Would you trade Roy Williams (Detroit) for TO?

[ABQCOWBOY]

More senseless babble?

Ouch, that one struck a nerve I'd guess.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

First of all, TO has 11 drops, so if he had 6 more catches, that would put him at 75, not the league leader.

Second, Roy Williams gets more passes thrown his way every game

I'd love to see this statistic. Please provide it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

he came close, actually was the best player on the field in that game

I'd agree with you Summer. All I'm saying is that Roy Williams guaranting a win ro points is not unique. It happens and it's happened to TO many times. TO has done these same kinds of things. This is not a reason to say one is better then the other. Shockey said we would never win in NY. Well, we did. He's an *** but he's also a great player. Just the way it works unfortunatly.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Ouch, that one struck a nerve I'd guess.

No, I just like the posts I read to make sense

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Apparently, spouting facts makes us liars :laugh2:

No HH, just you.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This is not a reason to say one is better then the other.

yeah, don't get why this is a point of argument, it's not like one player determines the outcome of games, esp. what they say

hell, I'd take both TO and Roy on my team anyday, and Glenn, can you imagine that roster?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No, I just like the posts I read to make sense

I think what you ment to say here is that you just like them to agree with you particular brand of sense. I would hold my breath on that one.

BTW, how you coming on that stat?

 

[The30YardSlant]

I'd agree with you Summer. All I'm saying is that Roy Williams guaranting a win ro points is not unique. It happens and it's happened to TO many times. TO has done these same kinds of things. This is not a reason to say one is better then the other. Shockey said we would never win in NY. Well, we did. He's an *** but he's also a great player. Just the way it works unfortunatly.

TO never aguranteed a win in that game, he said he would bring a SB to Philly. And to add to that, Roy Williams, after assuring us of a 40 point outburst and win, got beat 34 to 7. TO almost single handidly brought a championship to Philly.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I think what you ment to say here is that you just like them to agree with you particular brand of sense. I would hold my breath on that one.

BTW, how you coming on that stat?

No, I mean your post sdid not make any sense in the context of my post, this thread, or in any alternate reality. It was improper usage, a nonsensical post by all standards. It wasnt about me agreeing with you or not, it was simply poor english skills on your part.

 

[The30YardSlant]

No HH, just you.

:laugh2: :laugh2:

Again, I doubt you realize the massive beatdown you just personally brought upon yourself. Thanks for proving my point. You are simply too much.

:laugh2: :laugh2:

 

[Danny White]

I think what you ment to say here is that you just like them to agree with you particular brand of sense. I would hold my breath on that one.

BTW, how you coming on that stat?

You might as well be arguing with a brick wall.

FWIW, I think a couple of things are obvious here.

1) TO is a better wide receiver than TFRW... a fact that should be pretty obvious. However...
2) TFRW is a darn good wideout, on the verge of entering the top tier if he isn't there already.
3) Plus, TFRW is much younger.
4) Lastly, while TFRW seems to be a jerk in his own right, TO is in a class all to himself and is a much bigger headache.

All in all, while I wouldn't make this speculative trade mid-season this year due to chemistry concerns, I'd be really tempted to in the off-season.

But it's a moot point.

Mike Williams, however, could probably be had for a ham-sandwich, as he's currently getting beat out by a Backup QB on Detroit's WR depth-chart.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

yeah, don't get why this is a point of argument, it's not like one player determines the outcome of games, esp. what they say

hell, I'd take both TO and Roy on my team anyday, and Glenn, can you imagine that roster?

I don't love TO but i recognize that he has been a great player. If I were able to take one, right now, I'd take Roy Williams. He's younger, he's producing in a bad offense and he's not a bad guy. Yeah, he made a stupid statement but it's not like he's on the front pages week to week.

How intelligent is this BS about how much better TO is then Roy Williams?

Here are TO's statistics in his first 3 years and Roy Williams' stats with 3 seasons not yet completed.

TO

Yds 2553, TDs 26, Rec 162, Avg 15.75.

Roy

Yds 2547, TDs 20, Rec 162, Avg 15.7

Honestly, it's rediculous to say that TO is the better WR. Age is what the deciding factor is in any trade consideration, such as this. Roy Williams has years left to get better. TO is near the end.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Mike Williams, however, could probably be had for a ham-sandwich, as he's currently getting beat out by a Backup QB on Detoit's WR depth-chart.

no more TEs! PLEASE!!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Age is what the deciding factor is in any trade consideration, such as this. Roy Williams has years left to get better. TO is near the end.

if you go all the way back to the 2nd reply in this thread I said I would do that trade in a heartbeat, WIlliams is going to be good for a long time, TO, maybe 4 years left of high-productivity

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

:laugh2: :laugh2:

Again, I doubt you realize the massive beatdown you just personally brought upon yourself. Thanks for proving my point. You are simply too much.

:laugh2: :laugh2:

And I suppose, this is your version of the story yeah? If you say so.

Just produce the statistic you claimed earlier. Has Roy been thrown to more then TO this year?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

TO never aguranteed a win in that game, he said he would bring a SB to Philly. And to add to that, Roy Williams, after assuring us of a 40 point outburst and win, got beat 34 to 7. TO almost single handidly brought a championship to Philly.

Sounds like a very long winded way of saying that he promised something and failed. OK then.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Mike Williams, however, could probably be had for a ham-sandwich, as he's currently getting beat out by a Backup QB on Detroit's WR depth-chart.

Why? We don't need another TE

 

[The30YardSlant]

Sounds like a very long winded way of saying that he promised something and failed. OK then.

If you can't recognize the difference, then there's no point in debating with you, because you clearly don't have a clue.

 

[Cbz40]

I don't love TO but i recognize that he has been a great player. If I were able to take one, right now, I'd take Roy Williams. He's younger, he's producing in a bad offense and he's not a bad guy. Yeah, he made a stupid statement but it's not like he's on the front pages week to week.

How intelligent is this BS about how much better TO is then Roy Williams?

Here are TO's statistics in his first 3 years and Roy Williams' stats with 3 seasons not yet completed.

TO

Yds 2553, TDs 26, Rec 162, Avg 15.75.

Roy

Yds 2547, TDs 20, Rec 162, Avg 15.7

Honestly, it's rediculous to say that TO is the better WR. Age is what the deciding factor is in any trade consideration, such as this. Roy Williams has years left to get better. TO is near the end.

And that my friend is why I would make the trade in a blink of an eye.

 

[jimmy40]

I don't love TO but i recognize that he has been a great player. If I were able to take one, right now, I'd take Roy Williams. He's younger, he's producing in a bad offense and he's not a bad guy. Yeah, he made a stupid statement but it's not like he's on the front pages week to week.

How intelligent is this BS about how much better TO is then Roy Williams?

Here are TO's statistics in his first 3 years and Roy Williams' stats with 3 seasons not yet completed.

TO

Yds 2553, TDs 26, Rec 162, Avg 15.75.

Roy

Yds 2547, TDs 20, Rec 162, Avg 15.7

Honestly, it's rediculous to say that TO is the better WR. Age is what the deciding factor is in any trade consideration, such as this. Roy Williams has years left to get better. TO is near the end.

But TO had to play with Jerry Rice. Obviously that made it much harder.