Would you trade up for OU's Peterson?

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ABQCOWBOY said:
If JJ doesn't turn out to be the back we all hope he can be, would you consider trading up to get Peterson if the opportunity presented itself? Lets assume that either Romo or Henson are the long term answer at QB, would you take Peterson if the chance to move up came about? He will be a high pick, no doubt. It would cost but he's amazing when he's right.
this is a moot point, because it would be impossible to trade up to the top 3 which is where he will be taken. unfortunately those kind of trades only work on Madden.
 

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Hiero said:
this is a moot point, because it would be impossible to trade up to the top 3 which is where he will be taken. unfortunately those kind of trades only work on Madden.

Thank you magic eight ball. :laugh2:
 

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hell no

why? when we already have 3 talented backs? those 2 1sts, and likely a 2nd and 3rd could be better spent elsewhere, such as on Sidney Rice :) and a Olineman, not to mention the money
 

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Doomsday101 said:
If a college players talent is great ala Dorsett, Campbell, Payton, Dickerson and so on and you have an opportunity to get him in the 1st rd you do so.

right, but we're talking about trading up and spending 2 1sts on one guy, you only do that for premier college QBs IMO, so that rule about RBs being able to be had in the late 1st, 2nd round holds especially true
 

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summerisfunner said:
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hell no

why? when we already have 3 talented backs? those 2 1sts, and likely a 2nd and 3rd could be better spent elsewhere, such as on Sidney Rice :) and a Olineman, not to mention the money

Well, the premise was that JJ would not show this year. If you consider that, then we don't ahve 3 talented backs. We have one guy who can carry the load but is not a break away threat, one guy who is a break away threat that can't seem to stay on the field and one guy who has some interesting talent but isn't a starting RB.
 

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right, but we're talking about trading up and spending 2 1sts on one guy, you only do that for premier college QBs IMO, so that rule about RBs being able to be had in the late 1st, 2nd round holds especially true

I don't know that it would take two 1st to move up and get him. Depends on a lot of stuff. You might be able to get it done with a 1st, a second and players. Don't know.
 

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Well, the premise was that JJ would not show this year.

you mean by if he just flat out sucks and BP gives up on him, or you mean he gets injured and misses substantial time?

I'd still say no

Michael Bush is a very talented runner in his own right too, and if noone steps up at RB, we could be in a very good position to draft him in the middle of the 1st w/o giving up anymore picks
 

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I don't know that it would take two 1st to move up and get him. Depends on a lot of stuff. You might be able to get it done with a 1st, a second and players. Don't know.

if he's as good in the scout's eyes as he is in our's, we'd have to trade up into the top half of the 1st round, which would most likely be a 1st, Cleveland brutalized a team this year, or was it last, just to let them move up one spot in the draft, their trading partner sat right behind them
 

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Yes xInfinity. If he stays healthy, I have little doubt he will come close to if not break Emmitt's yards and TDs record
 

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right, but we're talking about trading up and spending 2 1sts on one guy, you only do that for premier college QBs IMO, so that rule about RBs being able to be had in the late 1st, 2nd round holds especially true

That is how Dallas got Tony D from Seattle and Dallas traded a lot to make that deal, I'm not suggesting that Dallas go out and get Peterson what I'm saying is in the draft you go after top talent regardless of what position and if you find a RB who you think has a special gift then your a fool to pass on him if you get the chance. Some of these guys come around every blue moon.
 

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That is how Dallas got Tony D from Seattle and Dallas traded a lot to make that deal, I'm not suggesting that Dallas go out and get Peterson what I'm saying is in the draft you go after top talent regardless of what position and if youfind a RB who you think has a special gift then your a fool to pass on him if you get the chance. Some of these guys come around every blue moon.

I haven't seen a team trade 2 1sts to move up to select a RB in my lifetime, and don't foresee it, teams are very value-stricken nowadays
 

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summerisfunner said:
you mean by if he just flat out sucks and BP gives up on him, or you mean he gets injured and misses substantial time?

I'd still say no

Michael Bush is a very talented runner in his own right too, and if noone steps up at RB, we could be in a very good position to draft him in the middle of the 1st w/o giving up anymore picks

I don't believe he would flat out suck but I do believe he could have issues with his health. Lets say he misses substantial time again this year because of injury.

Bush is a good back, no question but he's not Peterson IMO. Yes, I think your right in the fact that if he's that much better, he will cost but I don't know that he would cost two 1st round picks. I doubt he would be cheap but I don't think he would cost what a QB would cost. If he could have the imparct of an LT or an Alexander, that could be a very valuable thing indeed. I look at our team and outside of QB and WR, I really don't see much need for impact players. Our OL his getting younger and hopefully better. Our defense is young. Where are we going to need talent in the coming years? I think that if he is all I think he is, I'd probably pull the trigger on a trade. I guess I just think that much of Peterson.
 

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summerisfunner said:
I haven't seen a team trade 2 1sts to move up to select a RB in my lifetime, and don't foresee it, teams are very value-stricken nowadays

I did not mention anything about trading 2 #1's picks. Dallas got Dorsett by giving up their 1st rd pick 3 seconds as well as some players. The deal worked out great for Dallas. Again what I'm getting at is the notion that well because you can get a back later there is no reason to make a deal to get what they may see as a once in a life time player.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
I did not mention anything about trading 2 #1's picks. Dallas got Dorsett by giving up their 1st rd pick 3 seconds as well as some players. The deal worked out great for Dallas. Again what I'm getting at is the notion that well because you can get a back later there is no reason to make a deal to get what they may see as a once in a life time player.

ah, gotcha, but I dont' feel as highly of AD as y'all do, I don't think he'll approach Tony D, or any HOF back
 

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ah, gotcha, but I dont' feel as highly of AD as y'all do, I don't think he'll approach Tony D, or any HOF back

I don't really feel that way about AD as of yet. His 1st year at OU was outstanding, his 2nd year he was injured in the 1st game and played with nagging injuries all last season so it is hard to know. Should he come out this year and match his 1st season or better then I think he would be worth trying to get if possible.
 

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I don't really feel that way about AD as of yet. His 1st year at OU was outstanding, his 2nd year he was injured in the 1st game and played with nagging injuries all last season so it is hard to know. Should he come out this year and match his 1st season or better then I think he would be worth trying to get if possible.

You know, he still rushed for over 1100 yards, 5.03 YPC and 14 TDS last year. That's being injured from day one, basically missing 4 games and playing in an offense that lost it's QB and WRs to the NFL.

In two years, this kid has done the following.

559 carries, 3033 yards, 29 TDs and an average of 5.43 YPC. That's not too bad.
 

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You know, he still rushed for over 1100 yards, 5.03 YPC and 14 TDS last year. That's being injured from day one, basically missing 4 games and playing in an offense that lost it's QB and WRs to the NFL.

In two years, this kid has done the following.

559 carries, 3033 yards, 29 TDs and an average of 5.43 YPC. That's not too bad.

I agree and I'm a Longhorns fan myself so I don't say this with some deep love for the guy. Last year was still a difficult year for him and limited him in things he could do. It should be interesting to see what he will do this season. One thing for sure he has good speed, very good cutting ability and can run with power as well.
 

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I agree and I'm a Longhorns fan myself so I don't say this with some deep love for the guy. Last year was still a difficult year for him and limited him in things he could do. It should be interesting to see what he will do this season. One thing for sure he has good speed, very good cutting ability and can run with power as well.


You said it Dooms. This kid broke my heart.

Here's a link to his site. Granted, it's a player site so your going to see a lot of stuff that's going to make him look good and not a great deal of negative but just take a good look at those clips. Notice how he does run away from defenses. You don't see him get pulled down from behind a lot. He does run with power and he does have the ability to cut. I try to compare him with other guys and I just have a hard time finding anybody to do that with except maybe one.

http://www.adrian-peterson.com/
 

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Thank you magic eight ball. :laugh2:
np madden gm of the year. you'd have to be insane to actually think we would trade into the top 3 or top 5. but thanks for a worthless thread.
 

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np madden gm of the year. you'd have to be insane to actually think we would trade into the top 3 or top 5. but thanks for a worthless thread.


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