 offensive line in the league. And, incredibly young. Our line is going to last halfway through our next QB's career.

Dallas ran the ball as effectively an anyone a year ago....didn't help the defense a lick, but I get your point.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I think he's a lot like Frederick.

Yes he is, just more versatile then Fred. Great leader, had a high Wonderlic score

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Dallas ran the ball as effectively an anyone a year ago....didn't help the defense a lick, but I get your point.

For one we passed way to much. Short yardage was a problem but when we was able to run Murray was good. Waters and a FB was a big reason why

 

[Leadbelly]

Even if we don't run more, better pass protection will likely reduce chances of interceptions from hurried throws, especially from interior pressure. Will also allow for longer developing plays than we've been able to run the last few years.

 

[cowboyvic]

promising safeties? They were horrible last year, people seem to forget how really bad this D is

You got it man. just wait until the season starts and there are the same problems on this defense. the worst defense in cowboys history and Jerry picks an O-Linemen. STUPID!

 

[Oh_Canada]

For one we passed way to much. Short yardage was a problem but when we was able to run Murray was good. Waters and a FB was a big reason why

Berny played really well, I know people love to hate on him but the reality was he was very effective.

 

[garyv]

Well to me we should be drafting BPA not by strictly need. Did we need Johnny Football NO WE DID NOT. He would be a sexy pick but sexy picks are not what we need. Here is how I look at all this. We extended Romo so for the next 2 or 3 years we need Romo to complete his Contract just don't extend him any longer. In the time Romo is completing his contract we will be retooling our lines and making the rest of the team better. Every Draft has 2 to 4 Good QB's and eventually we will have to draft one to replace Romo but the rest of the team will be built especially the lines. If we have to package picks to get that franchise QB than it's fine if a majority of your team has already been built than you can do this without setbacks. This is where we are heading but in the mean time Romo still is highly capable of being a top 5 QB especially with a retooled Offensive Line in front of him