WR Comparison

stasheroo said:
Here is a comparison of season-long receiver stats between Receiver A and Receiver B:

Receiver A

79 receptions for 1189 yards and 8 TD's

Receiver B

69 receptions for 838 yards and 6 TD's

How much would you pay Receiver A and how much is Receiver B worth?
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Depends who your QB is:

QB A hits receiver on time and does not need 2 yards of separation to make the throw.

QB B waits for break and needs 2 yards before he makes the throw. He also cannot buy time in the pocket for WR to work himself open.

QB A can function with WRB , QB B cannot!
 
ondaedg said:
Cole, Witt, Dez and TWill were his top targets with Zeke rounding out the group. Dez missed 3 games that season.
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And still finished 2nd in yards and tops in touchdowns with 8, averaging 16 yards per reception. Let's not try to rewrite history here.
 
aikemirv said:
Depends who your QB is:

QB A hits receiver on time and does not need 2 yards of separation to make the throw.

QB B waits for break and needs 2 yards before he makes the throw. He also cannot buy time in the pocket for WR to work himself open.

QB A can function with WRB , QB B cannot!
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They went 13-3 together in 2016, that's some "functioning" happening somewhere.
 
stasheroo said:
And still finished 2nd in yards and tops in touchdowns with 8, averaging 16 yards per reception. Let's not try to rewrite history here.
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Uhh what history am I rewriting? Perhaps you meant that for someone else?
 
stasheroo said:
That Bryant wasn't still the team's top receiver.
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He was our top WR at the time. You are probably replying to the wrong person. I just made a comment how Catch17 has to figure out a way to take a shot at Dak in EVERY post he makes.
 
stasheroo said:
They went 13-3 together in 2016, that's some "functioning" happening somewhere.
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Well, I always look at these things in singular years. The NFL defense always seems to take close to a year to figure out new things. Dak and Zeke were new things, if we are talking about the Cowboys in 2016 and it took the NFL a year to figure them out. Once they did we saw a huge dropoffrom QB B.

You could mirror RGIII and Alfred Morris first year to Dak and Zeke
 
aikemirv said:
Well, I always look at these things in singular years. The NFL defense always seems to take close to a year to figure out new things. Dak and Zeke were new things, if we are talking about the Cowboys in 2016 and it took the NFL a year to figure them out. Once they did we saw a huge dropoffrom QB B.

You could mirror RGIII and Alfred Morris first year to Dak and Zeke
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Yeah, but I think RGIII was all about the rushing and option stuff, wasn't he?

I don't recall passing efficiency like we saw from Dak this year. Am I wrong in that?
 
stasheroo said:
Yeah, but I think RGIII was all about the rushing and option stuff, wasn't he?

I don't recall passing efficiency like we saw from Dak this year. Am I wrong in that?
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RGII had 3200 yards 20 tds and 5 picks - 102 rating - he had over 800 rushing yards however - I think that is what help Alfred so much!

Dak was at 3667- 23-4 -104 rating - Dak had 282 rushing yards- Zeke rushing stood on its own.
 
aikemirv said:
RGII had 3200 yards 20 tds and 5 picks - 102 rating - he had over 800 rushing yards however - I think that is what help Alfred so much!

Dak was at 3667- 23-4 -104 rating - Dak had 282 rushing yards- Zeke rushing stood on its own.
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But RGIII never had a passing season like Dak did in 2019, right?
 
stasheroo said:
But RGIII never had a passing season like Dak did in 2019, right?
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Nope!

I think this is the first year that Dak proved he could function passing well without a truly effective run game. That said, his functioning was more against weak competition.

The one thing I think Dak has proven so far is that he needs Amari!
 
stasheroo said:
I'm not sure what would be sweeter, the winning, or throwing it in the face of the Dez-bashing, Jason Garrett apologists?
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The fact that you even posted this comment says all there is to say about your fandom

you’re going on ignore because this entire thre
Typhus said:
Keep living in the past, it will never equate to another ring.
Lets try and bring back Jay Novaceck while were at it.
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I put him on ignore. His entire fandom is based on personal feelings.
 
Kwyn said:
The fact that you even posted this comment says all there is to say about your fandom

you’re going on ignore because this entire thre

I put him on ignore. His entire fandom is based on personal feelings.
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That and you were getting your *** kicked in your Dez thread.
 
ondaedg said:
He was our top WR at the time. You are probably replying to the wrong person. I just made a comment how Catch17 has to figure out a way to take a shot at Dak in EVERY post he makes.
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Ok, I thought you were saying Dez wasn't still his main target that year. My bad if that wasn't the case.
 
Typhus said:
You left out ceiling, that's a very important element, Coop played hurt, and never runs his mouth,
You left out the difference in age as well, which directly affect the ceiling.
Comparing Coop to Dez with out including those two variables, is why just looking at stats is just kicking a can down the street.
Coop, can be a WR1 in this league,, even though I wouldn't go there, but Im just a poster responding to an incredibly unjust evaluation between the two, that's the problem with just production stats.
Cooper isn't even worthy of WR1 status in this league, why should he be, he has never proven it.
But what Coop does have, is unexplored potential, amazing upside talent when healthy,, but
has never proven that element.
Coop at a decent price is what this franchise invests in, we always invest in possible potential / ceiling.
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Coop never running his mouth should not be an assumed positive. Every Football team needs an emotional leader.

As far as Coop being a #1 of course he is. . . He made Dak relevant again. After the book was out on how to defend Mr. PRESCOTT. Cooper came in and created so much seperation Dak thrived. There may not be another WR in the league that could get open for Dakie-Pooh
 
Perfect examples why stats aren’t the only measurement and can be misleading.

1. Did both receivers play the same amount of games?

2. Did either suffer any injuries?

3. Do receivers draw double coverage opening it up for other receivers ?

4. Were these yards and TD’s in games they won or in losing efforts?
 
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