Would you trade for Det Roy Williams?

[tommyboy10]

I don't know that I would make that trade.

He has been listed in the injury report multiple times for knee, ankle, quadricep, shoulder/neck, back and hamstring. Granted he didn't miss time with all of them, but the fact that his name would show up so often is a red flag.

He is going to want to be payed very well when his new contract is due and like Fuzzy said, why spend a pick on someone that will probably hit the market next year anyway?

I can't help but feel I would rather gamble on Javon Walker (who shows up on injury reports just as much) because the the market appears to be pushing his value down. We could always spend a pick on a rookie WR to hedge our bets and all told still come in under the salary it would take to sign Roy.

Are you kidding. Tom Brady was on that same report every week. See how much time he missed. Same with Plaxico.

A healthy Walker would be great, but of the two choices, I'd give up the pick and take RW.

 

[Hostile]

Absolutely. I want to win it all and I think he gets us closer than a Draft pick could.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Are you kidding. Tom Brady was on that same report every week. See how much time he missed. Same with Plaxico.

A healthy Walker would be great, but of the two choices, I'd give up the pick and take RW.

Tom Brady hasn't missed a single game over the last 4 years, let alone 9 games like Roy Williams, who has started all 16 games once in his NFL career.

 

[tommyboy10]

Tom Brady hasn't missed a single game over the last 4 years, let alone 9 games like Roy Williams, who has started all 16 games once in his NFL career.

Agreed, however, I was just referring to the validity sometimes of the injury report. It is more of a strategic ploy than valid information depending on the team.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Agreed, however, I was just referring to the validity sometimes of the injury report. It is more of a strategic ploy than valid information depending on the team.

I could understand if it was like Brady where they had him listed every week for the same dummy injury but never missed any time, but to be listed for a whole slew of injuries and then miss time almost every year.....that little flag just goes up for me. At least with Walker, who has played a full 16 game season for 3 years and a rookie WR, you would have a couple guys on the cheap. Roy Williams is always an option next year if he hits the market.

 

[tommyboy10]

I could understand if it was like Brady where they had him listed every week for the same dummy injury but never missed any time, but to be listed for a whole slew of injuries and then miss time almost every year.....that little flag just goes up for me. At least with Walker, who has played a full 16 game season for 3 years and a rookie WR, you would have a couple guys on the cheap. Roy Williams is always an option next year if he hits the market.

that's fair

 

[BAT]

Yes, if necessary.


Would rather get him for our 2nd and Spears though.

 

[theogt]

Absolutely, without a doubt.

 

[zack]

Give up #28 for Roy Williams, the WR, not the old, slow one we already have?

No, are you kidding me? He now has the Lions losing ways in him that can't be beaten out of him. Plus he does tip the Pizza guy!

 

[montgod]

The Lions have made it clear they don't plan to move Roy, that they want to see what Calvin and Roy can do on the same field.

So the point is moot.

This is also what I heard. They are only willing to give up McDonald, which is what we already have in Crayton.

Next subject... nothing going on here.

 

[tommyboy10]

This is also what I heard. They are only willing to give up McDonald, which is what we already have in Crayton.

Next subject... nothing going on here.

again...we are not GM's for the DC. We are fans. This is a forum. If we want to chit chat about what ifs, we can. If you'd rather not, that's perfectly ok, just click the next screen and move on. Don't fault people for dreaming...lol...of course it will not happen, but it gets us thinking as fans and armchair owners and GM's about what we could do to better this team.

What's so wrong with that?

Sorry, I must be in a defensive mood tonight )

 

[montgod]

again...we are not GM's for the DC. We are fans. This is a forum. If we want to chit chat about what ifs, we can. If you'd rather not, that's perfectly ok, just click the next screen and move on. Don't fault people for dreaming...lol...of course it will not happen, but it gets us thinking as fans and armchair owners and GM's about what we could do to better this team.

What's so wrong with that?

Sorry, I must be in a defensive mood tonight )

Well... I didn't mean to tell you not to chit chat about it. Go ahead. It just seems that lately... there are re-treads after re-treads about subjects that we have gone over.

The Roy Williams threads pretty much died after Detroit publicly stated they were not going to trade him, but it is that time of year where not much is going on... so don't mind me, continue to day dream until we get to draft time.

If you are going to day dream though, I would have thought a better wr might come to mind... like maybe Fitz or Houz... or somebody like that instead of Roy Williams

 

[khiladi]

Tom Brady hasn't missed a single game over the last 4 years, let alone 9 games like Roy Williams, who has started all 16 games once in his NFL career.

Tom Brady's games were relevant, while the majority of seasons for Roy were not. Last year, he basically took the year off when they were out of the play-off picture.

I'd do the trade in a heart-beat...

And Detroit is going to lose him next year anyways... They know they have to get something for him, otherwise they will get nothing...

 

[tommyboy10]

Well... I didn't mean to tell you not to chit chat about it. Go ahead. It just seems that lately... there are re-treads after re-treads about subjects that we have gone over.

The Roy Williams threads pretty much died after Detroit publicly stated they were not going to trade him, but it is that time of year where not much is going on... so don't mind me, continue to day dream until we get to draft time.

If you are going to day dream though, I would have thought a better wr might come to mind... like maybe Fitz or Houz... or somebody like that instead of Roy Williams

I try to keep even my dreams in check...lol

and as I previously stated, I haven't been on in a while for those other threads of this discussion...my bad

 

[TtownCowboy]

Question is how does he rate to this years crop of WRs? I don't follow college enough to say if this draft is heavy talent wise in the WR dept. If not I say take the gamble. Also, if there is no doubt he has no interest in signing w/the Lions when his contract is up they'd be crazy not to field offers. Of course this is Matt Millen.

 

[tommyboy10]

Question is how does he rate to this years crop of WRs? I don't follow college enough to say if this draft is heavy talent wise in the WR dept. If not I say take the gamble. Also, if there is no doubt he has no interest in signing w/the Lions when his contract is up they'd be crazy not to field offers. Of course this is Matt Millen.

true...great point, and I agree....Millen will once again be the biggest loser once this is all said and done! might as well get something for him from someone in the meantime, right!

 

[Spectre]

Are you freaking ghey! :laugh2:
(stupid cowboy fan)

Seeing as how I pronounced the addition of cheerleaders a good thing...
you sound more like a pot calling the kettle black.

 

[tommyboy10]

Seeing as how I pronounced the addition of cheerleaders a good thing...
you sound more like a pot calling the kettle black.

I kind of wondered about that whole thing earlier, but decided to let it go.

LOL

 

[dallasfaniac]

... They know they have to get something for him, otherwise they will get nothing...

It's one thing to try trading someone rather than cutting them, it's another to trade someone just because they will be a free agent the next year. Every team has to go into the season thinking 'this could be the year'. The Lions were 7-9 last year with players being hurt and have added Bodden, Smith and got rid of Rogers in the process. The way Millen drafts, they would be better off with Roy Williams talent for one year than the player they draft that will be out of the league in 2.

 

[tommyboy10]

It's one thing to try trading someone rather than cutting them, it's another to trade someone just because they will be a free agent the next year. Every team has to go into the season thinking 'this could be the year'. The Lions were 7-9 last year with players being hurt and have added Bodden, Smith and got rid of Rogers in the process. The way Millen drafts, they would be better off with Roy Williams talent for one year than the player they draft that will be out of the league in 2.

sad for Millen, but true