Woman gets three days in the slammer for wearing short shorts to court

Hostile

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Man! Good luck with those philosophies guys. I pray you never have to stand before a Judge. If you do, with the attitudes towards the court you are expressing here...don't whine when the Judge doesn't share your beliefs.

Unreal.
 

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Forget courtrooms. Have you seen what people are wearing to church these days? It's like they're dressing for Six Flags.
 

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Maybe I am just old school but when I go to interview for the job I wouldnt dream of wearing anything less then a suit. Why on earth would you want to make a bad first impression by not taking the time or putting in the effort to look approriate?

If your lazy in your appearance or dont care enough to put in the effort to look good for an interview how can someone believe you are going to go the extra mile to be a hard worker?

The last thing I want to do is start off on the wrong foot with a judge.
 

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ChldsPlay;2253181 said:
Why are shorts not appropriate? Says who? Some stuck up people? Shorts or pants have nothing to do with law, and which one is worn should NEVER be a consideration, let alone a mandate. Some people just don't care about clothes that much. Some people don't own really nice clothing. It's as stupid as a church expecting people to show up in a suit and tie. It's is meaningless crap and if anyone gets upset by it, they need something more meaningful in their lives because they obviously are lacking something.

That's right, don't worry about possibly hacking off the man who's gonna judge you... just wear what you want, show no respect for anything or anybody...

Then, accept the consequences of your actions... but hey, you've proven your independence, your right to look like a bum if you want to...

I hate wearing a tie, and the last time I was in court, I didn't... but I wore dress slacks and a nice dress shirt... it ain't a formal occasion, but if you want the judge to have some sympathy for you, it's just SMART to dress respectfully...

I guess you don't understand the concept of respect... you're not the only one, that last time I was in court (for a traffic accident), I saw a young guy come in with a t-shirt with a marijuana leaf logo, another in bib overalls with no shirt...

I was treated fairly and respectfully by the judge, because I treated him respectfully...
 

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Bob Sacamano;2253192 said:
and now you know



all I know is I'm going to court pimped out

One word of advice-- leave the fur coat at home...

Your friend, Michael Irvin...

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ChldsPlay;2253311 said:
It would depend on the job really.

You must be very, very young... perhaps with time, you'll understand that in situations like a job interview-- no matter what the job may be-- and court are times where you want to make a good impression, you want to curry favor with the interviewer or the judge...

And a court of law has more authority, but I don't know if I'd say it is "higher." Plenty of courts have shown themselves to be pretty low.

The point is, the judge of any court has a certain amount of control over your future, whether you like it or not... so it's wise to show him respect...

And at court, you're going to have a lot more of the "unsophisticated." You're not just dealing with people who went to college and graduated at 4.0.

It doesn't take a mental giant to have COMMON SENSE, son... it would seem that you're not overly blessed with it...

And the purpose of court is not to make good impressions. It is to determine fact, guilt and innocence. Manner of dress SHOULD NOT be a factor.

Maybe it shouldn't, but it does... let me tell you a little more about that day in court that I referred to in an earlier post; I had t-boned a van turning out onto a main road while leaving work one morning, just never saw him... I jumped out of my Jeep to make sure he was all right, he was, and a girl at the Waffle House saw the accident, and let us know she'd called the cops... we exhanged insurance info while waiting for Sgt. Knight to get there, he listened to our stories and cited me for failure to yield... he then helped me pull the fender out so that I could drive it home (which he didn't have to do)...

Well, for some reason that kind of traffic offense is one where you can't just mail in the fine, you have to appear in court... so the appointed day arrived, I dressed nicely, respectfully... my case was called, Sgt. Knight and I stepped forward, I was asked how I pled, and I responded "well, I did it, so I guess my only plea is guilty, sir"...

The judge looked up from the papers he was reading, he looked astonished... I then said that I simply never saw the poor guy, but that didn't change the fact the he had the right of way, and I hit him... the judge then looked at Sgt. Knight, who said something along the lines of "Mr. Cottrill was a perfect gentleman", which made me smile...

So the judge accepted my plea, and with a smile told me that I'd have to pay the fine, but he was waiving the court costs... I certainly didn't expect that...

So, the moral to the story is, by showing the court respect, I got off easy... that wasn't my plan, but that's the way it worked... and again, I wasn't in a coat and tie, I was in Haggar slacks, an Arrow dress shirt, and New Balance shoes...

The fact that the court makes it a factor is a disgrace, and disservice and makes the court deserving of NO respect.

Well, your problem is that the court doesn't CARE about your opinion... so you go right ahead and show them your lack of respect, just don't come whining to me if you get the book thrown at you...

Better still, with your attitude, you'd be wise to make REAL sure you never have to go to court... trust me, you won't do well there unless you wise up, and at least PRETEND that you have respect for the institution...
 

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stealth;2253333 said:
I know this will shock some people, but I have been to court a few times in my life. Every freaking time I was shocked at the clothes people would wear. In my opinion, no matter what your role is, if you are in court you dress better than you would for a job interview. You catch a judges ire and you end up in jail, how hard is that to understand?

Even the coupla times I was called for jury duty, I was astonished at how some of them were dressed when they showed up there...

But that's a LITTLE different, those folks might have been trying not to get selected... :D
 

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I was called in for jury duty in the Deep South once. It was during the hottest and most humid times of the year. I knew the court house air conditioning left much to be desired.

... think "Heat of the Night."

So I show up wearing a nice collared short sleeve shirt and khaki shorts. It's in the mid-90's and with the humidity, the heat index was much higher.

So the court clerk sees me coming through the door and demands that I rush home and change into long pants. He said that I better hurry because the judge wouldn't like me being late. I told the clerk that I didn't have the time to go home and change, and if the judge wanted to jail me for wearing shorts, so be it. The judge didn't mention my attire. So I was o.k.

At the same courthouse, they didn't allow jurors to even bring cell phones into the building. If a cellphone was discovered on one's person during the security check, the juror was required to take the cellphone back to their car.

....

Ordinarily I'd agree with more formal attire in the courtroom, but if I'm doing my civic duty as a juror (which feels like a punishment that is associated with being registered to vote) and its very hot outside (and inside), cut me a little slack....
 

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bbgun;2253373 said:
Forget courtrooms. Have you seen what people are wearing to church these days? It's like they're dressing for Six Flags.

That's true.
 

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This is slightly off topic and hopefully no one will get offended. I live close to the border of Mexico and we get a lot of Mexican nationals who come up here to shop at the Malls.

You have never seen women so dressed up to go shopping. I'm talking sexy dresses, high heels, nylons, all their jewelry, hair, makeup, and lots of perfume. Dressed to the 9's. A very strange cultural phenomenon.

You can pick out the Mexican nationals from the Mexican Americans easy just by how dolled up they get to come shop in America. It is fun to go just to see the outfits.

Some of them are smoking hot too. Easy on the eyes. My friends growing up were amazed that I didn't marry a Mexican girl. I was addicted as a teen. Hell, I was addicted right up until I met my wife.
 

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DallasCowpoke;2254305 said:
~looks down at your sig pic and giggles~


Maybe there is more to him than meets the eye?



j/k couldnt help myself.
 

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Hostile;2253892 said:
This is slightly off topic and hopefully no one will get offended. I live close to the border of Mexico and we get a lot of Mexican nationals who come up here to shop at the Malls.

You have never seen women so dressed up to go shopping. I'm talking sexy dresses, high heels, nylons, all their jewelry, hair, makeup, and lots of perfume. Dressed to the 9's. A very strange cultural phenomenon.

You can pick out the Mexican nationals from the Mexican Americans easy just by how dolled up they get to come shop in America. It is fun to go just to see the outfits.

Some of them are smoking hot too. Easy on the eyes. My friends growing up were amazed that I didn't marry a Mexican girl. I was addicted as a teen. Hell, I was addicted right up until I met my wife.


I know exactly what you mean. I notice it mostly in El Paso.
 

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When I was 17 I got a judge madder then heck at me for wearing a Batman t-shirt to court that had the Joker on it. He was seriously mad.

I was like, "Dude, its just a speeding ticket, calm down" lol.


It was one oft he nicer shirts I had at the time actually.
Judges need to take themselves and their courts less seriously.
It's not always meant to offend them.

This chick may only have hoochie mama clothes.
 

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Hostile;2253892 said:
This is slightly off topic and hopefully no one will get offended. I live close to the border of Mexico and we get a lot of Mexican nationals who come up here to shop at the Malls.

You have never seen women so dressed up to go shopping. I'm talking sexy dresses, high heels, nylons, all their jewelry, hair, makeup, and lots of perfume. Dressed to the 9's. A very strange cultural phenomenon.

You can pick out the Mexican nationals from the Mexican Americans easy just by how dolled up they get to come shop in America. It is fun to go just to see the outfits.

Some of them are smoking hot too. Easy on the eyes. My friends growing up were amazed that I didn't marry a Mexican girl. I was addicted as a teen. Hell, I was addicted right up until I met my wife.

I have pretty much had a thing for Latina girls since about 16.

I go to Puerto Rico and leave every time with near whiplash from turning my head so fast, so often.
 

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theebs;2252332 said:
Quit being such an elitist. You know you have driven over tombstones many times. I mean I have. Everytime I go out for a drive through the local cemetary I hit lots of em.....I mean...there all over...

:laugh2:

But then we would be Eagle fan's......
 

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You guys are missing the point.

I know full well that judges will look at you and treat you differently based on something as silly as how you look. If I was called into court I certainly wouldn't wear shorts or a t-shirt. The point is that the judge, IF HE IS DOING HIS JOB, is not going to be concerned with what someone is wearing. They should be unbiased about how they carry out their work. Facts are material, the rule of law is material. How you dress is not (unless it's relevant to the case somehow). All you guys have been doing is pointing out how judges are arrogant or corrupt and go above what they are supposed to be doing. They aren't doing their jobs well. And people are supposed to respect that??? If the judge expects respect, he better show respect as well. Throwing someone in jail for shorts is a complete lack of respect, and self control, and a complete abuse of authority.

A judge is not better than someone simply because they are a judge. It is their job, they've worked hard to get there, good for them. Doesn't make them better than anyone else who works their tail off at whatever profession they have. You guys seem to give the judge a pass simply because he CAN do what he did, not because he should.


And SB, there are plenty of jobs where dressing in a suit would be completely stupid and make you look like a fool. I'm not talking about Burger King or the circus or something. Good honest jobs.
 
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