WR is an overrated need

[kskboys]

I'm all for drafting a high DT, but they aren't taking another 3T to be Osa's backup nor are they going to draft a two down NT in rd 1.

Day 2 is where they would be smart to draft a high-end NT like a Williams or a Collins.

I know, we're too dumb.

 

[Mr_437]

I keep trying to tell them this. Now if the d is on point and run game is on point but wr2 is lacking you do a mid-season trade. Dak, Stephen and ceedee wanted Cooper kupp so this explosive number 2 talk is cap. They are such a confused team as to how to build a team. First they want kupp then they want speed

That alone let's me know they need to pass on wr.

Right, just call Keenan Allen and build a more balanced roster.

 

[Chasing6]

I know, we're too dumb.

You would think they would know more than ever with Barkley in Philly.

 

[kskboys]

If there is not a top 15 defensive tackle you can’t force a pick and think you have a top defensive or offensive line by selecting one in the 1st round. That’s how you end up with a Carver or Shariff Floyd at 12.

Or Wilkinson or Chris Jones or Jeffrey Simmons or Javon Hargrave. Listing a couple busts doesn't prove anything. There are busts at every position.

 

[kskboys]

You would think they would know more than ever with Barkley in Philly.

They've shown no signs as of yet.

 

[Cowboyny]

Don’t get me wrong CB is a big need as well but to say WR as a need is overrated is insane to me. We haven’t had a competent #2 receiving option in years. Our WR room compared to NFC playoff is laughable.

At CB you’ve got a stud in Bland, you hope Diggs can come back strong, Carson entering year 2 (top 100ish prospect) and a former 1st rounder in Elam where. change of scheme / scenery might help.

I’d 100% take a CB early if it’s BPA but WR is a massive need on this team.

Blows your mind when many think he are ok at WR, we just lost our #2 and none of the other receivers have proved they are starters in this league.

 

[stilltheguru]

Blows your mind when many think he are ok at WR, we just lost our #2 and none of the other receivers have proved they are starters in this league.

2022/2023 did we lose in the playoffs because of wr2? The answer will blow your mind

 

[Cowboyny]

2022/2023 did we lose in the playoffs because of wr2? The answer will blow your mind

We were in the playoff that year, even with Dak we weren't going with last year's team as they can no longer carry a suspect defense. There are needs on both sides of the football.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Your wrong for talking about Mazi like that lol. If you have a primarily 2 read QB example: CeeDee, Ferg, then RB why would a DC worry about another WR? We've seen this with Amari, CeeDee n Gallup. It doesn't matter how many weapons Dak has. I'm well aware of the points your making, but as I said We've seen Dez, Bease, TWill get retired early by Dak, and Amari, CeeDee n Gallup came up empty. So, why would CeeDee plus Tet/Golden, and Tolbert be something to champion when Dak has had better groups?

In addition, Dak had better OLs and Zeke. I just don't see why anyone thinks a 3rd cycle of WRs is going to work.

Well if your argument is basically that Dak isn't a good enough QB to maximize the effects of adding another quality WR then fine. If you'd rather see Dallas go defense early and often this draft in attempt to turn that into a better unit in the league I'm OK with that as well. The bigger issue here is the number of holes this roster has going into the draft. My big thing is simply that people underestimate the effect a real secondary option at WR can have, including in the run game. I don't think them going WR early would mean they are planning on slinging it 650 times again this year.

 

[kskboys]

I'm all for drafting a high DT, but they aren't taking another 3T to be Osa's backup nor are they going to draft a two down NT in rd 1.

Day 2 is where they would be smart to draft a high-end NT like a Williams or a Collins.

Neither of those 2 is a NT.

 

[xwalker]

WR is an overrated need for this team.

CeeDee locked in as number 1.

Yes we don’t have a proven number 2, but we have 4 other guys making the roster: Tolbert, Turpin, Mingo, Flournoy. We technically used our 4th for Mingo who should be number two territory at this point in his career.

Now, one of these guys can develop into the number 2 (not Turpin who is a dangerous weapon). I can see Tolbert, Mingo and/or Flournoy taking a big leap this year. But we already have 5 guys at WR the team wants to give snaps to. The team def views WR as a high need per the 30 visits, but this doesn’t sit right with me given the above. Plus I left off Jalen Brooks bc he’s been atrocious IMO.

To me, CB is the most pressing need on this roster and leads me to question why Jahdae Barron isn’t a bigger rumor for us at 12 than someone like Golden. Barron would be able to own the slot and play outside if needed + adding another playmaker to our defense which was abysmal last season. How can we trust Bland/Diggs to be healthy? At this point it’s more likely one will be injured.

Trenches is always a need so there’s also that angle.

Finally, an elite TE like Warren might make even more sense than a WR in how it could help the run & pass O.

Am I tripping, or is WR an overrated need and we’d be just as good or better off going trenches, DB, or TE?

It seems that playoff teams in recent years (without elite QBs) have 2 very good WRs.
Eagles
Lions
49ers
Etc..

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We have a mega star WR + cast of guys with their own niches & potential growth.

Did teams like Bills, Chiefs, Commanders, Ravens, Chargers, Texans come into the playoffs with that much of a better WR unit than we have? They all had much better defenses than us.

I can’t see how WR is a bigger need than defense/trenches - can’t win when you’re giving up most points in the league right? We were at the bottom.

Plus a guy like Warren or bolstering the OL is bringing much more to this offense’s overall foundation than a guy like Golden IMO.

But notice though out of those teams you listed....Bills struggled because they needed another receiver, Commanders struggeld because they needed another receiver(went out and traded for Deebo), Ravens struggled because they neeed another receiver, Chargers struggled because they needed another receiver....Texans invested in Nico Collins, Stefon Diggs and Tank Dell....Diggs got hurt.....this offseason go and get Christian Kirk. Literally every one of those teams who had better seasons then us said their receiving group wasn't good enough.

 

[Kingofholland]

WR is an overrated need for this team.

CeeDee locked in as number 1.

Yes we don’t have a proven number 2, but we have 4 other guys making the roster: Tolbert, Turpin, Mingo, Flournoy. We technically used our 4th for Mingo who should be number two territory at this point in his career.

Now, one of these guys can develop into the number 2 (not Turpin who is a dangerous weapon). I can see Tolbert, Mingo and/or Flournoy taking a big leap this year. But we already have 5 guys at WR the team wants to give snaps to. The team def views WR as a high need per the 30 visits, but this doesn’t sit right with me given the above. Plus I left off Jalen Brooks bc he’s been atrocious IMO.

To me, CB is the most pressing need on this roster and leads me to question why Jahdae Barron isn’t a bigger rumor for us at 12 than someone like Golden. Barron would be able to own the slot and play outside if needed + adding another playmaker to our defense which was abysmal last season. How can we trust Bland/Diggs to be healthy? At this point it’s more likely one will be injured.

Trenches is always a need so there’s also that angle.

Finally, an elite TE like Warren might make even more sense than a WR in how it could help the run & pass O.

Am I tripping, or is WR an overrated need and we’d be just as good or better off going trenches, DB, or TE?

I get your point and I don't think our WR depth is poor we just lack a true #2 that takes pressure off Ceedee or can step into that number 1 spot. I think Tolbert and Turpin are fine number 3s and we have some interesting young guys behind them. I just don't know if anyone on the team will ascend to take that number 2 spot.

I dont think this draft WR class is particularly strong sans a guy or two that could help out of the gates. However, I certainly don't want to reach for a receiver and mentioned before I much rather sign a veteran than feel pressure to take someone in round 1. At this point it's Allen, Lockett, and Cooper.

 

[RonWashington]

When I hear WR talked about in Dallas Jamal Brooks needs to be mentioned . Rush seemed to find him for chunks of yards downfield and I know it was Carolina the worst team in football but Brooks started out on one side of the end zone ran across to the other side as Rush kept the play alive and found Brooks for the score .

Sometimes i think the WR’s already here aren’t all of the problem it takes the QB to find them consistently as well . And with two guys named Sanders & Willians holding down the backfield how is this not as critical a need as WR ? If Dallas doesn’t have a legit feature back on the roster opening day that’s a disaster . All that’s on the roster now are complimentary relief backs

And really defense should command most of this draft the defense is bottom rung material ..

 

[cnuball21]

Blows your mind when many think he are ok at WR, we just lost our #2 and none of the other receivers have proved they are starters in this league.

I think some fans are attached to certain positions and won’t be happy unless we draft that position.

We have needs everywhere…with WR being one of the biggest ones. Take the best players with an emphasis on money positions early.

 

[Cowboyny]

I think some fans are attached to certain positions and won’t be happy unless we draft that position.

We have needs everywhere…with WR being one of the biggest ones. Take the best players with an emphasis on money positions early.

Seems like everyone wants Tyler Warren, not only does he play a low valued position, I just don't see an elite TE that is worth a high 1st rd pick. Think if you want to draft a TE, you can find quality options throughout the draft in a good class.

 

[Aven8]

I have no faith on any of the WRs outside of Lamb. I still kind of like Brooks, but unfortunately he's probably not a good enough pure athlete to ever do much. If you're going on hope, maybe Flournoy turns out okay but that's likely another year away if it ever happens.

I like Golden, but one thing I do kind of agree on is that with the way Jerry expects the big moneymakers to be targeted, I'm not sure a second WR is going to be worthy of a #12 overall pick, because they will keep force feeding the ball to CeeDee. I'd actually love Egbuka in that role but of course only after a trade down. A second rounder on, say, one of the Iowa State guys could work also.

Yeah they need to quit drafting WR’s from Nowhere State. Tolbert and Flournoy came from tiny schools and it takes too long to develop. Get someone who has played against big time competition.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Yeah they need to quit drafting WR’s from Nowhere State. Tolbert and Flournoy came from tiny schools and it takes too long to develop. Get someone who has played against big time competition.

Very true....roll the dice on a late pick small school project every now and then, but we all know the odds of these guys becoming true impact players. They did this years ago with the safety position where we had to convince ourselves that Jeff Heath was a legitimate NFL starter.

 

[GuitarBytes]

WR is an overrated need for this team.

CeeDee locked in as number 1.

Yes we don’t have a proven number 2, but we have 4 other guys making the roster: Tolbert, Turpin, Mingo, Flournoy. We technically used our 4th for Mingo who should be number two territory at this point in his career.

Now, one of these guys can develop into the number 2 (not Turpin who is a dangerous weapon). I can see Tolbert, Mingo and/or Flournoy taking a big leap this year. But we already have 5 guys at WR the team wants to give snaps to. The team def views WR as a high need per the 30 visits, but this doesn’t sit right with me given the above. Plus I left off Jalen Brooks bc he’s been atrocious IMO.

To me, CB is the most pressing need on this roster and leads me to question why Jahdae Barron isn’t a bigger rumor for us at 12 than someone like Golden. Barron would be able to own the slot and play outside if needed + adding another playmaker to our defense which was abysmal last season. How can we trust Bland/Diggs to be healthy? At this point it’s more likely one will be injured.

Trenches is always a need so there’s also that angle.

Finally, an elite TE like Warren might make even more sense than a WR in how it could help the run & pass O.

Am I tripping, or is WR an overrated need and we’d be just as good or better off going trenches, DB, or TE?

It is clear that the WR talent in this draft is very inflated because there are no more, and since there is a need their value increases although the talent is not so evident, I like the TE Warren option much more due to the type of QB that Dallas has, Dak-ancer has an average of 6.7 yards per pass, it is his maximum distance range of his passes, Dak-ancer has worked better with a good TE, and you have to take into account that this is Jake Ferguson's last year, which has not reached the level or even the level that Dalton Schultz had in Dallas, Warren is a complete package and would be ideal, but you have to go up for him, another player that would be very good to have is Ashton Jeanty but you have to go up for him even more than Warren. Golden and T-Mac are good but they are prospects that may or may not work, there is more security in Warren or Jeanty. Dallas has to make a boom pick to start waking up. There's a rumor that Dallas wants Travis Hunter... we'll see what happens.

 

[Aliencowboy]

Or Wilkinson or Chris Jones or Jeffrey Simmons or Javon Hargrave. Listing a couple busts doesn't prove anything. There are busts at every position.

C Jones and Hargrove were not first round picks. Simmons was considered highly rated and still not in the top 15 because he lacked pass rush ability. So basically don’t go DL at 12. Good tip