Would you pay 350k to kill a Black Rhino?

[Tabascocat]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/1...id10|htmlws-main-nb|dl7|sec3_lnk4&pLid=429377

This irritates me to no end. There are about 4,000 of these animals left in the world and some want to shoot them for fun. This article suggests that the money will be used for conservation efforts, what an oxymoron. This particular rhino is old and non-breeding, so what? There is no point in killing it.

They already have a tough time with poachers and loss of habitat, so lets go out and help them by shooting another. I hate humans sometimes

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I wouldn't pay 350K to kill anything.

 

[joseephuss]

I wouldn't pay 350K to kill anything.

But I'll gladly accept that as payment to...wait, someone has to be monitoring this.

 

[Longboysfan]

No....

 

[Nova]

I personally wouldn't because I don't have that much money to blow on something like that, and also I just don't find joy in killing.


But it's a loaded issue.

Killing one older male rhino who's no longer able to breed, the club says, will benefit the rest of the herd. That's because older males often remain territorial and sometimes kill younger male rhinos.

I just don't see that as being the god-awful thing that some media outlets are making it out to be. Especially since the money goes toward conservation as well.

Protesters claim that is a farce, but I've seen enough wildlife to know that older males typically do this across all species, so it's not like the Dallas Safari Club is just pulling an excuse to kill a Black Rhino out of their [youknowwhats].

Now if protesters want to claim the intentions of the Dallas Safari Club are a farce (masking conservation efforts with misguided desires) that's a different issue.

But what's it matter? The permit is actually issued by the Namibian Government and...

The Namibian government will closely monitor the hunt, and will only allow for the kill of a single, post-breeding bull.

and they're qualified to do so because...

Traffic, an international wildlife-trade monitoring network, says Namibia has been doing a good job at trying to save black rhinos.

"Traffic believes Namibia has demonstrated a sound conservation policy for its rhinos over the years, and does not oppose Namibia's legitimate execution of its hunting quota," Tom Milliken, head of the elephant and rhino program for Traffic,told Reuters.

source: both from http://mashable.com/2014/01/12/permit-kill-black-rhino/

 

[CashMan]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/12/black-rhino-hunting-permit-auctioned-for-350g-proceeds-will-go-to-conservation/?icid=maing-grid10|htmlws-main-nb|dl7|sec3_lnk4&pLid=429377

This irritates me to no end. There are about 4,000 of these animals left in the world and some want to shoot them for fun. This article suggests that the money will be used for conservation efforts, what an oxymoron. This particular rhino is old and non-breeding, so what? There is no point in killing it.

They already have a tough time with poachers and loss of habitat, so lets go out and help them by shooting another. I hate humans sometimes

I am not for hunting, unless it goes to feed your family. Unless, the Black Rhino is in one of those preserves in the US, where they breed them specifically for this, and that money goes to protect them in the wild, I am not for it.


I know, sometime last year, 60min ran something on a preserve in Texas that had a thriving antelope species that was native to Africa, that was extinct in Africa, and they did something like that.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

You have to be kind of a loser to pay to go some where and shoot a black rhino that appears to be old and out of use and chances are probably confined to a small area.

Kind of defeats the idea of what most people call...Hunting or the title of Hunter.

Of course if you got that kind of money to blow to make yourself feel better about yourself...so be it.

 

[Nova]

You have to be kind of a loser to pay to go some where and shoot a black rhino that appears to be old and out of use and chances are probably confined to a small area.

Kind of defeats the idea of what most people call...Hunting or the title of Hunter.

Of course if you got that kind of money to blow to make yourself feel better about yourself...so be it.

Yeah that would be my only real issue. From a moral standpoint, why pay so much money to shoot an animal that's not hard to kill?

Just like when Melissa Bachman killed a Lion a few weeks or months back (I'm bad with time). She had all the 'right reasons' just like this case, but there's just no sport in killing a Lion.

They are probably the easiest animals to kill because they just don't care about Humans for the most part. They're just like very large house cats. If you approach them in a vehicle, they'll likely use your vehicle for shade and take a nap.

Never understood the exotic animal hunting crowd.

 

[Tabascocat]

That is my problem as well. It doesn't take skill or prowess to shoot it in a confined cage. Killing animals for sport that you can't eat is a waste. If a thinning is needed like gators and wild hogs, so be it.

Take this particular rhino and put him at a zoo, take him to a U.S. safari exhibit, do something different.

 

[Future]

These sponsored "hunts" in Africa are just unbelievably pathetic. Not only are they a waste of money, but they are inhumane and like Dexter just said, require absolutely no skill.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Kind of defeats the idea of what most people call...Hunting or the title of Hunter.

Vegetarian, ... old Indian word meaning, ... "poor hunter."

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Not just no, but #### no.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Next week, Dallas Safari Club, is auctioning off spots from The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza.

Three lucky winners get to take turns, firing 3 shots w/ a 6.5 mm Carcano Model 91/38 carbine replica, at a 1961 Lincoln Continental 4-door convertible limo, with a JFK lookalike mannequin strategically placed , as it traces the exact final 1 1/2-block route taken that fateful day, 50 years ago this year.

Good luck bidders!

 

[daschoo]

I don't get the idea behind it at all. I understand the appeal of hunting when it comes to getting out in the wilderness, tracking and then eating your kill but why anyone would want to kill a rhino is beyond me.

 

[jobberone]

This thread is ripe for political statements. Don't get political please.

My 2 cts. I wouldn't pay a plug nickel for this but IF the money goes to protect Black Rhinos (which require at least two guards 24x7x365 for each animal) then I'm happy to see that much money go to conservation efforts as long as the kill is as humane as possible. The animal in question is going to die and apparently is at he end of his life. What that person does with the trophy is irrelevant to the conservation effort. I don't know how many teams they have but it requires a lot of officers to patrol for poachers and remove snares and such on a continual basis as well as guard the rhinos. It's not just the protection of the rhinos that is necessary.

 

[CowboyWay]

Did you know the Black Rhino in question isn't expected to live but a few more months? And the money goes to create a better habitat AND to funding to catch poachers?

This is a no brainer. Shoot it. They should do more of these auctions.

 

[Tabascocat]

Did you know the Black Rhino in question isn't expected to live but a few more months? And the money goes to create a better habitat AND to funding to catch poachers?

This is a no brainer. Shoot it. They should do more of these auctions.

Did you know this sets a bad precedence to others as well? Some others might look at this and say "hey, they shot one, why can't I?" The public shooting of one rhino isn't going to alter their protection one way or the other. Whatever amount they got, once divided up and how much actually goes to this, is negligible in the grand scheme of things, it will not sway the poachers one bit. Their habitat is lost because of man and there is no way to re-create it. Sure, they could possibly be relocated but their threat still remains.

How would you feel if your life was auctioned off in old age because your worth no longer exists? Put you in a cage and some hunter opens fire............

Put this rhino in a close-contact exhibit, charge people to feed and/or pet him, take pictures, whatever and use that money instead of putting on a show/bad example of killing it. Most likely, it will not be humane because it will not be killed with one shot, this is a large animal with extremely thick skin.....it will suffer.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Or the rhino itself is thinking, .. "I am the almighty black Rhino, all powerful and dominant, .. and they are going to put me in a cage and let kids feed me corn from their hand."

"Are you kidding me?"

"Someone please just put a bullet in my head now."



<just kidding>

 

[CowboyWay]

Did you know this sets a bad precedence to others as well? Some others might look at this and say "hey, they shot one, why can't I?" The public shooting of one rhino isn't going to alter their protection one way or the other. Whatever amount they got, once divided up and how much actually goes to this, is negligible in the grand scheme of things, it will not sway the poachers one bit. Their habitat is lost because of man and there is no way to re-create it. Sure, they could possibly be relocated but their threat still remains.

How would you feel if your life was auctioned off in old age because your worth no longer exists? Put you in a cage and some hunter opens fire............

Put this rhino in a close-contact exhibit, charge people to feed and/or pet him, take pictures, whatever and use that money instead of putting on a show/bad example of killing it. Most likely, it will not be humane because it will not be killed with one shot, this is a large animal with extremely thick skin.....it will suffer.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Here...read this. Learn something.

http://www.***BANNED-URL***/opinion...n-keith-the-real-sin-in-the-rhino-auction.ece

 

[Future]

Did you know the Black Rhino in question isn't expected to live but a few more months? And the money goes to create a better habitat AND to funding to catch poachers?

This is a no brainer. Shoot it. They should do more of these auctions.

I agree...

Might seem a bit contradictory to my last post, but in this case, I don't think it could really hurt anything.

This does walk a fine line between what is humanitarian, and what isn't, though.