Would our GM draft a WR/QB when the defense goes begging?

[GimmeTheBall!]

We desperately need a D overhaul.
Yet something tells me our GM would gamble to further stock our great offense.
Why?
Because he can and now has HOF cred.

 

[DK30]

I expect Jerry will draft OJ Howard in the first round

 

[Sandyf]

Possibly although with McClay, Garrett and Stephen Jones, my bet would be that we stick to our draft board regardless of the position. Seriously doubt that QB or even OL will be in our top 15 or 20 and also doubt that all of WHO we rate in those 20 will be all gone at 28. No team rates players the same and no team ever has had the same rankings as the so called draft site ranking such as NFL.com or CBSSPorts.com or any other.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I expect Jerry will draft OJ Howard in the first round

Not unless we trade up.

Oh...and this thread belongs in the draft zone.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

If the best player by far was a WR when we drafted at 28...we would be wise to take that player instead of reaching for a DE that was not worthy of the 28th pick.

If we go in this draft hell bent on drafting a DE at 28 and we only DEs available that they rank much lower while there is a WR there that they view as a top 1st round talent...they would be dumb to pass on the WR.

We should go back to the three gloves Draft (if people remember that one)
We should go back to drafting Eckuban because he happened to be the best DE available at the time...that did not pan out for us.

After we got D.Ware early in the 2005 draft as our pass rushing OLB for the 3-4 change...They wanted a 3-4 DE (who Jerry talked the tuna out of taking with the first pick) so they took Marcus Spears for need...if they would have drafted the best player available...they would have drafted Aaron Rodgers who was taken four spots later. But they drafted for need and Defense first. Marcus Spears was not an all time bust but neither was he anywhere the player that Rodgers turned out to be.

 

[fredp22]

Jerry can go defense early (Ellis over Moss, Jaylon, Lee, Spencer, Ware and Spears) and I think we will. If not in the first still think the majority of picks will be on that side.
as far as QB, no.why would we unless your talking 7th, FA?

 

[stilltheguru88]

BPA crew shouldn't be mad at drafting a qb if the value is there. That's what they say anyway

 

[IrishAnto]

I have no objection spending a 1-2 pick on anyone we can actually use next year and going forward for the next few years.

That IMO would preclude drafting a QB, RB or TE.

Anything else I can handle.

 

[TNCowboy]

I have no objection spending a 1-2 pick on anyone we can actually use next year and going forward for the next few years.

That IMO would preclude drafting a QB, RB or TE.

Anything else I can handle.

How would we not use a TE next season? Witten is on his last legs.

The Cowboys would be fools to not take OJ Howard if they had an opportunity to take him at 28 or get him with a reasonable trade up.

 

[IrishAnto]

How would we not use a TE next season? Witten is on his last legs.

The Cowboys would be fools to not take OJ Howard if they had an opportunity to take him at 28 or get him with a reasonable trade up.

Is Witten on his last legs?

They said that several seasons ago and guess what?

Witten gets and will get 90% of the looks from the QB on this team and that won't change until he retires.

How many times do we have to make the same mistake before we stop?

When Witten fills in his retirement papers then go draft a TE.

Until then, make a pick that can actually help.

 

[TNCowboy]

Is Witten on his last legs?

They said that several seasons ago and guess what?

Witten gets and will get 90% of the looks from the QB on this team and that won't change until he retires.

How many times do we have to make the same mistake before we stop?

When Witten fills in his retirement papers then go draft a TE.

Until then, make a pick that can actually help.

Witten contemplated retirement this offseason, he's not the player he was just a few years ago, and he's in the last year of his deal.

This is his final season. Regardless, you don't pass up elite talent like Howard just because you have - in NFL terms - an old man at the end of his career. Passing up talents like him is how you wind up with Eb Ekuban and Kavika Pittman as high picks.

If we draft Howard and Garrett doesn't know how to use him, that's a coaching problem, not a personnel issue. Howard's an elite talent who won't be available anyway. But IMO, it's very likely we take someone like Njoku or Butt with one of our top 2 picks. Passing on a difference making talent because you have one more year of Witten would be beyond stupid.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Witten contemplated retirement this offseason, he's not the player he was just a few years ago, and he's in the last year of his deal.

This is his final season. Regardless, you don't pass up elite talent like Howard just because you have - in NFL terms - an old man at the end of his career. Passing up talents like him is how you wind up with Eb Ekuban and Kavika Pittman as high picks.

If we draft Howard and Garrett doesn't know how to use him, that's a coaching problem, not a personnel issue. Howard's an elite talent who won't be available anyway. But IMO, it's very likely we take someone like Njoku or Butt with one of our top 2 picks. Passing on a difference making talent because you have one more year of Witten would be beyond stupid.

Butt is butt. Don't know why y'all keep mentioning him. Even healthy he's a 3rd-4th round talent.

 

[TNCowboy]

Butt is butt. Don't know why y'all keep mentioning him. Even healthy he's a 3rd-4th round talent.

Way off. He was a 1st rounder if healthy. His knee complicates his value. My guess is he'll go 2-3.

 

[xwalker]

Witten contemplated retirement this offseason, he's not the player he was just a few years ago, and he's in the last year of his deal.

This is his final season. Regardless, you don't pass up elite talent like Howard just because you have - in NFL terms - an old man at the end of his career. Passing up talents like him is how you wind up with Eb Ekuban and Kavika Pittman as high picks.

If we draft Howard and Garrett doesn't know how to use him, that's a coaching problem, not a personnel issue. Howard's an elite talent who won't be available anyway. But IMO, it's very likely we take someone like Njoku or Butt with one of our top 2 picks. Passing on a difference making talent because you have one more year of Witten would be beyond stupid.

Witten played 1018 snaps on offense which is 96% of the total offensive snaps.

I don't think he contemplate retirement this upcoming season. The interview that I heard, he talked about not knowing if he would play in 2018.

I'm not against drafting a TE is that is the definite BPA, but I wouldn't count on Garrett reducing Witten's snaps in 2017 and it would not surprise me if Witten was the starter for a few more years considering that Garrett is the HC.

 

[blindzebra]

If the best player by far was a WR when we drafted at 28...we would be wise to take that player instead of reaching for a DE that was not worthy of the 28th pick.

If we go in this draft hell bent on drafting a DE at 28 and we only DEs available that they rank much lower while there is a WR there that they view as a top 1st round talent...they would be dumb to pass on the WR.

We should go back to the three gloves Draft (if people remember that one)
We should go back to drafting Eckuban because he happened to be the best DE available at the time...that did not pan out for us.

After we got D.Ware early in the 2005 draft as our pass rushing OLB for the 3-4 change...They wanted a 3-4 DE (who Jerry talked the tuna out of taking with the first pick) so they took Marcus Spears for need...if they would have drafted the best player available...they would have drafted Aaron Rodgers who was taken four spots later. But they drafted for need and Defense first. Marcus Spears was not an all time bust but neither was he anywhere the player that Rodgers turned out to be.

That was 100% on Parcells. Tuna wanted Spears where we took Ware, you want to talk about a reach. Parcells didn't value QBs so I doubt he'd have drafted Rodgers anyway.

I get your point but that is one time Jerry didn't screw things up, in fact he saved us just not completely.

 

[BAT]

We desperately need a D overhaul.
Yet something tells me our GM would gamble to further stock our great offense.
Why?
Because he can and now has HOF cred.

Depends on moves made prior to draft.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Is Witten on his last legs?

They said that several seasons ago and guess what?

Witten gets and will get 90% of the looks from the QB on this team and that won't change until he retires.

How many times do we have to make the same mistake before we stop?

When Witten fills in his retirement papers then go draft a TE.

Until then, make a pick that can actually help.

He's most definitely on his last legs.

Apparently 673 yards and 3 TDs with a 9.8 YPC is somehow setting the clock back on Father Time.

 

[bodi]

Witten played 1018 snaps on offense which is 96% of the total offensive snaps.

I don't think he contemplate retirement this upcoming season. The interview that I heard, he talked about not knowing if he would play in 2018.

I'm not against drafting a TE is that is the definite BPA, but I wouldn't count on Garrett reducing Witten's snaps in 2017 and it would not surprise me if Witten was the starter for a few more years considering that Garrett is the HC.

that's why I draft this kid in the 6 rd Eric Saubert, TE, 6-5 #250 Drake

reminds me off Witten

 

[gmoney112]

QB? Hah, no.

There's only two first round WR's in this draft and neither will be there.

Howard would make things interesting but I doubt he's there either.

BPA there is going to be on defense so we're good.

 

[IrishAnto]

Witten contemplated retirement this offseason, he's not the player he was just a few years ago, and he's in the last year of his deal.

This is his final season. Regardless, you don't pass up elite talent like Howard just because you have - in NFL terms - an old man at the end of his career. Passing up talents like him is how you wind up with Eb Ekuban and Kavika Pittman as high picks.

If we draft Howard and Garrett doesn't know how to use him, that's a coaching problem, not a personnel issue. Howard's an elite talent who won't be available anyway. But IMO, it's very likely we take someone like Njoku or Butt with one of our top 2 picks. Passing on a difference making talent because you have one more year of Witten would be beyond stupid.

Again show me where they've been able to use another highly drafted TE and I'd agree with you, however you know you can't.

Witten may have spoken about retirement but he'll be back next year and no one will get a look in while he's there.

And yes it probably is a coaching problem but the net effect is the same.

A first/second round pick need to help out next year not in two or more years time.

Repeating the same mistake over and over again is beyond stupid.

Coach Gathers up and see what you've got and maybe we don't need to spend another high pick on a TE.