Will Cowboys WR hesitancy hurt team more?

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No. Wide receiver is one of the most overrated positions on a football team.
If you have a receiver who can run good routes and a quarterback who can anticipate where the throw needs to go and the courage to pull the trigger, you don't need a dynamic receiving corps. What do you think Tom Brady's and Russell Wilson's been doing all these years?
We've invested in T.O., Dez, Amari and Cee Dee, and what has it gotten us so far? NOTHING!
If your quarterback is making $40 plus million a year, he needs to hit guys where they should be when he releases the ball.
You shouldn't need a field loaded with elite receivers.
Dak said he's in the best shape of his life. Zeke says he feels 100 percent better. Tony Pollard is supposed to be integrated more into the offense.
Our receiving corps is fine. We (the coaches) need to coach them up in route running, and Dak needs to get them the ball.
Bringing in a receiver off the streets who is there for a reason, isn't going to help this team much.
Roll with what we've got.

yeah. All the smart gms use all their valuable resources on WRs..but you and Jerry jones are smarter than they are.
 

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Why because Washington got hurt? When are you going to understand that this is ALL ABOUT Cooper and Lamb and THATS IT!

Cooper was gone the MOMENT they drafted Lamb. Once they knew Lamb was the real deal, why pay Cooper 21 million for the next 3 years?

Its common sense, roster management. Stop thinking about THIS YEAR ONLY!
I don’t know why you’re yelling at me but trusting Jerry after he’s proven to be in incompetent after 27 years is all I’m saying is silly to do. He’s going to do it his way. That’s all I was trying to convey
 

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No. Wide receiver is one of the most overrated positions on a football team.
If you have a receiver who can run good routes and a quarterback who can anticipate where the throw needs to go and the courage to pull the trigger, you don't need a dynamic receiving corps. What do you think Tom Brady's and Russell Wilson's been doing all these years?
We've invested in T.O., Dez, Amari and Cee Dee, and what has it gotten us so far? NOTHING!
If your quarterback is making $40 plus million a year, he needs to hit guys where they should be when he releases the ball.
You shouldn't need a field loaded with elite receivers.
Dak said he's in the best shape of his life. Zeke says he feels 100 percent better. Tony Pollard is supposed to be integrated more into the offense.
Our receiving corps is fine. We (the coaches) need to coach them up in route running, and Dak needs to get them the ball.
Bringing in a receiver off the streets who is there for a reason, isn't going to help this team much.
Roll with what we've got.
Lol.

Without Cooper Kupp the rams don’t win the Supebowl. But sure.
 

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No. Wide receiver is one of the most overrated positions on a football team.
If you have a receiver who can run good routes and a quarterback who can anticipate where the throw needs to go and the courage to pull the trigger, you don't need a dynamic receiving corps. What do you think Tom Brady's and Russell Wilson's been doing all these years?
We've invested in T.O., Dez, Amari and Cee Dee, and what has it gotten us so far? NOTHING!
If your quarterback is making $40 plus million a year, he needs to hit guys where they should be when he releases the ball.
You shouldn't need a field loaded with elite receivers.
Dak said he's in the best shape of his life. Zeke says he feels 100 percent better. Tony Pollard is supposed to be integrated more into the offense.
Our receiving corps is fine. We (the coaches) need to coach them up in route running, and Dak needs to get them the ball.
Bringing in a receiver off the streets who is there for a reason, isn't going to help this team much.
Roll with what we've got.

We will likely be able to *upgrade* with a veteran WR after final cuts for a stick of gum.

Our receivers are not fine, especially while Gallup is out. Or Lamb. It's not like players don't get hurt during the year.
 

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I don’t know why you’re yelling at me but trusting Jerry after he’s proven to be in incompetent after 27 years is all I’m saying is silly to do. He’s going to do it his way. That’s all I was trying to convey

Jerry actually did the right thing for once getting rid of Cooper. Your just pissed because it temporarily hurts the offense a little for a year.
 

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How many games is Gallup going to miss. If our O-Line and RBs are healthy we will run and dink and dunk for a while. And I think he is expecting more out of his rookies.


Yes, we will and IMO it won't take much for teams to make us one-dimensional. I'm guessing they are thinking/hoping Noah Brown can take his game to another level.
 

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Jerry actually did the right thing for once getting rid of Cooper. Your just pissed because it temporarily hurts the offense a little for a year.
Yeah. Because its yet another year of wasting Dak's contract and another year of wear and tear on a lot of players.

Thats kind of a silly thing to say.
 

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We will likely be able to *upgrade* with a veteran WR after final cuts for a stick of gum.

Our receivers are not fine, especially while Gallup is out. Or Lamb. It's not like players don't get hurt during the year.
Every team runs the risk of their top receiver going down with an injury.
So, what do they do?
If no one is available on the open market, they roll with what they have.

Second, a team needs to be looking for receivers with good hands and who can run routes. They don't have to be superstars, just do what you're supposed to do. That is what Lockett, Edelman, Walker, Amendola, and every other B-list receiver does. The Patriots and Seahawks have shown that you don't need super star receivers to win - just guys willing to get open and make the play that leads to the next play that, hopefully, leads to a score.

Third, the responsibility is on the quarterback to get his receivers the ball. In our case, Dak has to do his job. That's why he's paid $40 million a year.

I don't anyone on the open market who's going to dramatically help this team. We drafted and developed guys for this purpose. Let them do their jobs.

Besides, we shouldn't be relying on the pass anyway. Why are we paying Zeke big bucks if he can shoulder the load? Let Zeke get his Freak on - in the running game, that is. ;)
 

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No, it helps because waiting drives down the price.

We're going to sign a veteran; it's just going to be on the cheap.
 

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No. Wide receiver is one of the most overrated positions on a football team.
If you have a receiver who can run good routes and a quarterback who can anticipate where the throw needs to go and the courage to pull the trigger, you don't need a dynamic receiving corps. What do you think Tom Brady's and Russell Wilson's been doing all these years?
We've invested in T.O., Dez, Amari and Cee Dee, and what has it gotten us so far? NOTHING!
If your quarterback is making $40 plus million a year, he needs to hit guys where they should be when he releases the ball.
You shouldn't need a field loaded with elite receivers.
Dak said he's in the best shape of his life. Zeke says he feels 100 percent better. Tony Pollard is supposed to be integrated more into the offense.
Our receiving corps is fine. We (the coaches) need to coach them up in route running, and Dak needs to get them the ball.
Bringing in a receiver off the streets who is there for a reason, isn't going to help this team much.
Roll with what we've got.

Nice post. GB just let go of Adams and the top WR is Lazard. Lamb is head and shoulders above him. No one is freaking out there.
 

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Yeah. Because its yet another year of wasting Dak's contract and another year of wear and tear on a lot of players.

Thats kind of a silly thing to say.

Its not about Dak, its about building a winner the right way. What are you going to pay Cooper 21 million per year and Lamb 30 million per year? Not winning that way buddy.
 

phildadon86

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Its not about Dak, its about building a winner the right way. What are you going to pay Cooper 21 million per year and Lamb 30 million per year? Not winning that way buddy.
Well if this is a throwaway year. They have to pay Dak 40 something next year against the cap. I get what you are saying and I agree as well. I just would have preferred if they were going to go this route that they drafted and or brought in some defensive players to make that unit Elite for when they are ready to add 1 or 2 pieces to the offense to make a run.
 

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Well if this is a throwaway year. They have to pay Dak 40 something next year against the cap. I get what you are saying and I agree as well. I just would have preferred if they were going to go this route that they drafted and or brought in some defensive players to make that unit Elite for when they are ready to add 1 or 2 pieces to the offense to make a run.

Who said anything about a throw away year? Thats again, your paranoia. Cowboys have properly assessed the team that its a year of growth and development while also remaining very competitive. Not a year to "go for it".
 

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I think fans will be pleasantly surprised at how well the WR core performs.
 

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Who said anything about a throw away year? Thats again, your paranoia. Cowboys have properly assessed the team that its a year of growth and development while also remaining very competitive. Not a year to "go for it".
Fair enough. I respect your opinion.

Still would have liked them to do something more at WR. Jarvis Landry would be looking real good right now with Washington out. And when Gallup returned we would have a nice group of WRs.

I saw a very interesting stat. Last season. No player out of the slot even came close to Landrys numbers. Actually it may have been over the past few seasons.

Either way. Landry didnt exactly get paid big dollars and would have been a much more solid pick up. They could have got Washington and Landry and I would feel a lot better.
 

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Fair enough. I respect your opinion.

Still would have liked them to do something more at WR. Jarvis Landry would be looking real good right now with Washington out. And when Gallup returned we would have a nice group of WRs.

I saw a very interesting stat. Last season. No player out of the slot even came close to Landrys numbers. Actually it may have been over the past few seasons.

Either way. Landry didnt exactly get paid big dollars and would have been a much more solid pick up. They could have got Washington and Landry and I would feel a lot better.

Tolbert is going to be a great receiver. What did Landry sign for?

Lamb, Gallup, Lamb is going to be amazing. You add Shultz to that group and its plenty of fire power.
 

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Tolbert is going to be a great receiver. What did Landry sign for?

Lamb, Gallup, Lamb is going to be amazing. You add Shultz to that group and its plenty of fire power.
6 million. 1 year. Cap hit of 3 million lol
 

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No. Wide receiver is one of the most overrated positions on a football team.
If you have a receiver who can run good routes and a quarterback who can anticipate where the throw needs to go and the courage to pull the trigger, you don't need a dynamic receiving corps. What do you think Tom Brady's and Russell Wilson's been doing all these years?
We've invested in T.O., Dez, Amari and Cee Dee, and what has it gotten us so far? NOTHING!
If your quarterback is making $40 plus million a year, he needs to hit guys where they should be when he releases the ball.
You shouldn't need a field loaded with elite receivers.
Dak said he's in the best shape of his life. Zeke says he feels 100 percent better. Tony Pollard is supposed to be integrated more into the offense.
Our receiving corps is fine. We (the coaches) need to coach them up in route running, and Dak needs to get them the ball.
Bringing in a receiver off the streets who is there for a reason, isn't going to help this team much.
Roll with what we've got.

What has Russell Wilson been doing all these years? Not much since he was on his rookie deal. Once the team made him the focus, they have been the Dallas Cowboys. He can no longer depend on his defense any longer. A defense carried him. Not sure he is a great example.

Go look at what Brady did his final year in NE when his WR corp was depleted. Not a good offense and got beat by Tennessee in the wild card round. Goes to Tampa with an outstanding WR corp and boom, he's back to normal. The 2 teams in the Super Bowl last year had really good WRs. Mahomes had Tyreek and Kelce.

Did you see what this team had in 2018 when they rolled out that group? That is not far from what we have now. Ceedee is going to be exposed with Cooper off the field.
 

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What has Russell Wilson been doing all these years? Not much since he was on his rookie deal. Once the team made him the focus, they have been the Dallas Cowboys. He can no longer depend on his defense any longer. A defense carried him. Not sure he is a great example.

Russell Wilson throws one of the best deep balls in the business. But outside Metcalf, he's never really had an elite receiver. Furthermore, his team has been hampered by offensive line woes.

Be that as it may, he did get to a Super Bowl by making plays when it counted and delivering the ball on point. That's my point.

Go look at what Brady did his final year in NE when his WR corp was depleted. Not a good offense and got beat by Tennessee in the wild card round. Goes to Tampa with an outstanding WR corp and boom, he's back to normal. The 2 teams in the Super Bowl last year had really good WRs. Mahomes had Tyreek and Kelce.

I'm sure you or any one can find one or two examples where a quarterback has fallen short. But look at Brady's overall career. Outside Randy Moss, he hasn't had a top-notch wide receiver. Again, that's my point.

Did you see what this team had in 2018 when they rolled out that group? That is not far from what we have now. Ceedee is going to be exposed with Cooper off the field.

Well, if our $40 million quarterback is worth his value, he'll get it to the receivers we have. We'll see.
 
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