Would you trade for Det Roy Williams?

Yes. My second scenario is a CB in round 1 and trade the other pick for a WR. Roy Williams is at the top of my list. The guy has always just reminded me of Irvin. He needs to be a Cowboy if we can make it happen.
 
Yes, I would trade for williams and still look for wr in the draft in a later round if we gave up #28. He is very good and paired up with Owens would be a good combo. I would love for us to use #22 on Rogers-Cromarte if he lasts that long then maybe get a rb in the 2nd round such as Charles from Texas. He would be a great speed back to pair up with Barber...
 
tommyboy10;1983078 said:
Give up #28 for Roy Williams, the WR, not the old, slow one we already have?

Would you trade a ten dollar bill for a twenty? Allday, everyday...

hello championship.
 
khiladi;1983485 said:
Tom Brady's games were relevant, while the majority of seasons for Roy were not. Last year, he basically took the year off when they were out of the play-off picture.

I'd do the trade in a heart-beat...

And Detroit is going to lose him next year anyways... They know they have to get something for him, otherwise they will get nothing...

How can you sit there and admit that he gave up on his team and not think thats an issue?
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1983734 said:
How can you sit there and admit that he gave up on his team and not think thats an issue?
Where did he say it's not an issue?
 
I must really say I am baffled that a board where the major consensus was that signing Moss would be cost prohibitive thinks that a less talented and more injury prone receiver is acceptable. There are so many points that make this deal for a first a bad idea.

1) He will be a UFA next year so basically you are trading a year of RW for a first round draft pick. He wants to come to Texas.
2) He is asking for $8 mil a year but more than likely would be agreeable to $7mil per but even at that rate we still have contracts of Newman and Ware coming up.
3) The Lions are asking for anywhere from a reported first to a second to saying hes not on the block. Offering him top dollar given that is just dumb.
4) He has been injured 3 out of the four years hes been in the league. Injury prone players tend to remain injury prone. heck he even ended last year on the injury list which constitutes damaged goods.
5) He gave up on his team last year at the end and by all accounts was very difficult to motivate. I don't see how giving him a huge contract will help that very much.


Yet despite this we get thread after thread about how we should give up first rounders for this guy but a guy like Fitzgerald who is twice the player RW is doesnt get nearly the attention.

Oh and theo you need to learn I am not responding to your drivel anymore.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1983747 said:
I must really say I am baffled that a board where the major consensus was that signing Moss would be cost prohibitive thinks that a less talented and more injury prone receiver is acceptable. There are so many points that make this deal for a first a bad idea.

1) He will be a UFA next year so basically you are trading a year of RW for a first round draft pick. He wants to come to Texas.
2) He is asking for $8 mil a year but more than likely would be agreeable to $7mil per but even at that rate we still have contracts of Newman and Ware coming up.
3) The Lions are asking for anywhere from a reported first to a second to saying hes not on the block. Offering him top dollar given that is just dumb.
4) He has been injured 3 out of the four years hes been in the league. Injury prone players tend to remain injury prone. heck he even ended last year on the injury list which constitutes damaged goods.
5) He gave up on his team last year at the end and by all accounts was very difficult to motivate. I don't see how giving him a huge contract will help that very much.


Yet despite this we get thread after thread about how we should give up first rounders for this guy but a guy like Fitzgerald who is twice the player RW is doesnt get nearly the attention.

Oh and theo you need to learn I am not responding to your drivel anymore.
Yes, I'm sure you're baffled that only an extreme minority of people agree with you. This is about as big a no-brainer as it gets and you being against it pretty much confirms that.
 
This message is hidden because theogt is on your ignore list.

The bandwagon fallacy was it for me. Go troll someone else with your childish behavior.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1983753 said:
This message is hidden because theogt is on your ignore list.

The bandwagon fallacy was it for me. Go troll someone else with your childish behavior.
LOL. What a doofus.

$10 says you just removed me from ignore to see what I typed in this post.
 
theogt;1983757 said:
LOL. What a doofus.

$10 says you just removed me from ignore to see what I typed in this post.

:laugh2: ............. and probably true.
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1983747 said:
I must really say I am baffled that a board where the major consensus was that signing Moss would be cost prohibitive thinks that a less talented and more injury prone receiver is acceptable. There are so many points that make this deal for a first a bad idea.

1) He will be a UFA next year so basically you are trading a year of RW for a first round draft pick. He wants to come to Texas.
2) He is asking for $8 mil a year but more than likely would be agreeable to $7mil per but even at that rate we still have contracts of Newman and Ware coming up.
3) The Lions are asking for anywhere from a reported first to a second to saying hes not on the block. Offering him top dollar given that is just dumb.
4) He has been injured 3 out of the four years hes been in the league. Injury prone players tend to remain injury prone. heck he even ended last year on the injury list which constitutes damaged goods.
5) He gave up on his team last year at the end and by all accounts was very difficult to motivate. I don't see how giving him a huge contract will help that very much.


Yet despite this we get thread after thread about how we should give up first rounders for this guy but a guy like Fitzgerald who is twice the player RW is doesnt get nearly the attention.

Oh and theo you need to learn I am not responding to your drivel anymore.

:bow:
 
FuzzyLumpkins;1983747 said:
I must really say I am baffled that a board where the major consensus was that signing Moss would be cost prohibitive thinks that a less talented and more injury prone receiver is acceptable. There are so many points that make this deal for a first a bad idea.

1) He will be a UFA next year so basically you are trading a year of RW for a first round draft pick. He wants to come to Texas.
2) He is asking for $8 mil a year but more than likely would be agreeable to $7mil per but even at that rate we still have contracts of Newman and Ware coming up.
3) The Lions are asking for anywhere from a reported first to a second to saying hes not on the block. Offering him top dollar given that is just dumb.
4) He has been injured 3 out of the four years hes been in the league. Injury prone players tend to remain injury prone. heck he even ended last year on the injury list which constitutes damaged goods.
5) He gave up on his team last year at the end and by all accounts was very difficult to motivate. I don't see how giving him a huge contract will help that very much.


Yet despite this we get thread after thread about how we should give up first rounders for this guy but a guy like Fitzgerald who is twice the player RW is doesnt get nearly the attention.

Oh and theo you need to learn I am not responding to your drivel anymore.

Hey if it were to be RW vs. Fitz, Fitz any day of the week. I personally haven't heard any rumor/spec. of Fitz to Dallas for a pick except some wishful thinking on this board. Where as there has been talk in the media of Dallas being a suitor for an RW trade.

Thing is RW could very well be a different player here than in Detroit. Seems being in a losing org. can do that to you. Look at L. Davis. A lot of what you said above was said about him. I for one am thrilled w/him so far.

Sadly I don't think RW or Fitz are coming in via trade this year.
 
tommyboy10;1983078 said:
Give up #28 for Roy Williams, the WR, not the old, slow one we already have?


I would if that is what it took and it didn't take anymore than that.
 
I think Roy Williams will have to force his way out of Detroit if he expects to leave this year.

He may have to assume the role of malcontent bad guy to get it done.

If his desire to 'come home' is as strong as he's indicated, he needs to tell the Lions in no uncertain terms that he will not play for them in 2008 or beyond.
 
you may very well be right. the best thing for him to do is have an awesome productive contract year. I can't blame Det for wanting to see he and Johnson lined up together this year.

Still though, I'd line him up in our offense all day long.
 
tommyboy10;1984618 said:
Still though, I'd line him up in our offense all day long.

Anyone who knows anything about the guy would.
 

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