Will The Costa-Haters still hate If he shows improvement?

Costa did okay last year, particularly toward the end of the year. He's far from the disaster people make him out to be. There's no doubt he'll improve in year two.
 
theogt;4606268 said:
Costa did okay last year, particularly toward the end of the year. He's far from the disaster people make him out to be. There's no doubt he'll improve in year two.


He won't, but there's some reason to believe the OL positions that were played equally poorly last year around him might improve.

Doug Free will keep play at RT solid. Tyron Smith should improve the play at LT by leaps and bounds. Livings should improve LG play, and Leary, Bernadeau, and Nagy will probably improve RG play overall.

Net improvement elsewhere can help compensate for Costa's weakness, but if RG fails to develop we've got problems.

Add to it the several annual brain fart games from Livings and a possible injury and you have the makings of several bad games from the inside OL.

All the Cowboys had to do was sign someone at center and the odds of improved interior OL play would have greatly improved.

Instead what they have guaranteed is there will be average to poor play and no help should things go bad at OG.
 
AbeBeta;4606264 said:
the better question is whether Costa haters would prefer that he continues to suck so that they can be right OR whether they would prefer that he actually improved.

The best question would be just how old are these people asking such juvenile questions?
 
jnday;4606267 said:
Who don't we hate that can start at center other than Costa?

You're asking the wrong guy. I literally think you could pick up a street free agent who can play better than that bum.
 
ravidubey;4606266 said:
How can any Cowboys fan besides Costa's family not dislike Costa as a starter?

Why would he be any better than last year? He has limited pedigree and proved that poor pedigree to be correct with poor play on the field.

"Improvement" from Costa is inevitable given how bad he was last season. Unfortunately common sense tells us the odds of that level of improvement being enough to make Costa even an average center are not good.

I think people like Costa because they are forced to like him since the GM has given fans no other choice besides Kowalski who may as well be the same guy.

The outside shots worth praying for is that Arkin, Nagy, or Leary might show something after a position switch. Those are guys who have top potential yet fell in the draft because of injury or playing for a small school. But there you've got to factor the Cowboys have already more than filled their longshot quota in Ratliff, Austin, and Romo. Not many late rounders are going to play at a high level, and that's what I want for my team.

Hater.
 
Risen Star;4606280 said:
You're asking the wrong guy. I literally think you could pick up a street free agent who can play better than that bum.

You're on a roll today. I don't get the hate. Costa was the 30th ranked center last year. If he works real hard, he could move up to 28th. That is what you call hope. Everything will be okay though. We have plenty of CBs.
 
newlander;4606251 said:
.......dude sucks, and yes, I hate him because of it. Get him off my team: if he comes around this season (which I seriously DOUBT) I'll be ecstatic to eat crow

At least You embrace the Costa-Hate..
 
theogt;4606289 said:
Of course he will. Don't be ridiculous.

No guarantee of anything. Even if he did, nothing says he's still good enough to not be a weak link.
 
jnday;4606292 said:
You're on a roll today. I don't get the hate. Costa was the 30th ranked center last year. If he works real hard, he could move up to 28th. That is what you call hope. Everything will be okay though. We have plenty of CBs.

What makes you leap to such strange conclusions? Rated 30th by what service? And what was the trend? And why is his 'ceiling' 28? What if he improves to 16th best, and you assume your ratings are a perfect system. Is it not ok to have one average starter out of 22?

Give me the above average CBs anytime. It's only in the CZ time-warp that that's even a question fans aren't embarrassed to ask, and only then because Risen Star is playing with you guys and you don't understand that he's not serious when he tries to make the case that the coverage doesn't matter.
 
I'm not a fan of him in the least.

However if he shows improvement I'll gladly acknowledge it and be very happy that he did improve.
 
BraveHeartFan;4606307 said:
I'm not a fan of him in the least.

However if he shows improvement I'll gladly acknowledge it and be very happy that he did improve.

Yeah, I should probably stressed that I was shocked and disappointed we made no effort to bring in competition at OC this offseason, too.
 
Idgit;4606306 said:
What makes you leap to such strange conclusions? Rated 30th by what service? And what was the trend? And why is his 'ceiling' 28? What if he improves to 16th best, and you assume your ratings are a perfect system. Is it not ok to have one average starter out of 22?

Give me the above average CBs anytime. It's only in the CZ time-warp that that's even a question fans aren't embarrassed to ask, and only then because Risen Star is playing with you guys and you don't understand that he's not serious when he tries to make the case that the coverage doesn't matter.

I didn't leap to any conclusion. The 30th ranking has been common knowledge on this board for several months. You must have missed the 20 or so threads that the ranking was discussed. I can't take credit for the ratings. They are not an invention that I came up with. Costa's ceiling may be 16th. IMO it is closer to 28th. If you want a center that has a ceiling of average, you have lower expectations than I do. One thing is for certain, he is not the only olineman on this team with below average talent.

The CB comment was joking with Risen. I am one of the few on this board that agrees with many of his opinions. After getting to know him, I understand his positions very well and have defended many of them.
 
Vinnie2u;4606065 said:
If during training camp and the pre-season Costa shows improvement in strength and technique and beats out all comers.. Will you say he still sucks? And his arms are too short. Or will you conceed that he just needed a full offseason and better players around him?

I don't think he'll be able to overcome his short arms and lack of great balance/movement skills. The short arms make it difficult for him to keep good defensive linemen from controlling him and the balance issue makes him inconsistent in getting on linebackers, without falling down. Strength and technique are not his problems.

That being said, players with handicaps in their games have been able to overcome them before, so I'm always willing to be proven wrong by smart, try-hard guys. I just wish Dallas was better prepared for him proving to be what some of us believe him to be. Costa being the starter by default would not be a good thing.
 
Vinnie2u;4606065 said:
If during training camp and the pre-season Costa shows improvement in strength and technique and beats out all comers.. Will you say he still sucks? And his arms are too short. Or will you conceed that he just needed a full offseason and better players around him?

Yeah, I would STILL hate him. I just dont like a guy doing a great job on the field for my team. Same goes for Romo. I just hate the guy, no matter what. Although I want the Cowboys to win another SB, I absolutely want Romo to suck while doing so.....Costa too! SMH.
 
BraveHeartFan;4606307 said:
I'm not a fan of him in the least.

However if he shows improvement I'll gladly acknowledge it and be very happy that he did improve.
This is my take.

Personally, I think his physical limitations will limit his ceiling to something probably not much better than an average player, and this year I would definitely settle for average seeing that we don't have a lot of players to pick from there, but I still want the team to look for another option next season.
 
Risen Star;4606279 said:
The best question would be just how old are these people asking such juvenile questions?

A better question is how you could be on this board long enough to have a ton of posts yet not see how there is a distinct element on this board who care more about being right about a player than whether the guy helps the team or not
 
There's no correcting Costa, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make the 53 man roster. Seriously.
 
Why do I picture some guy with short, stubbly arms playing football?
 

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