Would you choose winning a Super Bowl even if it meant 5 lean years after?

[plasticman]

While going all in for 1995 had ripple effects for following declining seasons, I’m not sure it’s a valid argument for 3 decades?

At the very least, it created the perception in Jerry's mind that he was the architect of that SB victory and he based many future poor decisions on the outcome of that season.

He went "all in" for the 2000 season when he gave up two #1 picks for Joey Galloway. That season was the 1st of three consecutive seasons of 5-11

 

[Diehardblues]

At the very least, it created the perception in Jerry's mind that he was the architect of that SB victory and he based many future poor decisions on the outcome of that season.

He went "all in" for the 2000 season when he gave up two #1 picks for Joey Galloway. That season was the 1st of three consecutive seasons of 5-11

Yes, I’d agree implications over to 2000. But not 2024.

I’d argue by Parcells tenure those effects had faded.

 

[Diehardblues]

Problem is that you can't "choose" that.

You can sell out for one year and marginally increase your odds that year. The time to do that, IMO, is *after* you've just won one. You've demonstrated that you're there. Spend again in an attempt to stay there.

"One player away" is more credible on the down side through injury than on the upside of signing a new player.

The Tampa-Brady example wasn't "one player away" because *other* quality players came to play with The Goat (on a well below market value contract) on a team that was credibly close. Hard to recreate that one.

The Jets tried "one player away" with Rodgers last year and his Achilles spontaneously exploded.

True but I think Bob’s point here is :

is our ownership willing to continue treading water around the rim to remain relative than going all in for a championship because are afraid of hitting bottom for several years following.

 

[buybuydandavis]

True but I think Bob’s point here is :

is our ownership willing to continue treading water around the rim to remain relative than going all in for a championship because are afraid of hitting bottom for several years following.

My point is that we weren't in the position for "all in" this year, and certainly aren't now after not making significant improvements in the core free agency period.

 

[jazzcat22]

Yes, give me the SB win.

 

[gtb1943]

YES. It is like putting a starving man on lean rations this last thirty years.

I would want to be able to pig out every five years.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I would choose winning a SB even if it meant a decade of irrelevance. In a heartbeat! Championships are forever. No one remembers or cares if you were close, “around the rim” or the most profitable franchise. Fifty years from now no one will give a rats behind what our cap numbers or TV ratings or the value of the franchise were. Lombardi trophies are what lasts.

How about you? Would you be good with winning a SB even if we were terrible for 5 years afterward?

The problem with this premise is how do you guarantee the SB win. It's arguable that at present we'd be lucky to get to the SB, let alone win it.

 

[Diehardblues]

My point is that we weren't in the position for "all in" this year, and certainly aren't now after not making significant improvements in the core free agency period.

Bobs thought didn’t come off to me as just All In for this season but an overall observation in recent years of this era.

 

[FVSTONE]

I would choose winning a SB even if it meant a decade of irrelevance. In a heartbeat! Championships are forever. No one remembers or cares if you were close, “around the rim” or the most profitable franchise. Fifty years from now no one will give a rats behind what our cap numbers or TV ratings or the value of the franchise were. Lombardi trophies are what lasts.

How about you? Would you be good with winning a SB even if we were terrible for 5 years afterward?

Hey Bobby, I would give back the 1996 SB victory in a NY minute if it meant winning SBs every 5 yrs for the past 3 decades.........LOL!

 

[Ozone22]

Absolutely yes! Way things are going we might have 5 lean years without an SB win.

 

[Chasing6]

I think this is more about doing everything in your power to win a Super Bowl even if it costs you some bad years afterward. I don't think our 30 lean years have anything to do with our three titles, although I guess those did result in the split between Jerry and Jimmy, which was the fall of the franchise (although I don't think Jimmy would have stuck around much longer no matter what).

We should have had 5 in a row.

 

[gtb1943]

We should have had 5 in a row.

Never would have happened; we barely got the last one. The teams depth was almost gone and key parts would have kept leaving in FA. Four in a row was all that was going to happen
Jimmy was not really great at drafting; he had so many picks and he was very familiar with most of the top talent in college at that time. Notice how bad he did with the Fins.

 

[fivetwos]

Never would have happened; we barely got the last one. The teams depth was almost gone and key parts would have kept leaving in FA. Four in a row was all that was going to happen
Jimmy was not really great at drafting; he had so many picks and he was very familiar with most of the top talent in college at that time. Notice how bad he did with the Fins.

He had a lot of picks in Miami as well, and whiffed on plenty, but I wouldn’t call it bad when he got HOFers in the 3rd and 5th rounds, as well as Surtain and Madison.

Miami was one of the top teams in the league just after his departure. Wannstedt wasn’t left with a bare cupboard.

 

[phildadon86]

I would choose winning a SB even if it meant a decade of irrelevance. In a heartbeat! Championships are forever. No one remembers or cares if you were close, “around the rim” or the most profitable franchise. Fifty years from now no one will give a rats behind what our cap numbers or TV ratings or the value of the franchise were. Lombardi trophies are what lasts.

How about you? Would you be good with winning a SB even if we were terrible for 5 years afterward?

Yes.

 

[john van brocklin]

I would choose winning a SB even if it meant a decade of irrelevance. In a heartbeat! Championships are forever. No one remembers or cares if you were close, “around the rim” or the most profitable franchise. Fifty years from now no one will give a rats behind what our cap numbers or TV ratings or the value of the franchise were. Lombardi trophies are what lasts.

How about you? Would you be good with winning a SB even if we were terrible for 5 years afterward?

 

[gtb1943]

He had a lot of picks in Miami as well, and whiffed on plenty, but I wouldn’t call it bad when he got HOFers in the 3rd and 5th rounds, as well as Surtain and Madison.

Miami was one of the top teams in the league just after his departure. Wannstedt wasn’t left with a bare cupboard.

he also had more picks higher in the rds then he had the last two drafts at the Boys.
WHile the cupboard was not bare, it was not really stocked either.

 

[Rayman70]

yes

 

[mattjames2010]

I think I'd want a Super Bowl and still, at least, have entertaining years following. Look at how the Broncos are now - it's going on 10 years of them just being absolutely miserable after one Super Bowl win.

 

[gtb1943]

I think I'd want a Super Bowl and still, at least, have entertaining years following. Look at how the Broncos are now - it's going on 10 years of them just being absolutely miserable after one Super Bowl win.

Elway was very over rared as the GM; that became clear. The GM sets the tone; look at us.

 

[Setackin]

I would choose winning a SB even if it meant a decade of irrelevance. In a heartbeat! Championships are forever. No one remembers or cares if you were close, “around the rim” or the most profitable franchise. Fifty years from now no one will give a rats behind what our cap numbers or TV ratings or the value of the franchise were. Lombardi trophies are what lasts.

How about you? Would you be good with winning a SB even if we were terrible for 5 years afterward?

5 is easy, we’re on 30…