Would spending the money to Superbowl pay for itself?

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It has already been proven that salary cap can be gamed to create $30 million or even $50 million in space.
This would obviously help add at least 3 premium free agents to the team, particularly for the defense.
Some thinks that the Jones dont want to spend the money? The question is why?

If the 2017-2020 cap can be manipulated for heavy expenditures, then what is the problem?
Some have said the cap will blow up afterwards and that is definitely true.
However, we need to realize that a reload is needed in 3-4 years as Dez retires and Zeke may lose effectiveness.
That is best done by drafting earlier in the 1st round, which means having 1-2 lean years.
Of course, that is 1-2 lean years while maintaining Prescott and the OL.
In fact, one would argue that 1-2 lean years would allow the team to have another 4-5 absolutely dominant years.

So then why not spend like drunk sailors in free agency and restructure until it blows up ~202.
Is it about being profitable?
Though Superbowl teams should make more money, right?
How much revenue can winning the Super Bowl result in?
Intuitively, there would be more jerseys sold.
Is Texas Stadium always sold out?
What other economic benefits would there be?
Anyone know?
 

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It has already been proven that salary cap can be gamed to create $30 million or even $50 million in space.
This would obviously help add at least 3 premium free agents to the team, particularly for the defense.

Let's just stop right there. No it won't.

-We have to extend Martin. Some view him as the top guard in the sport and it won't be cheap.

-Suppose we can "kick the can" enough to free up $30 mil. That money will need to be distributed across a lot of players. We have twenty (20!!!) unrestricted free agents....players we'll either need to fund with new contracts or replace.

Stop the madness, everyone. We aren't going to be signing 3 top tier free agents. Not gonna happen.
 

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Let's just stop right there. No it won't.

-We have to extend Martin. Some view him as the top guard in the sport and it won't be cheap.

-Suppose we can "kick the can" enough to free up $30 mil. That money will need to be distributed across a lot of players. We have twenty (20!!!) unrestricted free agents....players we'll either need to fund with new contracts or replace.

Stop the madness, everyone. We aren't going to be signing 3 top tier free agents. Not gonna happen.

Let me add: Some also view him as a Hall Of Famer right now.
 

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They aren't ignoring FA because they are being cheap. They are ignoring it because they don't feel like the value fits the cost. It's a philosophy shift. Imo it's far too extreme of a shift, but it's better to be on this end of the spectrum than the Dolphins or Eagles end.

They really need to find a middle ground. Build through the draft, be opportunistic in trades and be selective in upper free agency. They don't need to sign high end FAs every year, but ignoring the mid-top tier of FA limits you to basically 1 area to acquire talent. That's fine if you are hitting on 3-4 starters every draft, but have a bad one or only hit on 1 or 2 starters like it usually happens and you just end up with a half put together team year after year, perpetually unable to catch up.
 

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Like Mickey always says, if these guys were any good they wouldn't be free agents :muttley:
 

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It has already been proven that salary cap can be gamed to create $30 million or even $50 million in space.
This would obviously help add at least 3 premium free agents to the team, particularly for the defense.
Some thinks that the Jones dont want to spend the money? The question is why?

Jerry has more money than God. I don't believe for one second he wouldn't spend it to win a Super Bowl. The problem is gaming the cap. Yeah, you might do it for a year or two but you'll pay heavily for it later. You can't restructure forever. If you win a title is it worth it? Probably. But if you don't, you've set yourself back for years.

I'm not in favor of the so-called "all in" approach because it's no guarantee of anything except that you will pay for it later.
 

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"Gaming the cap" in the last put us in the position we are in now with Witten and Romo accounting for 40 million on the cap right now. Sure we have ways to free up money but we also have 20 free agents and I believe I read we have the most money allocated for next season, by far.

If we didn't game the cap so much in the past, we would have had more flexibility with those contracts.

The likely scenario is we fill our roster but a lot of our own free agents and focus on the draft. I'm sure we will bring in some pass rush help but maybe not the guys you want.

For better or worse, our pass rush help will likely come from Tapper, a draft pick or two and maybe. We may bring in a veteran or two on a short term deal with minimal guarantees. Don't be surprised if that doesn't consist of a new, old face with Ware returning.
 

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Jerry has more money than God. I don't believe for one second he wouldn't spend it to win a Super Bowl. The problem is gaming the cap. Yeah, you might do it for a year or two but you'll pay heavily for it later. You can't restructure forever. If you win a title is it worth it? Probably. But if you don't, you've set yourself back for years.

I'm not in favor of the so-called "all in" approach because it's no guarantee of anything except that you will pay for it later.


Correct. Jerry has the money. That is why when free agents come or came here they got monster $ bonus money.

But you can't live on gaming the CAP and pushing off payments. Steven Jones has learned that the hard way from Jerry over spending.
It will set you too far back in player levels of ability.

Unless you hit all your draft picks in those lean years your team is in big trouble.

or your competition shoots themselves - via Chip Kelly.
 

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Let's just stop right there. No it won't.

-We have to extend Martin. Some view him as the top guard in the sport and it won't be cheap.

-Suppose we can "kick the can" enough to free up $30 mil. That money will need to be distributed across a lot of players. We have twenty (20!!!) unrestricted free agents....players we'll either need to fund with new contracts or replace.

Stop the madness, everyone. We aren't going to be signing 3 top tier free agents. Not gonna happen.

I'll settle for two middle-range FAs: a DE and a CB; referably our ( Williams and Carr) own.
 

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Jerry has more money than God. I don't believe for one second he wouldn't spend it to win a Super Bowl. The problem is gaming the cap. Yeah, you might do it for a year or two but you'll pay heavily for it later. You can't restructure forever. If you win a title is it worth it? Probably. But if you don't, you've set yourself back for years.

I'm not in favor of the so-called "all in" approach because it's no guarantee of anything except that you will pay for it later.

I know Jerry has the money and he wants to win. But just curious, would winning the superbowl generate the profits and revenues for gaming the system - assuming the gaming costs about $30 million per year to do the restructure and then flushing some players when it becomes necessary.

Gaming can last more than 1-2 years. It will probably last 4 years, at which time we want to lose to get the high draft picks. But this is a matter of preference.
 

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It has already been proven that salary cap can be gamed to create $30 million or even $50 million in space.
This would obviously help add at least 3 premium free agents to the team, particularly for the defense.
Some thinks that the Jones dont want to spend the money? The question is why?

If the 2017-2020 cap can be manipulated for heavy expenditures, then what is the problem?
Some have said the cap will blow up afterwards and that is definitely true.
However, we need to realize that a reload is needed in 3-4 years as Dez retires and Zeke may lose effectiveness.
That is best done by drafting earlier in the 1st round, which means having 1-2 lean years.
Of course, that is 1-2 lean years while maintaining Prescott and the OL.
In fact, one would argue that 1-2 lean years would allow the team to have another 4-5 absolutely dominant years.

So then why not spend like drunk sailors in free agency and restructure until it blows up ~202.
Is it about being profitable?
Though Superbowl teams should make more money, right?
How much revenue can winning the Super Bowl result in?
Intuitively, there would be more jerseys sold.
Is Texas Stadium always sold out?
What other economic benefits would there be?
Anyone know?

Dez retire in 3 to 4 years, and Zeke loses his effectiveness......you want to have a do over post......because this one just doesn't work....
 

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Dez retire in 3 to 4 years, and Zeke loses his effectiveness......you want to have a do over post......because this one just doesn't work....

What?
Think about how old Dez is and compare to Megatron's career?
What is the typical prime of a NFL RB?
 

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Jerry has more money than God. I don't believe for one second he wouldn't spend it to win a Super Bowl. The problem is gaming the cap. Yeah, you might do it for a year or two but you'll pay heavily for it later. You can't restructure forever. If you win a title is it worth it? Probably. But if you don't, you've set yourself back for years.

I'm not in favor of the so-called "all in" approach because it's no guarantee of anything except that you will pay for it later.
:hammer:
If it wasn't for the cap, Jerry would have already bought several more Superbowls. He has no trouble spending money to make money.
 
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