witten says, we need to execute & focus better

[JonJon]

He should have declined an interview.

I would have. Freaking Pro Bowl and he has to answer more TO questions.

Hopefully TO is gone soon. Sick of hearing about him.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

The difference is I don't take an extreme position and then feel the need to defend it in every thread. I say my piece and move on.

I definitely think Witten deserves the least amount of criticism, but he should get some. No one on this team is absolved after this stinker of a season.

You just contradicted yourself with that. To criticize Witten is an extreme position and no way would i or 90% of fans would agree with you. That just blows me away. You won’t throw a single stone at Jerry, but are ready to throw one at Witten. Wow!

 

[WoodysGirl]

You just contradicted yourself with that. To criticize Witten is an extreme position and no way would i or 90% of fans would agree with you. That just blows me away. You won’t throw a single stone at Jerry, but are ready to throw one at Witten. Wow!

I don't believe I contradicted myself, at all. Witten absolutely made some mistakes this year and deserves some criticism for that. Why not? You're saying he doesn't deserve any?

As for not criticizing Jerry, what are you talking about? I have criticized Jerry. Just because I don't argue ad nauseum about how Jerry sucks, doesn't mean he's not worthy of criticism. This whole team failed last year, Jerry runs the team. What more should I say regarding that?

Half the time I don't even post in some of these threads, because they're nothing but whiz fests, but it doesn't mean I think everything A-Ok.

 

[Clove]

I hope you're not implying that those two have correlation between each other.

I sure am, you can disagree all day and night, I'll stick with that.

 

[Clove]

I don't believe I contradicted myself, at all. Witten absolutely made some mistakes this year and deserves some criticism for that. Why not? You're saying he doesn't deserve any?

As for not criticizing Jerry, what are you talking about? I have criticized Jerry. Just because I don't argue ad nauseum about how Jerry sucks, doesn't mean he's not worthy of criticism. This whole team failed last year, Jerry runs the team. What more should I say regarding that?

Half the time I don't even post in some of these threads, because they're nothing but whiz fests, but it doesn't mean I think everything A-Ok.

In other words, it takes more than 1 PERSON TO DESTROY OR MAKE A SEASON.

 

[Bleu Star]

In other words, it takes more than 1 PERSON TO DESTROY OR MAKE A SEASON.

Indeed it does.

 

[DuaneThomas71]

Witten's right, of course, but the way to execute and focus better is to get better players. If we had more Wittens, Wares, Owenses, Ratliffs, and Choices, we'd be a much better team.

Unfortunately, inconsistent, oftentimes lazy players like Flozell Adams, Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, and Ken Hamlin tend to lose focus and not consistently execute.

 

[Bleu Star]

Witten's right, of course, but the way to execute and focus better is to get better players. If we had more Wittens, Wares, Owenses, Ratliffs, and Choices, we'd be a much better team.

Unfortunately, inconsistent, oftentimes lazy players like Flozell Adams, Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, and Ken Hamlin tend to lose focus and not consistently execute.

Flo & Gurode at the Pro Bowl is a joke.

 

[WoodysGirl]

In other words, it takes more than 1 PERSON TO DESTROY OR MAKE A SEASON.

It shouldn't.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I don't believe I contradicted myself, at all. Witten absolutely made some mistakes this year and deserves some criticism for that. Why not? You're saying he doesn't deserve any?

As for not criticizing Jerry, what are you talking about? I have criticized Jerry. Just because I don't argue ad nauseum about how Jerry sucks, doesn't mean he's not worthy of criticism. This whole team failed last year, Jerry runs the team. What more should I say regarding that?

Half the time I don't even post in some of these threads, because they're nothing but whiz fests, but it doesn't mean I think everything A-Ok.

No i don’t think he needs to be criticized at all. I think he went above and beyond. Is he perfect? Of course not, but why does anyone need to say that? As for Jerry, i haven’t heard you criticize him, maybe you posted and moved on...i don’t know. But you seem to go out of your way to defend him. Like the Reeves thing, you thought Reeves should be criticized. I just find that thought process extreme. To want to blame Witten? I think that is extreme, sorry.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Witten makes a couple of mistakes a season at best. He busts his tail, he goes all out. He plays hurt. He puts up huge numbers.

He is one player who should get absolutely no criticism.

he plays all out but he certainly had a number of drops this year, and was the goat in the Steeler game.

to say he is above criticism is silly.

 

[LatinMind]

No and I didn't say that.

He needs to be cut because he isn't worth the hassle. Not hearing about him every day is clearly just icing on the cake.

then stop watching espn and reading owens threads on msg boards and u wont have any worries. because thats where the stories are being brought up.

 

[dbair1967]

he plays all out but he certainly had a number of drops this year, and was the goat in the Steeler game.

to say he is above criticism is silly.

I remember a couple of drops this yr, considering how many times a game he's thrown too, there's nothing wrong with that

As for your goat comment, gimmee a freaking break. When your QB has 5 turnovers and you barely lose the game, the QB IS the goat, not a position player who ran one wrong route.

 

[dbair1967]

Witten's right, of course, but the way to execute and focus better is to get better players. If we had more Wittens, Wares, Owenses, Ratliffs, and Choices, we'd be a much better team.

Unfortunately, inconsistent, oftentimes lazy players like Flozell Adams, Marcus Spears, Chris Canty, and Ken Hamlin tend to lose focus and not consistently execute.

There's plenty of talent here to win big, you cant have a roster of 53 probowlers

 

[dbair1967]

Flo & Gurode at the Pro Bowl is a joke.

Adams was hurt all yr, Gurode is one of the concensus best centers in the game.

 

[Bleu Star]

Adams was hurt all yr, Gurode is one of the concensus best centers in the game.

Both are borderline IMO.

 

[dbair1967]

Both are borderline IMO.

I didnt think Adams should have been there this yr either, but he wasnt voted in, he was an alternate. And he did play hurt all yr.

Gurode I guess we'd have to agree to disagree.

 

[Bleu Star]

I didnt think Adams should have been there this yr either, but he wasnt voted in, he was an alternate. And he did play hurt all yr.

Gurode I guess we'd have to agree to disagree.

Well since we agree on Adams we can leave him alone.

Gurode, I just think he does some really dumb things at times. Your center has to be the smartest guy on that Oline. He's a good Center but Pro Bowl caliber? I'm not so sure so I will agree to disagree.

 

[WoodysGirl]

No i don’t think he needs to be criticized at all. I think he went above and beyond. Is he perfect? Of course not, but why does anyone need to say that?

Then that's where we disagree. I think it's easy to criticize T.O., Jerry, Romo, et al. I think it's being objective to point out that Witten has made mistakes that impacted the game or that Ratliff has made mistakes that impacted the game.

As for Jerry, i haven’t heard you criticize him, maybe you posted and moved on...i don’t know. But you seem to go out of your way to defend him. Like the Reeves thing, you thought Reeves should be criticized. I just find that thought process extreme. To want to blame Witten? I think that is extreme, sorry.

You're confusing blame with criticism. Blame is if Witten consistently didn't do his job. Not what I'm saying. I'm saying he's not above criticism, because he's not a perfect player and he made mistakes this year just like any other player.

As for the Jerry/Reeves thing, I posted that Jerry was wrong for inserting the clause at the last minute. I also looked at it as a failed business transaction, instead of all the emotional grieving that took place on the board.

IMO, that item should've taken them both back to the negotiating table. No one has a clear idea of what the "one thing" it was that caused it all to fall apart, and that it was wrong to assume what it was and put the failed deal all on Jerry.

The only true criticism I had for Reeves was the media circuit he did the next day. One interview should've been enough.

 

[Shake_Tiller]

The only true criticism I had for Reeves was the media circuit he did the next day. One interview should've been enough.

Woodysgirl, because I essentially agree with you, I disagree on this point... or at least, I don't think there's enough evidence. As you said, we don't know exactly the clause Jones wanted included in Reeves' contract. Without knowing, we don't know if it was truly rare. If it were the type of clause that is seldom if ever in an NFL coach's or executive's contract, and if it were inserted at the 11th hour, then Reeves, one could say, was extremely classy in limiting his criticism of Jones, even while agreeing to talk to many media outlets. That's especially true when one considers that Reeves turned down a job with the 49ers because he expected to join the Cowboys.

We don't know the circumstances, so I'm not sure we can know whether Reeves was wrong to talk to whomever he wished after the talks collapsed.

One other thing: Jones -- if he wanted to be a stickler for contract language, for some reason -- could have asked Reeves to sign a blanket confidentiality agreement before he interviewed him the first time. I imagine it's unlikely he could have made such an agreement stick without including some reasonable exceptions, but I don't know, as I am no contract lawyer. But it would not be unreasonable, given the circumstances, to ask for an interviewee to agree to confidentiality.

One day, maybe we'll all know the exact circumstances.