Will the Cowboys sign Nate Clements?

[Big Dakota]

Wanna upgrade our pass coverage? Fix the pass rush.

Coming to you since 1996.

 

[Rampage]

i heard simion rice will be a fa, anybody care for simion rice?

 

[smarta5150]

i heard simion rice will be a fa, anybody care for simion rice?

I think he may be over the hill.

 

[smarta5150]

And not really a 3-4 DE.

 

[Rampage]

And not really a 3-4 DE.

screw the 3-4! hey bill, this isn't the 80s anymore! the 3-4 is run different nowadays

 

[TheSport78]

assuming ellis comes back..i kinda like the duo of carpenter and ellis with carp playing on 1st, 2nd down and ILB in the nickel (replacing bradie), while ellis can play either OLB or DE in the nickel..lots of flexibility there

 

[smarta5150]

assuming ellis comes back..i kinda like the duo of carpenter and ellis with carp playing on 1st, 2nd down and ILB in the nickel (replacing bradie), while ellis can play either OLB or DE in the nickel..lots of flexibility there

I hope Ellis can somehow come back and help us where we lack the pass rush.

 

[TheSport78]

I hope Ellis can somehow come back and help us where we lack the pass rush.

same here man..the only thing i'm concerned with is his age..ellis isn't in the prime of his career and most likely won't be 100% ever again IMO

 

[Achozen]

In 2005, he was not good. In the combined KC Joyner/Football Outsiders shutdown cornerback rankings, out of the 58 cornerbacks who started at least 10 games, he ranked anywhere from 42nd to 51st, depending on the statistic (things such as yards per pass, target percentage, yards per target, success percentage, etc.). I'm still working on combining STATS' numbers into those, but STATS had him eighth (eighth-worst) in times targeted, catches allowed, yards allowed and touchdowns allowed.

In 2006, he was slightly better, but STATS still had him 16th (16th-worst) in times targeted, 11th in catches allowed and 29th in yards allowed.

Here's how STATS had Clements and Anthony Henry for 2006 --

Clements -- 59-for-99 (59.6 percent), 658 yards, one TD, 20 PD, three INT
Henry -- 60-for-110 (54.5 percent), 688 yards, five TD, 21 PD, two INT


If Clements doesn't revert back to the way he played in 2004, he really wouldn't be an upgrade over Henry. And if he played like he did in 2005, he'd be worse -- and he'd make a lot more money.

what he said.

 

[AmishCowboy]

How About Rodrick Hood from the Eagles?, He's ready to start, has played a lot and would be a lot cheaper then Samuel or Clement.

 

[mwmilsted]

Samuels from NE I believe.

Hood from the Beagles.

 

[HTownCowboysFan]

Bills | Team expected to lose Clements in offseason
Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:02:18 -0800
Mark Gaughan, of the Buffalo News, reports the Buffalo Bills will unlikely be able to re-sign CB Nate Clements, who is expected to receive a lucrative offer as a free agent in the offseason.

this could be the missing piece to our secondary..especially if henry is moved to FS

Newman, Clements, Henry and Roy playing close to the line...now that is NASTY!

I don't expect the Cowboys to bring in a high-$, FA CB this year. You can't pay all your secondary like first round draft choices. I could see them drafting one in round 2 or 3.

You supliment via FA, not build your team -- that's what the draft is for.

 

[AtlCB]

Asante Samuel wasn't much better, according to STATS. He allowed 54 catches on 102 attempts for 646 yards (52.9 percent) and two touchdowns, with 24 passes defelected. He missed one game, so those numbers would project to 58-for-109 for 689 yards over 16 games -- almost identical to those for Henry and Clements.

The difference, of course, was that Samuel had 10 interceptions this season. But he never had more than three picks in any year before this season, and his shutdown numbers weren't any better than Clements' numbers last season (STATS had Samuel allowing fewer completions but more yards and touchdowns, Joyner had Samuel allowing the 10th-most yards, and FO had him allowing the 12th-most).

Are there any potential free agents that did well? Also, how well did T-New do?

 

[Cowboys&Caps]

Maybe in Washington, though...

no.....skins are cap strapped they will just be able to sign a pair of backups and their rookies.

 

[jazzcat22]

Cannot always judge a CB's performance by their interceptions. Sometimes, offenses stay clear of the good CB's and don't throw their way.

Right...see TNew's stats....

 

[Chocolate Lab]

How About Rodrick Hood from the Eagles?, He's ready to start, has played a lot and would be a lot cheaper then Samuel or Clement.

That's a good thought. Al Harris is one of the better CBs in the league, IMO, and GB got him the same type of way.

I just hate to pay top dollar for almost any FA who is at the top of his bidding class for that year... It almost never seems to pan out.

Anyone have any other ideas for some under-the-radar corners we might look at? Adam?...

(I'm still not sold on moving Henry, though. Jerry said they would consider it, not that they'd do it.)

 

[5mics]

.....CB Nate Clements who I think will be an URFA?! Would he be worth the $$$ it would take to get him?! Anthony Henry could finally move to FS and we should draft a CB within the first three rounds as a future starter. Aaron Glenn is getting old & Nate Jones and Jacques Reeves are strictly back-ups, nothing more.....

 

[theogt]

Yes, we have the cap space. Is he a good signing, though? Well, Asante Samuel is probably the better CB.

 

[LatinMind]

Yes, we have the cap space. Is he a good signing, though? Well, Asante Samuel is probably the better CB.

give me either and ill be happy. both are 26 and both are very good at what they do. clements is the more physical type, while samuels is a posistion guy.

u cant go wrong with either. but me my first choice would be on of them chicago bears cb's. either tillman or vasher. the bears have said they probalby wont be able to sign both after that big contract they signed ricky manning to, and with the emergence of 23. lol his name slips my mind

 

[5mics]

give me either and ill be happy. both are 26 and both are very good at what they do. clements is the more physical type, while samuels is a posistion guy.

u cant go wrong with either. but me my first choice would be on of them chicago bears cb's. either tillman or vasher. the bears have said they probalby wont be able to sign both after that big contract they signed ricky manning to, and with the emergence of 23. lol his name slips my mind

I never even heard that Vasher could be available. If that's the case, I'd go after him over Samuel and Clements. Vasher is a very good tackler and is a proven cover corner. Plus, he's also a very good KR. He'd cost us less than the other two.....