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Alexander;2306988 said:I would not trade a first round pick for him. Not a chance.
What????? Are you kidding?
Alexander;2306988 said:I would not trade a first round pick for him. Not a chance.
Alexander;2307127 said:A receiver with one 1,000 yard season to his credit in a pass happy system is worth a first round draft choice?
Westcoasthabsfan;2307136 said:What????? Are you kidding?
Westcoasthabsfan;2307138 said:I think the quality of the QB's the Lions had has something to do with that... He would flourish in Big D.....
Alexander;2307140 said:You keep thinking that.
Hostile;2306136 said:Yesterday I put the chances we acquire him via trade before October 14th at 70/30. I think there is a very real chance.
That GM is now gone.
There have already been discussions about acquiring him from before the Draft. Detroit called us. Also don't forget that Jerry himself basically admitted at one point that Williams is the guy we would target.
It's poker. Timing is everything. Detroit most likely will be 0-4 after this weekend and they have a new trilogy of people doing the job as GM. They have to rebuild.
That means draft picks.
The player most likely to bring them some draft picks is Roy Williams.
They will not re-sign him to a long term deal. They have not even made him an offer. If they Franchise tag him and no one accepts their asking price they are screwed.
They won't roll the dice that way unless they have no other choice.
70/30 and rising. If Detroit loses to Chicago I put the odds at 80/20. Next up would be at Minnesota. If they go 0-5 before the trade deadline the odds are 90/10.
No team is going to make a deal with them unless they can sign him long term. Long term he has two options that he has made very clear.
1. Stay with the team that Drafted him.
2. Go home to Texas.
It's poker. Patience will pay off.
Spectre;2306068 said:I'm discouraged as I believe there's no chance of us acquiring Williams via trade this season and I think that's foolish.
But I would be fine if we didn't acquire him because the asking price was absurd.
My question is... do you think Jerry will even inquire about him or do you think Jerry believes that any likely price is too much for him in a contract year, their demands in the past have been ridiculous and our current team is fine without his addition? Also, because Jerry may have inquired in the past about him (draft day, etc.) would he just assume 'they'll call me' if they really want to do something?
Either way, I'm ticked off because I think it's dumb not to go after him and I'm convinced we won't. But I'd have an easier time swallowing it if I thought we made a legitimate attempt to but just couldn't pay their ridiculous price.
I would agree Boldin is the better player and I'd be all over trading for him as well.Alexander;2307139 said:No, I am not kidding.
Roy Williams is becoming a legend based off of what? One very good season? I would take Boldin over him ten times over. He has stronger character and is able to produce consistently.
If I am giving up a first round choice, I would do it for the player than brings more to the table than Williams does.
Spectre;2307227 said:I would agree Boldin is the better player and I'd be all over trading for him as well.
But I don't think the Boldin thing is likely, either. Boldin might cost even more than a 1st having the year he's having and has a little more wear and tear on him than Williams.
I am confident that Williams would be a completely different player in the Dallas offense. No other team could make Roy Williams his potential like the Cowboys.
Boysboy;2307228 said:He also had Jon Kitna, Joey Harrington, and all those other louse Lions QBs throwing him the ball all these years there.
Romo throwing him the ball would be a HUGE upgrade. And less not forget too TO will be seeing far less double teams as well.
Hostile;2307043 said:And if the deadline passes and we do lose Owens to another injury it will be to late to address a critical need.
Yeah, but I don't care about those teams. I care very deeply about this one.dbair1967;2307639 said:you can same the same thing about alot of teams Hos.
Hostile;2307683 said:Yeah, but I don't care about those teams. I care very deeply about this one.