WR Manuel Johson will be on ktbb with Todd Archer today, heads up!

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WR Manuel Johson will be on ktbb with Todd Archer today, heads up!
 

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cowboyjoe;2815450 said:
WR Manuel Johson will be on ktbb with Todd Archer today, heads up!

offense looked sharper in mini camp;
defense had turnovers
romo and roy williams looked alittle better

but the cowboys know they still have a long ways to go

austin maybe took a step back since he was hurt due to 3 weeks injury;

dont know if u can put an injury prone label on him, just have to wait and see how he develops this year,

so of course he has to stay healthy;

like stanback he maybe be more injury prone

greg ellis accepted deal with oakland due to turning down patriots deal
todd thinks he would have stuck wiht a 4-3 team and hard to turn down money, but he has been a guy chasing a pay check since he got turned down with cowboys in 2003,

letting younger players be more talented from jerry jones statement, todd says right now no with loss of T O and greg ellis, but with felix, austin, bennett these guys can develop later on in possibly the year; but no not better right now

eagles game big upset, otas, mini camp, what they havent answered to todd question, wr position, like ones that got hurt this time with hurd, austin, stanback, so you didnt really see something from them, like if they were in practice you might could see if they can take that next step, so in regards patrick crayton might have been most improved player this year, and he has worked harder then he ever has;

manuel johnons at 6:03, manuel took step up when ogletree went down with his injury;
 

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I think either Stanback or Hurd may lose their roster slot to Manny Johnson.

I'm comfortable with Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton, Miles Austin and Manny Johnson being Dallas' wideout quartet.
 

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Aikbach;2815540 said:
I think either Stanback or Hurd may lose their roster slot to Manny Johnson.

I'm comfortable with Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton, Miles Austin and Manny Johnson being Dallas' wideout quartet.

i was liking ogletree till he got hurt
 

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cowboyjoe;2815544 said:
i was liking ogletree till he got hurt
I wasn't paying close enough attention to him honestly, i'm kind of bias toward drafted players since it cost something to acquire them.
 

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Aikbach;2815547 said:
I wasn't paying close enough attention to him honestly, i'm kind of bias toward drafted players since it cost something to acquire them.

understand what your saying, but remember we got a steal in a undrafted wr in 1973 Drew Pearson; now im not saying ogletree is a drew pearson, but he does understand zones coverages; and he has superior speed 4.37 in 40
 

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cowboyjoe;2815555 said:
understand what your saying, but remember we got a steal in a undrafted wr in 1973 Drew Pearson; now im not saying ogletree is a drew pearson, but he does understand zones coverages; and he has superior speed 4.37 in 40
I getcha' and I welcome that, ultimately if Ogeltree stays someone from last year goes.

Austin and Hurd were walk ons, Austin definitely stays, Stanback and Johnson were drfat picks, I feel Stanback is the likely odd man out if Ogeltree and Hurd have good camps.

Hurd is on the bubble too in my opinion, not much to show for himself in 2008.

Whatever became of Travis Wilson ? They were high on him a month ago.
 

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Aikbach;2815574 said:
I getcha' and I welcome that, ultimately if Ogeltree stays someone from last year goes.

Austin and Hurd were walk ons, Austin definitely stays, Stanback and Johnson were drfat picks, I feel Stanback is the likely odd man out if Ogeltree and Hurd have good camps.

Hurd is on the bubble too in my opinion, not much to show for himself in 2008.

Whatever became of Travis Wilson ? They were high on him a month ago.

at one time they said travis wilson may have had another serious knee injury, but maybe have been just cleaned out, not sure how serious it was;

true i think stanbacks days are numbered
 

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manuel johnson text interview;
doing ok, was diving in pool and forgot had his cell phone on him;

practice; i feel llike i had my best week this week, finally got everything down and knew plays, i was playing and not just thinking

playbook was alittle more then in college
wasnt that plays were hard, they were just going fast

once we got there first mini camp you didnt know what to expect, they dont practice long, but when the move they move, praphrasing here

kitna and i are developing some rapport, he is slowing me down some what is good and bad, and we clicked on a 2 minute drill

yes had success against jenkins, doenst matter what rounds you are, but how you compete

with just 5 guys when a chance comes you haveto make best of it

we will go in every mornign except fridays and work out with joe jurascack cowboys strength coach;

hodge is a competitor, i think he said, and will play on special teams

talked with travis wilson, we know eaach other, he showed me the ropes, etc, and with plays

its a business to be a professional, they bring players in every day

then talked college; going to check on dfw sports beat, he is on to to give you zoners recap on it if anything worthwhile

hopefully dc or theebs will put up the podcast

here is the todd archer podcast;
http://www.ktbb.com/cowboys/todd-archer/

tigher spiral, sam my qb at oklahoma, then romo or kitna or oklahome qb

speed of the game with their throws, their quicker with the throws so you have to be there;

got to be pals with rudy carpenter; hodge and travis wilson too as noted above

finally sinking in that im playing and practicing as a dallas cowboy

the cowboys pay for our housing, we get 350 dollars a week for food etc

thats it;
 

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With Issy, Austin and Hurd all having been plagued by injuries, it seems like a good idea to go with 6 to me.

Issy would be the odd man out for me.

Williams, Crayton and Austin are obvious.
Hurd (whom I've liked from the beginning) has at least produced on the field and supposedly picked up one good thing from TO, his work ethic.
I'd like to see Johnson (the one guy they could probably sneek onto the PS) get a chance. And I'm intrigued by Ogeltree's speed.
 

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ByeBye Stanback.

Meet your 2009 Dallas Cowboys WR core
Roy Williams
Miles Austin
Patrick Crayton
Sam Hurd
Manuel Johnson
Kevin Ogletree
 

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SLATEmosphere;2815862 said:
ByeBye Stanback.

Meet your 2009 Dallas Cowboys WR core
Roy Williams
Miles Austin
Patrick Crayton
Sam Hurd
Manuel Johnson
Kevin Ogletree

If they're keeping 3 QBs and 2 Ks, ain't no way they're keeping 6 WRs, Slate...
 

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Aikbach;2815540 said:
I think either Stanback or Hurd may lose their roster slot to Manny Johnson.

I'm comfortable with Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton, Miles Austin and Manny Johnson being Dallas' wideout quartet.

He better be a beast on special teams if he is going to beat out Hurd.

Hurd is pretty much a lock to make this team.
 

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he said Bradford throws a tighter spiral than Romo. Hopefully that's because he's 3 rd string and doesn't get any passes from Romo in practice
 

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arync;2816181 said:
he said Bradford throws a tighter spiral than Romo. Hopefully that's because he's 3 rd string and doesn't get any passes from Romo in practice

yeah i found that surprising, i would have thought at least romo or kitna would have thrown a tighter spiral than bradford;
 

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CATCH17;2816130 said:
He better be a beast on special teams if he is going to beat out Hurd.

Hurd is pretty much a lock to make this team.

+1.

I'm actually excited to see Hurd this season. I thought last year was going to be big for him. Either way, walk-ons are going to have a long road to hoe to knock Hurd off the roster. Hurd on ST and the roster + Johnson on practice squad > than Johnson on roster + street FA on practice squad.
 

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silverbear;2816001 said:
If they're keeping 3 QBs and 2 Ks, ain't no way they're keeping 6 WRs, Slate...


obviously the biggest thing standing between Johnson and or Ogletree making the team is Stanback. they've invested a lot in the guy, but he just can't stay on the field. everything he does can be done by one of the other guys just as well if not better. KO's=Austin & Felix, WR=Austin & Hurd..., Wildcat=Crayton, Speed=Ogletree & Austin.
I was excited by his potential when the boy's drafted him, but now i'm indifferent.

BTW: as much as I'd love to see them keep 6, you make a very good point with the numbers I just can't see it happening. I wonder if Ogletree's speed gives him a better chance at the 5th spot. the NFL is so enamored with fast guys, it might be harder to get him to the PS than it would Johnson.

I can't wait for camp to start.
 
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