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Eskimo;2511815 said:
TO is definitely not a slant guy - his hands are not good enough.

At this point of his career his best routes are deep to take advantage of his great top speed when he has got his long legs going.

not really, because he can be taken out of a game if he's pressed

he needs to be out in space to be effective, running him off slants does that

he'll drop the ball, but he'll gain alot of yards and score you alot of points too
 

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Bob Sacamano;2511826 said:
not really, because he can be taken out of a game if he's pressed

he needs to be out in space to be effective, running him off slants does that

he'll drop the ball, but he'll gain alot of yards and score you alot of points too

He'll also turn the ball over by popping the ball up or will get stripped for fumbles. You are asking for trouble if you hit him on these short passes in traffic. I do agree they can use him on other routes more, but not slants. We can use Crayton, RW11 and Austin for slants.
 

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Eskimo;2511850 said:
He'll also turn the ball over by popping the ball up or will get stripped for fumbles. You are asking for trouble if you hit him on these short passes in traffic. I do agree they can use him on other routes more, but not slants. We can use Crayton, RW11 and Austin for slants.


Thats fine. Don't throw him any slants then. But drags, crosses, some sort of bubble screens, something like that. Stop trying to throw nothing but verticals and long, time consuming, routes with him.
 

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Eskimo;2511850 said:
He'll also turn the ball over by popping the ball up or will get stripped for fumbles. You are asking for trouble if you hit him on these short passes in traffic. I do agree they can use him on other routes more, but not slants. We can use Crayton, RW11 and Austin for slants.

I must be thinking of drag routes then

whatever he was doing in San Fran and Philly
 

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BraveHeartFan;2511884 said:
Thats fine. Don't throw him any slants then. But drags, crosses, some sort of bubble screens, something like that. Stop trying to throw nothing but verticals and long, time consuming, routes with him.

I would agree with all of that. But I would leave in the vertical routes because we need to take shots when they are there because it forces teams to stay back and should curtail their aggressiveness.

Romo has to be more accurate (I think the inconsistency is due to the hand injury and the cold ball) and needs to avoid throwing deep into double and triple coverage which he has been doing at an alarming rate.
 

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Eskimo;2511907 said:
I would agree with all of that. But I would leave in the vertical routes because we need to take shots when they are there because it forces teams to stay back and should curtail their aggressiveness.

Romo has to be more accurate (I think the inconsistency is due to the hand injury and the cold ball) and needs to avoid throwing deep into double and triple coverage which he has been doing at an alarming rate.

We used to call those "punts" back in the QC days. :D
 

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Bob Sacamano;2511906 said:
I must be thinking of drag routes then

whatever he was doing in San Fran and Philly

He ran those often and can run them effectively here when given the chance which hasn't been often.

It is just on the slants, the CBs are right on his back and the ball comes in very quickly at a short distance and is not a good idea with his hands.
 

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Ozzu;2511916 said:
We used to call those "punts" back in the QC days. :D

I was thinking about that on that first one in the 1st quarter - classic QC "punt". :laugh2:
 

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Eskimo;2511925 said:
He ran those often and can run them effectively here when given the chance which hasn't been often.

It is just on the slants, the CBs are right on his back and the ball comes in very quickly at a short distance and is not a good idea with his hands.

I agree, he looks upfield before securing the ball alot

but he needs to get a clean release, and needs room to operate

all I ask is for Garrett to mix it up
 

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Romo's escapability often extends plays but it doesn't seem like TO or RW have the ability to improvise and find a seem. This team really needs a smallish, quick WR (like Kevin Williams) to provide skills/routes that our bigger WRs don't have.
 

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slogriff;2511959 said:
Romo's escapability often extends plays but it doesn't seem like TO or RW have the ability to improvise and find a seem. This team really needs a smallish, quick WR (like Kevin Williams) to provide skills/routes that our bigger WRs don't have.

I think Crayton is supposed to serve that role - I don't think he has been used enough this year.
 

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You can't tell me that every single receiver is running the wrong routes. If this is the case, either we've lucked out into the dumbest individuals on earth, or the coaching staff just doesn't know how to teach.

You can be a brain all you want, but if you don't know how to get your point across to the student, you suck as well.
 

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Clove;2511980 said:
You can't tell me that every single receiver is running the wrong routes. If this is the case, either we've lucked out into the dumbest individuals on earth, or the coaching staff just doesn't know how to teach.

You can be a brain all you want, but if you don't know how to get your point across to the student, you suck as well.

After seeing how often they are lined up in the wrong spot and Romo has to correct them, I absolutely believe that it's possible we have people running wrong routes often enough to be a major issue.
 

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Look out, Jason is calling another 7 step drop in the face of another blitz.


Great work, ginger.
 

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Jimz31;2511820 said:
No, it goes to the WR's discipline in sticking with the play that is called.

Personally, I would have pulled the WR's aside and told them that if they do it again, I would sit them...no matter WHO it was.

Does Romo control where the legs of the WR's go?

This is just crazy.

So the Cowboys just somehow acquired 5-7 wide receivers who all don't know how to run routes?

Give me a break.

Yes, Romo controls where the legs of the WRs go because he's the one who TELLS them where to go when he's in the huddle/at the line of scrimmage.

And, as I said before, I don't think Garrett has too many plays with designed routes. From what I can tell, it's a "sight adjustment" offense...similar to the K-gun in Buffalo where Jim Kelly got to basically call his own plays at the line. That's what Romo is doing...and it works a lot better when the team is in comeback or under 2 minute/get in FG range mode than when they are in the fat part of the game.
 

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Clove;2511980 said:
You can't tell me that every single receiver is running the wrong routes. If this is the case, either we've lucked out into the dumbest individuals on earth, or the coaching staff just doesn't know how to teach.

You can be a brain all you want, but if you don't know how to get your point across to the student, you suck as well.

I think it comes down to accountability and discipline - Wade/Garrett/Sherman may not have control of these guys. If they are running the wrong routes, they need to have their rears on the bench until they decide to learn the playbook and follow along.
 
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