Would you say that the Cowboys offense on paper is as good as the SB Champions of the 90s?

[fortdick]

That the Cowboys offense - on paper - with all it's parts. 2016 edition.
Are as good as the Super Bowl Champions of the 90's offenses.

No

 

[plymkr]

Yeah, Romo is much better than a three time winning Super Bowl QB that happens to be in the HOF. Much better.

I don't think we can say with clear definition that Aikman is better than Romo or vice versa. One thing I feel we all can agree on is if Romo played with the 90's Cowboys Romo would have super bowl victories as well.

These 2 QBs are hard to compare because of their different styles. Aikman was a timing QB and he ran the timing based offense to perfection. But if that timing got disrupted Aikman struggled to move the ball. Aikman's accuracy was unwordly. Leadership was impeccable and never accepting defeat was his strength. Romo has other strengths. Here's my take on the 2 based on each category.

Leadership: tie, Aikman was a in your face, demanding perfection type of leader. Romo is a guy that other people rally around. Again different style of leader, so a toss up

Arm strength : Aikman
Accuracy: Aikman
Playmaker: Romo, Romo is better at making something out of nothing
Decision making: Aikman, he rarely made poor decisions with the ball.
Scrambling: Romo
Managing a game : Aikman
2 minute drill: Romo
Getting along with coaches: who knows, Romo has never had a coach, so Aikman.
Getting along with team mates: toss up.
Making more out of a less talented supprting cast: Romo by far in this category. Troy would have struggled with some of teams Romo has been stuck with.

So my overall point is I feel the two are a toss up as far as who is better. They have different strengths and weaknesses. Troy played for one of the best ever coaches in the history of the NFL behind one of the best ever offensive lines in the history of the NFL and with the best ever RB in NFL history as well as one of the best WR in NFL history. Romo has played with Garret, felix jones and Marion barber, miles Austin and Terrell Owens and until 2012-present below average offensive lines.

When Romo had the oline, the history making Murray and the stud WR in 2014 he had the best statistical year if his career, led all QB in QB rating and arguably was robbed a victory in Green Bay cuz of the catch that was reversed.
Too hard to say with absolute certainty that one is better than the other.

 

[plymkr]

Romo is not the leader or passer that Troy was. In Modern times Troy would be a Tom Brady type of QB. I like Romo, but I don't think he was a better QB than Danny White.

I respectfully disagree with Danny White being better than Romo. I've watched them both play and I give the nod to Romo.

Dallas' best three QBs are Staubach, Aikman and Romo. We can debate what order they fall into but White was not in the top 3. White was good, no disrespect to his skills or what he did for the franchise but he's no Tony Romo.

 

[JoeKing]

Hell no! Stop disrespecting our teams of the 90's that got it done. This team just went 4-12 and now you are asking if it's better than our 90's teams... lol, seriously?

 

[JoeKing]

I don't think we can say with clear definition that Aikman is better than Romo or vice versa. One thing I feel we all can agree on is if Romo played with the 90's Cowboys Romo would have super bowl victories as well.

These 2 QBs are hard to compare because of their different styles. Aikman was a timing QB and he ran the timing based offense to perfection. But if that timing got disrupted Aikman struggled to move the ball. Aikman's accuracy was unwordly. Leadership was impeccable and never accepting defeat was his strength. Romo has other strengths. Here's my take on the 2 based on each category.

Leadership: tie, Aikman was a in your face, demanding perfection type of leader. Romo is a guy that other people rally around. Again different style of leader, so a toss up

Arm strength : Aikman
Accuracy: Aikman
Playmaker: Romo, Romo is better at making something out of nothing
Decision making: Aikman, he rarely made poor decisions with the ball.
Scrambling: Romo
Managing a game : Aikman
2 minute drill: Romo
Getting along with coaches: who knows, Romo has never had a coach, so Aikman.
Getting along with team mates: toss up.
Making more out of a less talented supprting cast: Romo by far in this category. Troy would have struggled with some of teams Romo has been stuck with.

So my overall point is I feel the two are a toss up as far as who is better. They have different strengths and weaknesses. Troy played for one of the best ever coaches in the history of the NFL behind one of the best ever offensive lines in the history of the NFL and with the best ever RB in NFL history as well as one of the best WR in NFL history. Romo has played with Garret, felix jones and Marion barber, miles Austin and Terrell Owens and until 2012-present below average offensive lines.

When Romo had the oline, the history making Murray and the stud WR in 2014 he had the best statistical year if his career, led all QB in QB rating and arguably was robbed a victory in Green Bay cuz of the catch that was reversed.
Too hard to say with absolute certainty that one is better than the other.

90's team trophies and rings says you're dead wrong by a mile. Bragging on this current squad is just baseless hubris.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Accuracy: Aikman.

Regular season. Romo.

Romo Career Cmp. % - 65.3%
Aikman Career Cmp % - 61.5 %

 

[Bleu Star]

No, not yet.

Aikman > Romo
Irvin > Dez
Emmitt > Ezekiel
Novacek < Witten
90s offensive line > Current offensive line

We need some skins in the playoffs before I say this offense is as good as the 90s version.

I'm right there with you bro. Go out and prove your worth.

 

[Gameover]

How much of Aikman's rating was a product of his earlier years? Aikman was the Cowboys offense until 1992 when the team started to make a turn around.

Ha?

 

[LocimusPrime]

90s team would smoke them. They have the edge in all the intangibles. Clutch, been to the Super Bowl,have leaders all over the place, killer instinct ect. Imo, the 90s Cowboys where just plain nastier/ meaner.

Talent wise 90s Cowboys have the edge at every skill position.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

90s team would smoke them. They have the edge in all the intangibles. Clutch, been to the Super Bowl,have leaders all over the place, killer instinct ect. Imo, the 90s Cowboys where just plain nastier/ meaner.

Talent wise 90s Cowboys have the edge at every skill position.

Sure on d and rb.

 

[plymkr]

Regular season. Romo.

Romo Career Cmp. % - 65.3%
Aikman Career Cmp % - 61.5 %

No kidding? I'm pretty surprised by this stat. Thanks for showing it to me.

 

[plymkr]

90's team trophies and rings says you're dead wrong by a mile. Bragging on this current squad is just baseless hubris.

I don't understand your premise. I'm saying that Romo and Aikman are different types of quarterbacks with different skill sets. I think your disagreement of my post actually reinforces my point. Romo has never played on a team as talented as the early 90's team. If he did he would have the rings. Picture Romo with a top 3 defense and that offensive line with the greatest RB to ever play the game and Irvin and Harper to throw it to.

The 90's team trophies and rings have more to say about how well the orginization was drafting and building a team but it doesn't say that my point of Aikman and Romo are different types of QBs is off by a mile.

I'm not dissing Aikman by any means, I just feel Romo and Aikman are very difficult to compare due to their playing styles and personality differences.

But I want to make this very clear. No Aikman and there's no Super Bowls for Dallas in the 90's. Troy Aikman is the man, no doubt in my mind. I love me some Aikman but I also love me some Romo. 2 great QBs.

I appreciate both men for their talents and what they've done for the franchise. I feel Romo has been robbed by "a coach in training" and some poor drafting and FO decisions and Cowboy fans will not truly appreciate how good he is until he's retired.

 

[Mactin]

What the Cowboys of the 90s along with the offense was the defense that they had. It was great and top five which I can't say the same the current one.

 

[Bullflop]

Our offenses of the 90's were consistent enough maintaining offensive drives, despite playing what was often considered elite defenses. This can't be said of the offenses of today. The health issues of both Romo and Dez have been problematical with nobody to fill in adequately.

Of course, the offenses of the past had much more capable defenses to forgive their missteps and to be fair, the overall team was fairly more talented, imo. Our receivers back then were just more consistent overall since their route running was far more reliable than what we have today.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

One of the greatest teams in NFL history over a team that just came off a 4-12 season. We had backups on that 90's squad that could have started for this team. This team has no dept at all.

 

[iceberg]

That the Cowboys offense - on paper - with all it's parts. 2016 edition.
Are as good as the Super Bowl Champions of the 90's offenses.

no.

to be as good as would be to win as they did. i do believe our OL is on the edge of greatness and *that* can help but key factors have to fall into place.

1) romo has to be healthy all year OR dak has to light it up. moore is just gonna pass time since he can't really pass a football.
2) zeke just has to be zeke. behind this OL expectations are high and for good reason. anything less than a candidate for rookie of the year will be considered a fail by many, and by all who didn't want to draft him anyway.
3) dez has to do what dez has yet to be able to do. put a solid year together about the team. he has bits and pieces and you see them from time to time which give you hope cause the man is damn good. but for the love of flung poo, leave the monkey at home.
4) jason is getting older and while he will always be an all time favorite and never go w/o a lunch - expectations of past performance relived are not likely to be fulfilled, so we have to hope escobar steps up also.
5) we had a FB then. we don't these days. hell no one does really do they? between them and 22lr rounds, these are a few of the things hard to find in the world today.

so you're comparing this to emmett, troy and irvin. all three of these came into a solid OL to begin with and came in together. regardless of what happens from this point forward there are no triplets again. romo will go in a year or two and *someone* will take over. dez will be on the backside of his career and likely still wondering why people give a **** about his monkey. romo for as good as i honestly believe he is, has never been an aikman in that he will get in your face and MAKE you play better.

so no. not at all.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Please explain what "On Paper" means.

Does it mean pretend because there is nothing to support a run-off election like this?

How about three championships. Closing the deal is what makes a team. And before you tell me about the defense, did you actually watch them and their bend don't break defense?

The answer is show me three rings then let's talk.

 

[iceberg]

Please explain what "On Paper" means.

Does it mean pretend because there is nothing to support a run-off election like this?

How about three championships. Closing the deal is what makes a team. And before you tell me about the defense, did you actually watch them and their bend don't break defense?

The answer is show me three rings then let's talk.

"on paper" simply means - i believe - does the potential of what we have match what we had then?

hell to the **** no doesn't seem to be strong enough to me.

 

[JoeKing]

I don't understand your premise. I'm saying that Romo and Aikman are different types of quarterbacks with different skill sets. I think your disagreement of my post actually reinforces my point. Romo has never played on a team as talented as the early 90's team. If he did he would have the rings. Picture Romo with a top 3 defense and that offensive line with the greatest RB to ever play the game and Irvin and Harper to throw it to.

The 90's team trophies and rings have more to say about how well the orginization was drafting and building a team but it doesn't say that my point of Aikman and Romo are different types of QBs is off by a mile.

I'm not dissing Aikman by any means, I just feel Romo and Aikman are very difficult to compare due to their playing styles and personality differences.

But I want to make this very clear. No Aikman and there's no Super Bowls for Dallas in the 90's. Troy Aikman is the man, no doubt in my mind. I love me some Aikman but I also love me some Romo. 2 great QBs.

I appreciate both men for their talents and what they've done for the franchise. I feel Romo has been robbed by "a coach in training" and some poor drafting and FO decisions and Cowboy fans will not truly appreciate how good he is until he's retired.

Your premise is unprovable and unknowable. I share your love for Romo. He gives me hope for the current squad. Even though he has not yet taken the team to the Super Bowl, I believe he is of that caliber.

The 90's Cowboys were special. They were at the peak of greatness. IMO, it is disrespectful to those great teams to say anything about todays squad compares or exceeds that of those great teams.

 

[DTown214]

The only one I can say is better is Witten.
Dez will never be Michael
Z no way over E
Romo may pass Aikman.
Line a push right now.

I'd say Dez is a better football player than Mike. He just isn't the leader that Irvin was.