WR Speculation

[Hailmary]

:bang2:

What? It's a fair question. If we are interested in all these guys, their blocking ability should somewhat factor into it. Not saying it's huge factor, but it is a factor.

Do you not think blocking is a key element to the position?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I know there hasn't been a lot of talk about this guy however I am curious as to whats Andre Johnson situation at Houston. Their offense is terrible is his contract up or close to being up. If so I think he could/should be brought in.

 

[BLT]

I do not believe we are even concerned with the WR position.....with the emergence of Austin.......we are set.

im sorry but 1 good game does not been austin has emerged.

 

[Holloway805]

What? It's a fair question. If we are interested in all these guys, their blocking ability should somewhat factor into it. Not saying it's huge factor, but it is a factor.

Do you not think blocking is a key element to the position?

I will agree with one part of the above statement. Blocking ability should SOMEWHAT factor into it. At this stage of the season it would be nice if the Cowboys had a WR who would take some heat off of T.O. If it was me making the call, blocking would have very little to do with who that wr was. We have plenty of blockers. I actually like the chemistry of the receivers we have now.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I know there hasn't been a lot of talk about this guy however I am curious as to whats Andre Johnson situation at Houston. Their offense is terrible is his contract up or close to being up. If so I think he could/should be brought in.

Very unlikely Houston would ever let him go. He would make an interesting addition for sure.

 

[CATCH17]

If Dallas got their hands on Andre Johnson I would cry.

I'd take him over anyone on that list.

He is TO jr.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Very unlikely Houston would ever let him go. He would make an interesting addition for sure.

True however he has to be getting frustrated I wonder how many years left he has on his contract.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Jerry was on Norm this week, and was asked the question if we had enough money under the cap to go get a receiver if one became available. He said yes, and by Adam's last update, we have 7.3 million - plenty of room to fit him this year, and sign him in the offseason.

Yes, Jerry said they could get a receiver is one were available.

But that doesn't mean the Cowboys are inclined too.

Yes, there is room under the cap this year in order to accommodate another somewhat expensive player but how's that going to affect next year's salary cap/budget?

Right now Colombo and Canty are UFAs and then we have RFAs that need to be resigned. AdamJT13 has already said on at least a couple of occasions that cap space will be at a premium next year due to the ending of the collective bargaining agreement-- and I don't think anyone needs to be reminded that right now this team has a lot of expensive contracts on the roster.

Then you have the big questions-- Does Roy Williams want to come here and be a 3-catch-per-game guy? Think about that...

Think about the affect that would have on both Roy Williams and TO.

Oh, so you want to cut back throwing LESS to TO in order to justify the expensive new receiver you just picked up?

How well do you think that's going to play in Peoria?

I'm thinking not well.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Yes, Jerry said they could get a receiver is one were available.

But that doesn't mean the Cowboys are inclined too.

Yes, there is room under the cap this year in order to accommodate another somewhat expensive player but how's that going to affect next year's salary cap/budget?

Right now Colombo and Canty are UFAs and then we have RFAs that need to be resigned. AdamJT13 has already said on at least a couple of occasions that cap space will be at a premium next year due to the ending of the collective bargaining agreement-- and I don't think anyone needs to be reminded that right now this team has a lot of expensive contracts on the roster.

Then you have the big questions-- Does Roy Williams want to come here and be a 3-catch-per-game guy? Think about that...

Think about the affect that would have on both Roy Williams and TO.

Oh, so you want to cut back throwing LESS to TO in order to justify the expensive new receiver you just picked up?

How well do you think that's going to play in Peoria?

I'm thinking not well.

Why would he be a 3 game per catch guy ???

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Why would he be a 3 game per catch guy ???

Because once you dole out the receptions to TO, Witten, Crayton... the backs, plus the reserve TE's then there isn't much left for the other WR-- even if that wide receiver is the #2.

You bring in a Roy Williams and you take receptions away from three guys you just doled out decent to large-scale contracts too:

Owens
Witten
Crayton

How many passes do you think this offense is going to throw?

This offense had 342 completions last year, with last year's #2 receiver catching 50 balls-- 50 divided by 16 = 3.125 balls per game.

And that's without having a terrific receiver coming out of the backfield in Felix Jones and that's without the apparent progress of Miles Austin and hopefully Sam Hurd.

Again, I say, who you gonna take receptions from in order to justify a Roy Williams and what makes you think the people you take receptions from aren't going to raise heck over it?

And personally I don't know if this offense even completes 342 passes again this year-- I think the number will be lower, with an increased emphasis on the running game. So now the "pie" could become even smaller.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Because once you dole out the receptions to TO, Witten, Crayton... the backs, plus the reserve TE's then there isn't much left for the other WR-- even if that wide receiver is the #2.

You bring in a Roy Williams and you take receptions away from three guys you just doled out decent to large-scale contracts too:

Owens
Witten
Crayton

How many passes do you think this offense is going to throw?

This offense had 342 completions last year, with last year's #2 receiver catching 50 balls-- 50 divided by 16 = 3.125 balls per game.

And that's without having a terrific receiver coming out of the backfield in Felix Jones and that's without the apparent progress of Miles Austin and hopefully Sam Hurd.

Again, I say, who you gonna take receptions from in order to justify a Roy Williams and what makes you think the people you take receptions from aren't going to raise heck over it?

And personally I don't know if this offense even completes 342 passes again this year-- I think the number will be lower, with an increased emphasis on the running game. So now the "pie" could become even smaller.

So your putting Crayton and Austin ahead of Roy Williams ??? I would take the Catches from the back up TE 's RB's and #3 and #4 WR and add those to Roy Williams. I really don't see how if we get this guy how he wouldn't be our 3 option behind Witten and TO.

 

[MTCowboys88]

Yes, Jerry said they could get a receiver is one were available.

But that doesn't mean the Cowboys are inclined too.

Yes, there is room under the cap this year in order to accommodate another somewhat expensive player but how's that going to affect next year's salary cap/budget?

Right now Colombo and Canty are UFAs and then we have RFAs that need to be resigned. AdamJT13 has already said on at least a couple of occasions that cap space will be at a premium next year due to the ending of the collective bargaining agreement-- and I don't think anyone needs to be reminded that right now this team has a lot of expensive contracts on the roster.

Then you have the big questions-- Does Roy Williams want to come here and be a 3-catch-per-game guy? Think about that...

Think about the affect that would have on both Roy Williams and TO.

Oh, so you want to cut back throwing LESS to TO in order to justify the expensive new receiver you just picked up?

How well do you think that's going to play in Peoria?

I'm thinking not well.

He's not catching 3 per game if he comes here. Granted, he'll have to realize we have multiple weapons, and gameplan will dictate where we go. However, don't underestimate the power of winning. When Detroit started out well last year, Roy didn't complain at all when he didn't get his catches. They were winning. He's complaining about the offense now because they're 0-3. Alot like T.O. They're stars, and WR's are inherinently selfish - they want the ball and know they can impact the game with one play.
T.O. has just come off of a 2 catch day and was completely team oriented- I think he's turned the corner and wants a ring- period. If Williams doesn't get 8-10 targets per game for the first year, he's knows on a contending team, back in his home state, and knows that he'll be the man after a couple of years.

I realize this is a pipe dream to get Williams, but I'm not warm and fuzzy with a future Crayton - Austin starting lineup . I don't think Jerry is,either. He knows we need a true #1 to continue to scare defenses after T.O retires.

 

[dallasfan]

1. Steve Smith. Him opposite Owens would be sick. 5% chance. Carolina is good. They aren't going to trade unless unless the offer is unreal. That isn't likely.

Like you said, Carolina has no incentive to trade him

2. Anquan Boldin. I wanted him in that Draft. I have always liked him. Once he has the ball he is hard to bring down. 10% chance. I just don't believe AZ will move him.

While I don't think Arizona will make the playoffs, they'll be competitive enough that they won't move him

3. Roy Williams. My feelings about him are hardly a mystery. 80% chance. If Detroit loses next week after the bye this week, they need to look towards the future, that means stockpiling Draft picks.

Who ever the GM is now, I suspect won't be this offseason, therefor I doubt he has the authority to trade their best player

4. Chad Johnson. I refuse to call him Ocho Cinco. I don't care if that is his legal name. 10% chance. Just like AZ, I don't think they will move him.

I think he'll move this offseason, but doubt he does now

5. Torry Holt. I don't think we need a WR over 30 which is why he and Chad are at the bottom of the list. 50% chance if he is released. 5% chance we'd trade for him.

Same as Chad, maybe this offseason

 

[Hailmary]

I know there hasn't been a lot of talk about this guy however I am curious as to whats Andre Johnson situation at Houston. Their offense is terrible is his contract up or close to being up. If so I think he could/should be brought in.

Not gonna happen. He signed an 8yr 60mil contract last year.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Not gonna happen. He signed an 8yr 60mil contract last year.

Ah i see I wasn't sure of his contract status then he stuck in the that hell hole

 

[MichaelWinicki]

So your putting Crayton and Austin ahead of Roy Williams ??? I would take the Catches from the back up TE 's RB's and #3 and #4 WR and add those to Roy Williams. I really don't see how if we get this guy how he wouldn't be our 3 option behind Witten and TO.

No I'm not putting Crayton/Austin ahead of Roy Williams.

What I said was that the #2 receiver in this offense last year only caught 50 balls. And that was without a reliable #3 or #4 receiver.

Do you think adding Roy Williams would totally eliminate any balls being thrown to Crayton as the #3 receiver???

Not hardly.

So again, where are Roy Williams receptions going to come from?

The fact is the receiver position for this team is better than it was last year when 342 completions were made-- and that's not figuring Felix Jones into the equation. Nor does it take into account that this offense this year may not throw as often as it did last year.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

No I'm not putting Crayton/Austin ahead of Roy Williams.

What I said was that the #2 receiver in this offense last year only caught 50 balls. And that was without a reliable #3 or #4 receiver.

Do you think adding Roy Williams would totally eliminate any balls being thrown to Crayton as the #3 receiver???

Not hardly.

So again, where are Roy Williams receptions going to come from?

The fact is the receiver position for this team is better than it was last year when 342 completions were made-- and that's not figuring Felix Jones into the equation. Nor does it take into account that this offense this year may not throw as often as it did last year.

Well in 06 in TG last year playing for us he and TO went over 1,000 yards and both had 70+ catches Crayton had 36 that year and witten 64 that year. Hurd had 5 Fasano 14 MB3 23 and JJ 9. So if the we do pick up a viable #2 options we could defintley spread the ball around. Although I would want Witten to have in about the 75+ range when it comes to catches. However we could defintley make it happen though.

 

[EveryoneElse]

As much as I'd love a #1 playing second fiddle to TO, I think what we have going is a recipe for success.

You need role players to go along with your super stars.....just ask the Yankees........they would be a much better team with some role players sprinkled in there somewhere, imo.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well in 06 in TG last year playing for us he and TO went over 1,000 yards and both had 70+ catches Crayton had 36 that year and witten 64 that year. Hurd had 5 Fasano 14 MB3 23 and JJ 9. So if the we do pick up a viable #2 options we could defintley spread the ball around. Although I would want Witten to have in about the 75+ range when it comes to catches. However we could defintley make it happen though.

Like you said Witten is going to get a lot more than 64 catches.

Then you list Hurd, Fasano, MB3 and JJ with a total of 51 catches.

I can tell you that Bennett, Austin, Hurd, MB3 and FJ will have more catches than that total.

The fact is that this offense is built around a no. 1 WR, a TE and everyone else is a distant 3rd.

The #2 receiver in this offense isn't that important quite frankly.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

As much as I'd love a #1 playing second fiddle to TO, I think what we have going is a recipe for success.

You need role players to go along with your super stars.....just ask the Yankees........they would be a much better team with some role players sprinkled in there somewhere, imo.

I want a dynasty if we could pick up another #1 WR him him play in #2 for the next 2 years and then be our #1 after TO is gone then thats even better for us.

Like you said Witten is going to get a lot more than 64 catches.

Then you list Hurd, Fasano, MB3 and JJ with a total of 51 catches.

I can tell you that Bennett, Austin, Hurd, MB3 and FJ will have more catches than that total.

The fact is that this offense is built around a no. 1 WR, a TE and everyone else is a distant 3rd.

The #2 receiver in this offense isn't that important quite frankly.

I don't think so maybe right now they will get more catches than back then however I don't think they would be able to take catches from RW and Crayton. Nor do I think bennett will have more than 15 catches.