With Parcells calling the shots...

[superpunk]

Don't forget, Terry is one of "Bill's guys".

Owens obviously is not.

Exactly. Parcells never wanted to draft Terry Glenn, and was forced to do it by Bob Kraft, when Bill wanted a defensive player. This ultimately led to Bill's ugly exit from NE.

Terry Glenn - Bill's guy.

 

[Stautner]

With Parcells as the "old school" head coach, ... will we ever get our money's worth out of Terrell Owens ?

Or will he always hold him back so one player doesn't overshadow the team ?

Sort of like Dean Smith did with Michael Jordan at UNC.

I really don't think the Michael Jordan analogy applies.

First, basketball is a different game.

Second, UNC had older stars - Worthy was the NCAA player of the year and Perkins was a stud as well.

Third, It's hard to fault the team over individual accomplishement philosophy.

 

[Doomsday101]

Don't forget, Terry is one of "Bill's guys".

Owens obviously is not.

For Christmas I'm going to buy you longer arms so you can reach a little further.

 

[WV Cowboy]

We target him more than any other receiver, in a variety of different routes, and Parcells is trying to hold him back so he doesn't get the glory?

I give up. Conspiracy theories are apparently way too fun. Maybe I'll start a thread about how Barber would be starting if Parcells didn't hate RBs with hair.

I'm not projecting any conspiracy or anything.

But I could see Parcells wanting to win without him just to show him he could.

He only had two balls thrown his direction in the entire first half. 2 ! (wasn't one thrown short and picked off on the far sideline ?)

That's like only giving Emmitt two carries during the first half.

He is one of the top 3 WR's in the league and 2 throws?

Still, it stayed that way while we were ahead or it was still early, then we fell behind and it started getting late in the 3rd or the 4th qtr and suddenly we started throwing to him a lot.

It' like, "Oh, we are behind and the game is almost over, we better score, ... throw it to Owens."

Just weird that while we were ahead or tied in the first half, he gets 2 balls and then 11 in the second half.

It seems that if Parcells could win without him, he might like that.

I hope I'm way off-base.

 

[sf49rh8r]

My point in mentioning DS & MJ was back to the old joke that nobody could stop MJ except DS.

Nobody can stop Owens except Parcells and his offense.

I wasn't comparing player skills or coaches talents.

The comparison was justified....I still feel the bigger problem is having an immobile, slow release, happy footed QB. Youth springs eternal.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Nope.

I think Parcells wants to win just as much as Owens does and has a million different motivating factors of his own for wanting too.

I think the desire to get the guy the ball is there, but I think they need to explore more options on how to get him the ball.

Parcells can only do so much, eventually his Quarterback and the offensive line have to execute.

- Mike G.

 

[sf49rh8r]

I understand. Just trying to lend both sides a voice. I don't think Parcells is a bad coach, per say. I think he's a good one. I don't like some things about him but in the end, I think we are probably lucky to have him.

I still want Jimmy back...

 

[WV Cowboy]

Exactly. Parcells never wanted to draft Terry Glenn, and was forced to do it by Bob Kraft, when Bill wanted a defensive player. This ultimately led to Bill's ugly exit from NE.

Terry Glenn - Bill's guy.

Parcells brought Glenn here from GB, like so many other X-players.

He has nothing but praise for him. Glowing praise.

Glenn = Bills guy

 

[Doomsday101]

Parcells brought Glenn here from GB, like so many other X-players.

He has nothing but praise for him. Glowing praise.

Glenn = Bills guy

Come on Parcells is not out to get TO, you get after the media constantly about this type of comments from them and now you turn around and accuse Parcells of holding TO back? Please

 

[superpunk]

Parcells brought Glenn here from GB, like so many other X-players.

He has nothing but praise for him. Glowing praise.

Glenn = Bills guy

Brain was citing players who Parcells has let shine. Your original contention was that Parcells does not want one player getting too big, maybe especially not TO. Brain gave you Taylor, Martin, and McGinest. You didn't like that, because it wasn't WRs, so BP gave you Terry. If Bill had reason to hold anyone back intentionally - it was Terry. That was Bob Kraft's pick. Bill did not want him. However Bill, like any coach in the history of the universe, took what was given him, and made the best of it.

Thus, this WR, who Bill didn't want, set rookie records for WRs.

Your conspiracy-theory that Bill is somehow purposely holding TO back for ego purposes is just crazy, man. After all, what ego-trip could be bigger than winning it all with a player noone else could handle?

Stop reaching, Stretch Armstrong.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

If T.O. does not get more into the game plan, I am afraid he and BP will butt heads and the result: will not be pretty

 

[neosapien23]

Okay lets be rational here. First off, I think it might be time for Dallas to hire a new coach, but lets not forget what Parcells accomplished as our head coach.

1. He built a good solid defense that will play at a high level for many years.
2. He found a starting quality RB in round 2
3. His drafts while not great, were pretty solid.
4. He paved the way for another coach by showing the media that Jones will not meddle. The Parcells experiment has made Jones realize that he needs a real football guy to run the team. If another coach is hired, he will have much more say in the personal department thanks to Parcells.

And for the bad:
1. He still hasn't fixed the Oline after 4 years. He spends too many picks on the defensive side of the ball.
2. He is too conservative on both sides of the ball. He is afraid to lose instead of trying to force a win.
3. He doesn't have the patience to groom a quarterback and go through the necessary losing seasons. Sometimes what is good for the franchise is not good for the season.
4. The move to scrap the 4-3 was not very smart. Dallas could have built a much better unit quickly if they would have stuck to their old scheme. Ware and Ellis would have been terrors in the 4-3 and Spears and Canty's athletism would be better utilzed as a rush DT. Burnett would be starting, James in the middle, and Carpenter to his natural postition on the strong side.

 

[sjordan6]

Okay lets be rational here. First off, I think it might be time for Dallas to hire a new coach, but lets not forget what Parcells accomplished as our head coach.

1. He built a good solid defense that will play at a high level for many years.
2. He found a starting quality RB in round 2
3. His drafts while not great, were pretty solid.
4. He paved the way for another coach by showing the media that Jones will not meddle. The Parcells experiment has made Jones realize that he needs a real football guy to run the team. If another coach is hired, he will have much more say in the personal department thanks to Parcells.

And for the bad:
1. He still hasn't fixed the Oline after 4 years. He spends too many picks on the defensive side of the ball.
2. He is too conservative on both sides of the ball. He is afraid to lose instead of trying to force a win.
3. He doesn't have the patience to groom a quarterback and go through the necessary losing seasons. Sometimes what is good for the franchise is not good for the season.
4. The move to scrap the 4-3 was not very smart. Dallas could have built a much better unit quickly if they would have stuck to their old scheme. Ware and Ellis would have been terrors in the 4-3 and Spears and Canty's athletism would be better utilzed as a rush DT. Burnett would be starting, James in the middle, and Carpenter to his natural postition on the strong side.

great points about the 4-3 but the 3-4 in not as bad as you think. I agree that we had the #1 defense with that 4-3 but I still say that we are able to contain alot more in the one we have. The problem is not having a solid rush. BP is a coach we loved but now is beginning to lose that love because of his stubborness. i admit he has done a great job in turning the club around and giving it a sense of direction because we were in bad shape when he got here. So thank you for that but now we want more and I dont see it happening rght now. Are we as fans overreacting? maybe but the proof will show!

 

[sjordan6]

If T.O. does not get more into the game plan, I am afraid he and BP will butt heads and the result: will not be pretty

We are not seeing how much we miss Sean Peyton! he was the genius behind the giants SB run and he actually designed bledsoe 3500 yard season last year. No I am not a bledsoe fan but SP was good for us. BP did not go out and get an experience and innovative OC and now it shows. Just think what SP would do with these players. Or even Norv. BP decided to use "his guys" who actually have never had pro OC position and the frustrations are mounting. There is simply no way a team should be able to double both receivers and not be burned by the run or TE. T.O. has every right to be frustrated with the offense but of course he will be seen as the bad guy.
But this time it's not his fault. it should fall on the coach because he actually is not using him right and the team is suffering .

 

[sf49rh8r]

great points about the 4-3 but the 3-4 in not as bad as you think. I agree that we had the #1 defense with that 4-3 but I still say that we are able to contain alot more in the one we have. The problem is not having a solid rush. BP is a coach we loved but now is beginning to lose that love because of his stubborness. i admit he has done a great job in turning the club around and giving it a sense of direction because we were in bad shape when he got here. So thank you for that but now we want more and I dont see it happening rght now. Are we as fans overreacting? maybe but the proof will show!

Yes, he has served and a good middle reliever but either the game has passed him by or he's too stubborn to adapt to some of the changes. I agree that he has definitely been an overall asset to the team and has brought back a lot of pride. But we aren't the Arizona Cardinals. We are not content with mediocrity. We are the Dallas Cowboys and our standards are higher. We might be spoiled as fans but we expect the very best. We've had it and we want more of it. Super Bowl rings are our expectations. And the question is can he get us another ring? And can Deadslow lead us there?

 

[sf49rh8r]

We are not seeing how much we miss Sean Peyton! he was the genius behind the giants SB run and he actually designed bledsoe 3500 yard season last year. No I am not a bledsoe fan but SP was good for us. BP did not go out and get an experience and innovative OC and now it shows. Just think what SP would do with these players. Or even Norv. BP decided to use "his guys" who actually have never had pro OC position and the frustrations are mounting. There is simply no way a team should be able to double both receivers and not be burned by the run or TE. T.O. has every right to be frustrated with the offense but of course he will be seen as the bad guy.
But this time it's not his fault. it should fall on the coach because he actually is not using him right and the team is suffering .

Bill is Teflon in this scenario. It can't be the first time TO has been doubled team and he's still produced. IF the opponent is blitzing and double teaming a WR...there has to be someone wide open. A good OC or hell a good QB picks that apart. TO isn't the only WR being double teamed in the NFL. Marvin, Chad, Steve and their coaching staffs find a way to get them the ball. Even if it is as simple and putting them in motion.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Your conspiracy-theory that Bill is somehow purposely holding TO back for ego purposes is just crazy, man. After all, what ego-trip could be bigger than winning it all with a player noone else could handle?

Stop reaching, Stretch Armstrong.

Like I posted earlier, I am not projecting any conspiracy theory.

I am not even believing it , I am just throwing it out there, kind of like, .. what if.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Don't forget, Terry is one of "Bill's guys".

Owens obviously is not.

Don't forget Terry, when he was a rookie and set the rookie record for receptions was NOT one of bills guys. Which eventually caused the split with the patriots.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Nope.

I think Parcells wants to win just as much as Owens does and has a million different motivating factors of his own for wanting too.

I think the desire to get the guy the ball is there, but I think they need to explore more options on how to get him the ball.

Parcells can only do so much, eventually his Quarterback and the offensive line have to be executed.

- Mike G.

I just added a few letters in bold above.