Would you want Dak resigned at Discount rate or let him walk/trade?

[thunderpimp91]

They don't owe him anything. His guaranteed money has already been paid. Jerry saves 34 million cash cutting him.

True....I guess i really only talk money in terms of cap money. I could care less how much money Jerry has write a check for.

 

[KJJ]

Like I said before, All that does is drive TV ratings and sell merch. That is no where close to the goal.

It's given the fan base false hope. Which always leads to extreme disappointment. Each year. Next year will be no different. We've seen this play out so many times before. The number of people who believe the Cowboys can make it to a NFCCG is the lowest in many many years. Thanks to one player. Or are you one of the small minority around here that think Dak can finally get to a NFCCG?

You seem to think that if the Cowboys change QB's that automatically means they will start losing. It doesn't. Mayfield. Flacco. Stroud. Love. Many more can get you to the playoffs. Rudolph for crying out loud. They won't wreck you team by getting $50M+ per year either. Browning had a winning season. Make a move. Try something. Anything. See what Lance can do next summer. Dak has a proven track record and it's not good.

So you would prefer sitting through losing seasons and missing the playoffs every year than having a shot in the playoffs? At least being competitive keeps things interesting during the season. It certainly makes it a lot more enjoyable watching games when you’re in the hunt. Can’t imagine any fan wouldn’t agree with that. Were you around watching the Cowboys during the late 80s and early 2000s when they were losing and were shuffling QBs all the time? If you were, are you saying that wasn’t any worse than what we’re going through now? I’m not saying if we change QBs it automatically means we’ll start losing but there’s a good chance we will looking at the state of this team.

This is a QB dependent team. In the games Dak didn’t play well we lost. We lost the first Philly game and he played pretty well in that one. We don’t have a defense that can win games especially in the playoffs. We don’t have a consistent running game to get by with an average QB. We can’t make critical stops and we can’t get pressure on the QB when we need it. We can’t stop the run so a lot is put on the shoulders of our QB. We have to have a much better better than average QB to win games and be successful.

 

[McKDaddy]

You seem to think that if the Cowboys change QB's that automatically means they will start losing. I

Amen. There are a lot of guys who can get wins with a good team around them. If they do get you to the playoffs, at least you are interested to see what might happen rather than already knowing.

 

[Kingofholland]

I doubt Dak sees himself taking a discount, even though the playoff debacle should change his perspective. He's Tony Romo 2.0

 

[Pantone282C]

You trust him with the ball in another playoff game?

Hell no.

 

[My3Sons]

Spin what you want but Green Bay was great on Sunday and the Cowboys were terrible in every faze. Those of you who are pinning that loss entirely on Dak, don’t like him.

Nowhere did I post it was entirely Dak's fault, but he was a big part of that loss. I am not sure why you are having a hard time with that.

Dak is a 50 million a year guy. The three guys that performed better than Dak against the Packers defense the previous weeks man about 5 million a year average. So, Dak makes 10 x those players and he was worse. This is why he is losing the poll badly in here.

 

[KJJ]

Nowhere did I post it was entirely Dak's fault, but he was a big part of that loss. I am not sure why you are having a hard time with that.

Dak is a 50 million a year guy. The three guys that performed better than Dak against the Packers defense the previous weeks man about 5 million a year average. So, Dak makes 10 x those players and he was worse. This is why he is losing the poll badly in here.

You seem to be pinning the entire loss on him and Dak is a $40 million QB which is the going rate for a good QB in today’s NFL. There’s QBs that aren’t as good as him that are making even more money.

 

[efh313]

While I would love to move on to an elite QB immediately, I’ll take the discount. HOWEVER, my caveat is that I want McClay and the scouting department to do something different for the very first time and spend a first or second round pick on Dakar’s replacement. It’s time to start planning for the future. And the future is NOW!!!

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Yet his decisions contradict the above statement given he handed out the big contract to Prescott and he will do so again when he's clearly not up to it.

He had faith that Dak would be able to get the Cowboys to a SB win, that's why he signed him. He certainly didn't sign him thinking Dak wasn't going to be able to do it. WE know Dak is not up to it, but Jerry didn't, at the time he gave him the big contract.

And he hasn't "done it again" as yet, though I suspect he will.

Possibly Dak's "I sucked" will give Jerry some leverage, why would Dak ask for the top qb contract if he himself said he sucked? He's hamstrung himself in contract negotiations.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

He should take a lower rate. First thing out of his mouth was “I sucked…” after his 8th year as a starter and largest collapse of his career.

He should not maintain supreme leverage because it’s hard to find a good QB. He’s proved it is very difficult to find a good QB because he proves he can’t move the needle in the largest games, so he shouldn’t be paid as such.

 

[jay94]

When someone says Dak has played far worse in the playoffs than Romo it makes them look like a Dak hater because their playoff performances have been pretty close. Romo didn’t play very well against Seattle in 06. He completed less than 60% and had less than 200 yards and only one TD. The game was lost when he bobbled a snap on a FG attempt. He didn’t play well in 07 against the Giants. He only completed 50% of his passes and threw an INT with the game on the line. It wasn’t all his fault but he didn’t get it done. He was horrible against Minnesota in the playoffs in 09. He had 3 turnovers in that game. Both Dak and Romo have had issues in the playoffs. However, the biggest issue have been the teams around them. It’s not like the teams played great but the QB failed. That’s never been the case.

Crayton dropped a perfect pass that likely beats the Giants, that isn't on Romo. Against Minn just like Dak vs SF the oline did horrible, but yes he had a bad game. I don't remember Seattle and NY being horrible, obviously the snap was a iconic embarrassment, but I would still take that over the game vs GB. To me Dak has played bad in every game, but the Bucs, not accounting for garbage stats that he accrued late against GB

 

[Philmonroe]

You seem to be pinning the entire loss on him and Dak is a $40 million QB which is the going rate for a good QB in today’s NFL. There’s QBs that aren’t as good as him that are making even more money.

Who cares if there are qbs worse than him making more? They play for us? If not so what. Tired of this stay with junk logic because if we don’t it could be worse. It could be better and even if it’s not I rather sink low for awhile than know we just going to continue to be a team that can’t win when it really counts. Dak is Kirk Cousins and Bengals Andy Dalton status.

 

[leeblair]

If Dak is released, he has a $60 million cap hit whether we keep him or release him.
Therefore, the Cowboys want to sign him to an extension to prevent that big of a hit.
Going into the Playoffs, it was almost guaranteed that he was going to get Top of the Market salary.
Now, with his disastrous performance, there is no way the Cowboys can justify paying him that nor any where near the $50 million range.
His last contract averaged $40 million a year. In those 4 years he has 1 playoff Wild Card win.
So, do you let Dak play his last year and absorb the $60 million cap hit?
Give him an a $50 Million+ extension?
Would you like him to resign but only on a sub $50 million deal?
Dak doesn't have much leverage for a trade because no team can justify to their fanbase giving Dak a premium deal.
But the Cowboys don't have much leverage either given the Cap hit.
The Cowboys fanbase will be irate if he gives Dak a premium deal which would hamper the team for the next few years.

I made a post on this, but I don't think it would be fair for me to say much, since I don't really care about it anymore.
All I will say is that I see no reason to keep him unless he takes less than $4 million per year- what Baker Mayfield gets.
Baker is still playing.

 

[KJJ]

Crayton dropped a perfect pass that likely beats the Giants, that isn't on Romo. Against Minn just like Dak vs SF the oline did horrible, but yes he had a bad game. I don't remember Seattle and NY being horrible, obviously the snap was an iconic embarrassment, but I would still take that over the game vs GB. To me Dak has played bad in every game, but the Bucs, not accounting for garbage stats that he accrued late against GB

If you think Dak played bad in every playoff game but the Bucs game then you either have a bad memory or you don’t like him. He played very good against Green Bay in 2016. He had just over 300 yards and 3 TDs with a passer rating of 103.2. How is that a bad game? Our defense choked in the final seconds. Against Seattle in 2018 he had 226 with a TD and one INT. It wasn’t a great game but it was far from bad or the Cowboys wouldn’t have won. Against the Rams the following week he had a good game passing for 266 yards with a one TD and no INTs. His passer rating was 99.2. How was that a bad game? It was our defense that lost the game, giving up over 200 yards rushing.

 

[Philmonroe]

If you think Dak played bad in every playoff game but the Bucs game then you either have a bad memory or you don’t like him. He played very good against Green Bay in 2016. He had just over 300 yards and 3 TDs with a passer rating of 103.2. How is that a bad game? Our defense choked in the final seconds. Against Seattle in 2018 he had 226 with a TD and one INT. It wasn’t a great game but it was far from bad or the Cowboys wouldn’t have won. Against the Rams the following week he had a good game passing for 266 yards with a one TD and no INTs. His passer rating was 99.2. How was that a bad game? It was our defense that lost the game, giving up over 200 yards rushing.

See this is what happens as the years add up. Then Dak stat pad performances get made to be more than what they are. Might do that with this one years later. 2016 wasn’t the worst but the stats alone leave out context that we were down by a lot and Dak had to throw after not doing much earlier in the game. If he had done more earlier maybe we would’ve had a better chance to win. Yeah the D gave up the lead I’ll give you that but no D can just stop teams on demand. Game winning drives happen but if we didn’t have to fight back maybe it doesn’t just like if the D makes a stop we win.

 

[KJJ]

See this is what happens as the years add up. Then Dak stat pad performances get made to be more than what they are. Might do that with this one years later. 2016 wasn’t the worst but the stats alone leave out context that we were down by a lot and Dak had to throw after not doing much earlier in the game. If he had done more earlier maybe we would’ve had a better chance to win. Yeah the D gave up the lead I’ll give you that but no D can just stop teams on demand. Game winning drives happen but if we didn’t have to fight back maybe it doesn’t just like if the D makes a stop we win.

We had trouble containing Rodgers in 2016. That was a hell of a lot better Packers team than we faced on Sunday. Rodgers put up 355 yards with a couple of TDs. Dak had to throw a lot because we couldn’t stop them. We got down by two scores and Dak brought us back to tie that game late in the 4th quarter. It looked as if we were headed for OT but our defense choked like it always does in the playoffs. If you’re going to be a championship team your defense has to step up when a game is on the line in the final minutes and ours didn’t. It was the same thing in 2014 and last Sunday. We fought back in that 2016 game with Dak leading the way but our defense folded. Some of you can never give him any credit. You’re always looking for ways to knock even his good performances.

 

[Philmonroe]

We had trouble containing Rodgers in 2016. That was a hell of a lot better Packers team than we faced on Sunday. Rodgers put up 355 yards with a couple of TDs. Dak had to throw a lot because we couldn’t stop them. We got down by two scores and Dak brought us back to tie that game late in the 4th quarter. It looked as if we were headed for OT but our defense choked like it always does in the playoffs. If you’re going to be a championship team your defense has to step up when a game is on the line in the final minutes and ours didn’t. It was the same thing in 2014 and last Sunday. We fought back in that 2016 game with Dak leading the way but our defense folded. Some of you can never give him any credit. You’re always looking for ways to knock even his good performances.

Stop it with this lazy some of you never give him credit bs? Show proof I never gave him credit or get out of here with that lazy mess. I posted a balanced post to you and your retort is wah wah y’all don’t give this Kirk Cousins level qb credit smh. On the post you quoted where did I say something outrageous about him?

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Bottom line is no matter where you stand on Dak the Cowboys HAVE to do something with his contract.

It would cause this forum to explode but an extension is the best option. Provides immediate cap relief and makes it easier to move on from him down the line should it come to that.

 

[KJJ]

Stop it with this lazy some of you never give him credit bs? Show proof I never gave him credit or get out of here with that lazy mess. I posted a balanced post to you and your retort is wah wah y’all don’t give this Kirk Cousins level qb credit smh. On the post you quoted where did I say something outrageous about him?

Show proof you’ve given him credit or move on. You didn’t give him an ounce of credit in your previous post. You attempted to discredit him. By the way I never claimed you said anything outrageous about him. You just don’t give him any credit.

 

[Mannix]

You absolutely HAVE to watch his performance in one more post season...if it happens....before doing ANYTHING!!!