Will the offense, defense or ST be in the top 10?

VACowboy

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theogt said:
This is the same tautological argument that BDC made.

You can use any big word that you want to dismiss any argument you want. Doesn't make it anything more than your opinion, especially when you provide no facts to back your own premise.

Quoting ogt: That's what you call a tautological argument. The point is that the final score isn't the best predictor for offenses.

You're right. I never claimed it was. But what the numbers show is that scoring points is more important to making the playoffs than racking up yardage, and if winning Super Bowls is the goal, scoring points says more about offensive success than making yards. That tells me that better offenses score more points with less yardage. 75% of the playoff teams did.

It always looks kind of silly to me when someone's repetitive argument is "Your argument sucks. You're wrong," while never actually providing any sort of data to disprove the data being criticized.
 

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If you read what I posted you'll see that I didn't do what you're claiming. That's a strawman. Another logical fallacy, but this one's not a "big word". If I knew another smaller word for "tautological" I'd use it. I agree that scoring more points is a better goal than gaining more yardage, but that isn't what we were talking about.

Also, a team that has a great defense and a mediocre offense can run up the score with very little yardage. It's called "field position". There's another reason why overall scoring isn't a better predictor for offense than overall yardage.
 
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