Would you say that the Cowboys offense on paper is as good as the SB Champions of the 90s?

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Would you say that the Cowboys offense on paper is as good as the SB Champions of the 90s?

Game is not played on paper. 90's champs imposed their will on offense. I would need to see something like that.
 

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Maybe if you compare it to the late nineties when Aikman back was achin and Irvin was slowing down.
 

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I love AIkman, and his Super Bowl wins got him into the Hall of Fame and he is deserving, BUT considering the fact that we were such a dominant offensive team, his numbers are mediocre. He is considered to have been an amazingly accurate passer, yet he only had three seasons with more than a 2-1 TD to interception rating, which I find almost hard to believe. He had 4 seasons with more int's than TD's. It is sometimes hard to look at these numbers and see anything elite, but to watch him play and especially how he elevated his game when it meant the most (17-4 TD to int in the three SB wins) he was definitely elite. I know they say he could have put up the numbers Marino did if he was in that style of offense but you really never know.

I think you have to context this. That Offense ran the ball a lot. Red Zone situations were overwhelmingly run heavy so a lot of potential TDs went to Emmitt and not Troy. Conversely, in that timing offense, it was so important to have WRs running the right routes at the right time and in exactly the proper position on the field. Aikman always had the ball at exactly the right place in his good years but the problem was that once we lost Jimmy and Norv and Irvin and Novacek, the continuity and the timing went out the window. That lead to a lot of turnovers IMO. Troy was still very accurate with the ball because in that Offense, the ball can be thrown perfectly but it might still look like a poor throw if the receivers are not exactly in the right spot.
Witten is one of the best TE's of all time, and Novacek was great but not the talent Witten is.

I think Witten is/was better overall but Novacek was a much better athlete and he was much more of a down field threat then Jay is.


The OL....we could arguably pick this OL....Martin, Frederick and Smith are among the top 3 at their positions right now, Free is a solid vet and Collins is a rising star. Those 90's teams had better depth IMO.


This I don't agree with. I think that in a few years, this might be a much better discussion but here and now, no way IMO, is this OL better then those OLs. JMO
 

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The power of nostalgia is very much in effect here in this thread. The offense of the 90's that was backed up by a top 3, 2, and 1 defense has certain spots that are better than this team. Qb is not one. Troy is not the qb romo is period. Playoff wins and rings be damned (team sport). People love to say that "Troy COULD have put the numbers up if he had to." Well hell Romo COULD have three rings right now if he had played on that broken team. Troy was nowhere near the top qb in the league during his run. The o-lines are very close, and both are considered to be the best in their era. Emmitt is a runaway, seeing as how we have a rookie rb. Irvin has better hands than Dez but Dez is faster and more athletic. Still might give the edge to Irvin. The main man Witten is better than Jay. So i would say the two offenses are very comparable.
 

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Witten is not better today than Novacek was then. Better over his career but not today.

This is a good question but I have to give the nod to proven greatness in Aikman, Emmitt and Irvin.

Fans....and even worse, the organization....do not hold Witten accountable. I don't care about stats or numbers. My eye test tells me Witten needed to share snaps with some of the young guns we have brought in over the years...and he simply doesn't. Cannot understand for the LIFE of me why we continued to use a 2nd round pick on a position where the starter never comes off the field...or is never FORCED to give up some snaps. Does not mean he is done...but he is done being a guy getting 99% of the snaps. Makes ZERO football sense not get more explosive players on the field from time to time.
 

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That the Cowboys offense - on paper - with all it's parts. 2016 edition.
Are as good as the Super Bowl Champions of the 90's offenses.

not Hardly

OL PUSH
Emmit .> Zeke
Troy > Romo
Irwin > Dez
Moose > than whomever
Harper > Williams
Novacec < Whitten
 

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That the Cowboys offense - on paper - with all it's parts. 2016 edition.
Are as good as the Super Bowl Champions of the 90's offenses.

Aikman beats Romo
Smith beats Zeke
Irvin and Dez are equal
Harper over Williams
Witten is better than Jay
Moose is better than whoever we put out there
Smith is better than Tui
Allen is better than Collins
Fred is better than Step
Martin is better than Nate
Williams is better than Free

90's win 6
2016 wins 4
and 1 tie that is debatable.

In my opinion.
 

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If you take team success and chemistry out of the equation, I think that the two generations are pretty comparable.

If everyone stays healthy, I think this year's offensive unit could play a whole lot like the early 90's teams did.

In a perfect world, on pure talent alone:

  • Romo can single-handedly win a game; Troy wasn't ever really asked to do as much as Romo is expected to do
  • If this O-Line gels, I would think they can perform very close to the level those 90's lines did
  • Don't kill me for this, but I think in the WR#2 role, Williams is on par with Harper. If he catches the damn ball, his speed and explosiveness is a major weapon. Just don't ask him to be more than he is.
  • Elliott is of course not on Emmitt's level, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for him to have 1,400 yards rushing and catch 40+ balls
  • Irvin>>>>Dez. All day. I can't spin it any other way
  • Witten isn't nearly as good as he once was, but 'ol Reliable can still get it done. If we can only teach him to run PAST the sticks before he turns around for the ball
  • I think an overlooked element to this offense is Beasley. He and Romo really started to have a connection, especially in 2014. I think he's a better option Kevin Williams was.

But then again, those 90's teams were a TEAM. Each part complimented the other and worked in unison. And the 90's generation had intangibles (like Irvin's leadership, and Troy demanded respect). Today's group is more just an assembly of talent, and we have no idea how it will all mesh.

I think we are looking for leadership on both sides of the ball...as too be the vocal type guy but also can back it up on the field. Like Irvin did. Gets the team and players fired up.
Dez tries it as times, but the media puts it as a tantrum.
 

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Our offensive scheme is - Romo go make a miracle happen on 2, ready break.

Garrett's been hanging on to those coat tails for almost a decade now.

Look no further than LAST year. We could not get A FIRST DOWN quite often. That is just unheard of with todays rules. We won a playoff game without Troy! We won a Super Bowl with Barry Switzer! Heck we came close to winning 2 Super Bowls with Barry Switzer! This franchise is more broken than people realize....especially compared to the 90s.
 

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Whoa...tap them breaks and pull them reigns. Zeke has not run 1 yard professionally and Romo not proven totally healthy so comparing this to the offense of the early 90's?
That early 90's offense was a machine. This offense lost it's timing last year (of course from losing Romo) but they didn't look good out of the gait either. Dez (also crippled last year) had a very poor year coming back too.
I think this offense needs some major consistency to even consider comparing the two.
Just sayin.
 

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That the Cowboys offense - on paper - with all it's parts. 2016 edition.
Are as good as the Super Bowl Champions of the 90's offenses.

On paper yes the talent is there. Coaching and organizational accountability is the BIG difference.
 

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Have to be kidding. Romo is Now the old Aikman not the early 90s troy. Dez is coming off injury that may really hinder him. Everyone else are just guys at the wr spot. Wit is better than Jay. The line is hoping to be what they were back then. RB has better depth right now. Coaching is not close.
 

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The biggest problem is Romo may be fragile - nothing like the Aikman of 92-96 window.

Aikman > Frail Romo
Current OL slightly better than 90's OL
Smith>Zeke
Irvin ~ Dez
Harper > Williams
Novacek ~ Witten
Moose > ?
 
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