Will we draft offense with the 1st round pick.

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Wolverine said:
I sure would like to use the 1st round pick on offense. If a top OL should fall to us at 18 or if a miracle happens and Cutler should fall to us or a WR like Jackson those would be a real good choice.

I am not sure why but I just have this real weird feeling that that we will be using a 1st rounder on a RB. Dunno why...but I just do.


You're a... slightly off balance on this one pal.

To not draft a guy in round 1 not to be a starter this year is well--- goofy.

We need a starting OLB and a starting FS.

The path is well known.
 

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stasheroo said:
I agree that the top 3 needs are:

Outside Linebacker
Offensive Line
Safety

I think value will dictate the order in which those needs are filled.

If Justice fell to #18, that might dictate the Cowboys addressing Offensive Line first, otherwise I think it will be Outside Linebacker. (I don't think Eric Winston is worth a first rounder personally)

Our top "Starting Needs" are:

Outside Linebacker
Safety

Feel free to edit your post so it looks like this opinion is yours so you look good. ;)
 

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Wolverine said:
I sure would like to use the 1st round pick on offense. If a top OL should fall to us at 18 or if a miracle happens and Cutler should fall to us or a WR like Jackson those would be a real good choice.

I am not sure why but I just have this real weird feeling that that we will be using a 1st rounder on a RB. Dunno why...but I just do.

I was told that someone was in chat last year that was also at valley ranch and they remember you going ballistic every time we passed on a WR.

So the word is they enjoyed it so much they decided they will not go Offense in the first. ;)
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Our top "Starting Needs" are:

Outside Linebacker
Safety

Feel free to edit your post so it looks like this opinion is yours so you look good. ;)

I think you're assuming we feel Al Singleton should either be cut or benched. If we spent a 1st on an OLB that would be the case I agree. But if we traded down and we felt the options weren't there it would not be that bad for us to have an OLB rotation of Al, Chris Gacong (3rd round) and possibly Burnett if he's healthy. In some ways it could work out better for us in the long run if Burnett bounces back. Gacong has been compared to Tedy Bruschi, and we also had him workout at ILB, which would give us aded depth there. OLB in the 1st is still likely but not a lock by any means.
 

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DLCassidy said:
I think you're assuming we feel Al Singleton should either be cut or benched. If we spent a 1st on an OLB that would be the case I agree. But if we traded down and we felt the options weren't there it would not be that bad for us to have an OLB rotation of Al, Chris Gacong (3rd round) and possibly Burnett if he's healthy. In some ways it could work out better for us in the long run if Burnett bounces back. Gacong has been compared to Tedy Bruschi, and we also had him workout at ILB, which would give us aded depth there. OLB in the 1st is still likely but not a lock by any means.
Whether we draft an OLB in the first or third, Al is going to be seeing a lot of action from the sidelines. That's a given. I think it's also a given that this is Al's last year as a Cowboy unless he's ok with being a quality backup in the 3-4. With all this in mind, you have to draft someone who'll be ready to start full-time by the second half of 06 and beyond. Would you rather that be Lawson/Wimbley/Carpenter or the like? or Gocong?
 

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DLCassidy said:
I think you're assuming we feel Al Singleton should either be cut or benched. If we spent a 1st on an OLB that would be the case I agree. But if we traded down and we felt the options weren't there it would not be that bad for us to have an OLB rotation of Al, Chris Gacong (3rd round) and possibly Burnett if he's healthy. In some ways it could work out better for us in the long run if Burnett bounces back. Gacong has been compared to Tedy Bruschi, and we also had him workout at ILB, which would give us aded depth there. OLB in the 1st is still likely but not a lock by any means.


Hey, I agree that an OLB in the 1st is not a lock.

If Huff fell to us... I'd be all over him and solve our FS problems for a long time to come.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Hey, I agree that an OLB in the 1st is not a lock.

If Huff fell to us... I'd be all over him and solve our FS problems for a long time to come.
Then again, its a lock that Huff isn't falling to us.
 

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theogt said:
Whether we draft an OLB in the first or third, Al is going to be seeing a lot of action from the sidelines. That's a given. I think it's also a given that this is Al's last year as a Cowboy unless he's ok with being a quality backup in the 3-4. With all this in mind, you have to draft someone who'll be ready to start full-time by the second half of 06 and beyond. Would you rather that be Lawson/Wimbley/Carpenter or the like? or Gocong?

It could be Burnett. Or are you writing him off permanently?
 

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Frankly, I fully expect us to move almost entirely out of round 1....I won't like it, but I think we'll end up moving down from #18 however many times it takes to make sure we get at least FS, OL, WR, and LB all on day 1...we may even move enough to also add a QB.
 

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DLCassidy said:
It could be Burnett. Or are you writing him off permanently?
No, but he has a giant "?" by his name. Some reports say that he won't even be ready by week 1. He certainly won't be up to full speed until well into the season.
 

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The strength of this draft is defense and we have very real needs on D.
I agree, but:
1. We have needs on the O-line, too.
2. If the draft is deep at defense, it means that you can wait another round and still get good defensive players.
3. Jerry said that this offseason would be devoted to offense.
 

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wayne_motley said:
Frankly, I fully expect us to move almost entirely out of round 1....I won't like it, but I think we'll end up moving down from #18 however many times it takes to make sure we get at least FS, OL, WR, and LB all on day 1...we may even move enough to also add a QB.
If we do all that, we'll end up with 5 late 3rd round picks. What quality would you get with that?
 

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theogt said:
No, but he has a giant "?" by his name. Some reports say that he won't even be ready by week 1. He certainly won't be up to full speed until well into the season.

Your point was about next season not this one, wasn't it?
 

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Your point was about next season not this one, wasn't it?
My point is that I want to know who our future starter is going to be by training camp. With a first round pick we're about 95% certain he's our future starter. With Burnett I would say there's a 40% chance he can become our future starter. That's a big question mark.
 

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Ware and Spears are the role models of what type of off field/lockerroom guy they want to draft in the early rounds. Winston Justice doesn't fit that model and he is the only OL worthy of a mid to late first round pick. So no they won't go offense, I expect Lawson or Wimbley with the first round pick.
 

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MichaelWinicki said:
Our top "Starting Needs" are:

Outside Linebacker
Safety

Feel free to edit your post so it looks like this opinion is yours so you look good. ;)


Every year it is defense. Maybe what we really need to do is get a good DC in here so we dont need to keep drafting defense.
 

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We really needs to overhaul the offensive line and start drafting skill positions. I know alot of fans are in love with Manny Lawson, and he is certainly worth the 18th pick, but we need to draft on the offense and now. Our QB,WRs, and Olineman will soon need to be replaced. An ideal draft - in my opinion - would be to trade our 18th pick to someone like Houston for their 2nd and 3rd round picks. Our draft could look like this.
2nd - Thomas Howard OLB
2nd - Maurice Stovall WR
3rd - best available guard probably Lutui or Jason Spitz
3rd - best available tackle proabably Andrew Whitworth
 

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neosapien23 said:
We really needs to overhaul the offensive line and start drafting skill positions. I know alot of fans are in love with Manny Lawson, and he is certainly worth the 18th pick, but we need to draft on the offense and now. Our QB,WRs, and Olineman will soon need to be replaced. An ideal draft - in my opinion - would be to trade our 18th pick to someone like Houston for their 2nd and 3rd round picks. Our draft could look like this.
2nd - Thomas Howard OLB
2nd - Maurice Stovall WR
3rd - best available guard probably Lutui or Jason Spitz
3rd - best available tackle proabably Andrew Whitworth


Our OL should be better. I know not to many Cowboy fans think much of Kyle Kosier but here is something to think about. CNNSI listed Kosier as one of the top 5 sleeper picks in FA. They think has the size and power to be really good. They said his biggest weakness is that he has been allowed to play just ONE position on the OL. If he can be just allowed to play guard then I think we can have a real good one here.

Also I dont think much of Al Johnson but he will be healthy this year and he has gotten his weight up to 318 pounds with some hard work in the gym. So maybe he comes out kickin butt this year.


But I agree I would like to see us make some moves for more OL.


As for WR I would not mind Chad Jackson but if we do not draft a WR no biggie wait another draft or 2 for that. TO Glenn and Crayton are gonna be real dangerous.


Now I do think there is a chance we could make a surprise move up and take Jay Cutler. Here is why.

Henson is gettin better and doin good in NFLE. But it is easy to see why Parcells tried to get him to change his throw motion. He sidearms it when he does not need to and Henson will get alota knocked down passes in the NFL. Unless he changes that motion soon then I would not be surprised if we trade up for Cutler.

Cutlers biggest weakness is he has no weapons around him. He is 6'3" 232 lbs and runs a 4.6 40. Very athletic strong and a cannon arm. I cant help but think Parcells has his eye on Cutler and will want to leave this team with a QB of the future. Cutler could be the steal of the draft and end up bein the best QB in this draft.

If Cutler is still there after #10 dont be surprised if we make the move for him. I do not expect it to happen but I think it could happen.
 
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