WRs Harvin and Tate, reportedly positive for marijuana

[alancdc]

Well.....weed is ILLEGAL. It doesn't matter if you like it or not....it's ILLEGAL.

It's against NFL rules....not matter what your stance is on pot the fact remains that it will result in a SUSPENSION eventually.

If this guy can't even stay away from the stuff long enough to pass the most important drug test of his life, then what's going to happen when he has millions? This guy is someone that you can't count on.

First, I don't like weed. I was joking. 2nd, I was making a reference to Santonio Holmes getting busted last year for smoking weed and not getting suspended by the NFL. Maybe you haven't seen the movie, Friday, or you would have gotten the joke. Take it easy. It also didn't seem to be a factor in the success of Warren Sapp in the NFL. I don't remember him being suspended? Could be wrong.

 

[Bizwah]

First, I don't like weed. I was joking. 2nd, I was making a reference to Santonio Holmes getting busted last year for smoking weed and not getting suspended by the NFL. Maybe you haven't seen the movie, Friday, or you would have gotten the joke. Take it easy. It also didn't seem to be a factor in the success of Warren Sapp in the NFL. I don't remember him being suspended? Could be wrong.

I wasn't trying to be snotty. I had read a few posts that were taking a "who cares" attitude toward the pot issue and I responded to one that had "weed" in it.

I wasn't yelling or anything...I was trying to emphasize certain words. I guess it came across wrong...no, I haven't seen Friday.

Warren Sapp dropped to the middle of round one due to his weed issues. Of course the NFL took a lighter stand on it then than they do now.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Pot stays in your system for 30-days or more. it can be picked up on a drug screen a month later.

So the idea he burned some chronic before the draft might mean he did 28-days before the draft and just didn't know this about pot. How long it lingers in the system.

Because there are a bunch of people on this board that seem to not have known.

 

[Hoofbite]

Pot stays in your system for 30-days or more. it can be picked up on a drug screen a month later.

So the idea he burned some chronic before the draft might mean he did 28-days before the draft and just didn't know this about pot. How long it lingers in the system.

Because there are a bunch of people on this board that seem to not have known.

I hope you aren't saying that this would somehow excuse him.

 

[TwoDeep3]

I hope you aren't saying that this would somehow excuse him.

Not at all. Simply stating the idea that he is a moron for doing it, "right before the combine" has a flaw.

 

[Hoofbite]

Not at all. Simply stating the idea that he is a moron for doing it, "right before the combine" has a flaw.

Only if you believe he wasn't aware of how long it would stay in his system. He'd be a fool not to know. In fact, I'd say it would be nearly impossible for him not to know.

 

[speedkilz88]

Pot stays in your system for 30-days or more. it can be picked up on a drug screen a month later.

So the idea he burned some chronic before the draft might mean he did 28-days before the draft and just didn't know this about pot. How long it lingers in the system.

Because there are a bunch of people on this board that seem to not have known.

You would think that even a month or two before the combine the guy would have had the sense to lay off for the combine and the kind of money involved with the draft.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Only if you believe he wasn't aware of how long it would stay in his system. He'd be a fool not to know. In fact, I'd say it would be nearly impossible for him not to know.

Then explain all the people in this thread that didn't know.

Ya know, pot doesn't come with a warning label.

 

[alancdc]

I wasn't trying to be snotty. I had read a few posts that were taking a "who cares" attitude toward the pot issue and I responded to one that had "weed" in it.

I wasn't yelling or anything...I was trying to emphasize certain words. I guess it came across wrong...no, I haven't seen Friday.

Warren Sapp dropped to the middle of round one due to his weed issues. Of course the NFL took a lighter stand on it then than they do now.

Hey thanks man. No problem. I gotcha. It was more a dig at Holmes and trying to be funny with a reference from a movie line. Yes, Sapp dropped to 12, I think. I do tend to agree though, even though SAPP didn't have any problems in the NFL, it does speak to a lack of maturity to not be able to stay away from the stuff.

 

[joseephuss]

Pot stays in your system for 30-days or more. it can be picked up on a drug screen a month later.

So the idea he burned some chronic before the draft might mean he did 28-days before the draft and just didn't know this about pot. How long it lingers in the system.

Because there are a bunch of people on this board that seem to not have known.

Harvin should know more about pot and how long it will stay in his system than anyone posting on this board or the average person because marijuana use in his profession tends to get spot lighted a lot more. I won't possibly lose millions of dollars if I smoked a little pot two weeks ago,but Harvin might.

Each year we read stories about players failing a drug test before the draft or during the season. It is not unreasonable to expect Harvin to have heard those same stories because they can impact his life. In fact he should have even more information than either you or me. He probably has been drug tested before and also has people around him telling him what he should be prepared to face when preparing for the combine or any of his pro days.

I don't know whether to call it being dumb, being naive or just being too full of themselves for any player to fail a drug test. They know they are going to be tested. They can choose not to do the drugs and they can also choose to find a way around the tests. From what I heard it is pretty easy to beat the tests the NFL administers.

I don't smoke the stuff, but I am not against pot use. Doesn't matter because it is illegal and against NFL rules. It is irresponsible to get caught whether they smoked it 24 days or 24 hours before they got tested.

 

[dstew60105]

That's not what I heard. I read somewhere that Urban Meyer would only comment on Harvin's football abilities....that he would avoid answering anything about his character.

I wish I could remember where I read that.....otherwise, I would have provided a link.

Anyway, if he's there at 51...or even at 69...it would be awfully tempting to take him. But I perfectly understand why we would want to pass.

I doubt the question will even arise for us.

Trying to find the link where Meyer said Harvin was one of his favorite players and that he loved him like a son. The article also talked about Harvin's behavior while in G-Ville and that he was not a problem.

 

[Bizwah]

Not at all. Simply stating the idea that he is a moron for doing it, "right before the combine" has a flaw.

I totally disagree here TD.

How is it anything other than moronic?

He knew it was coming.....He had millions of dollars on the line....I think smoking MJ is moronic to begin with....but aside from that, you'd think he'd use his brain to ask around. You'd think he'd want to know how long the stuff would be in his system.

He didn't...apparently...

Moronic.....

Of course, all of this could be fabricated. In that case, the person/persons responsible for spreading this rumor should be prosecuted.

 

[Doomsday101]

I totally disagree here TD.

How is it anything other than moronic?

He knew it was coming.....He had millions of dollars on the line....I think smoking MJ is moronic to begin with....but aside from that, you'd think he'd use his brain to ask around. You'd think he'd want to know how long the stuff would be in his system.

He didn't...apparently...

Moronic.....

Of course, all of this could be fabricated. In that case, the person/persons responsible for spreading this rumor should be prosecuted.

I agree. This test is not coming as a suprise hell we know that they test at the combines and these college kids know it as well. Now if you know it and still do it that is pretty stupid. It can cost you million. If weed is not that big of a deal then why can't guys stop doing it? why risk it? Evidently some can't stop even when they know test are coming up and I would not want a player who can't control himself. See Leon Lett how many times did he flunk test even when he knew he would be tested far more often than others because he was on the substance abuse program.

 

[Hoofbite]

Then explain all the people in this thread that didn't know.

Ya know, pot doesn't come with a warning label.

Maybe they don't smoke.

And if they do, I'd bet they aren't regularly tested as a condition of their eligibility for some life event.

He hangs around people who smoke pot (unless we're supposed to believe he sits in his house and gets high alone) and if you smoke pot and are tested you talk about how to pass the test. I guess we could think he knows all about passing tests when dirty but doesn't have a clue as to how long he would be dirty. If that would even make sense.

He's obviously a guy teams are looking at and unless he is completely oblivious to football, he has to know what drug issues will do to his draft stock. Adarius Bowman is a prime example of what happens. Granted he had more of a history and it was coupled with a few other things but he was left out in the cold on draft day and big reason for that was his weed problem. Harvin won't go undrafted but he's gonna slide a few spots which will cost him cash.

I'm not positive but I haven't read of any previous failed tests. He knows how to pass the tests unless we're to believe that this was his first time smoking weed. If that is the case, he's a bigger idiot than anyone could have imagined.

Basically, you'd have to give him every possible benefit of the doubt and then believe that he was so oblivious that he didn't take it upon himself to find out.

You'd have to believe that he didn't know, didn't take it upon himself to find out, was never told by any friends or teammates, was never told by his agent (someone who loses money if he fails), and just tried it out for the first time less than a month ago.

If you can buy into that, have at it.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Ya good call JerryAdvocate ...Tate's a moron if he can't take this seriously and knows that it will drop his value..yet he STILL does it. What a failure. He's a punk anyways.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ya good call JerryAdvocate ...Tate's a moron if he can't take this seriously and knows that it will drop his value..yet he STILL does it. What a failure. He's a punk anyways.

 

[Doomsday101]

Pot stays in your system for 30-days or more. it can be picked up on a drug screen a month later.

So the idea he burned some chronic before the draft might mean he did 28-days before the draft and just didn't know this about pot. How long it lingers in the system.

Because there are a bunch of people on this board that seem to not have known.

That seems to be the rule of thumb but does not work exactly that way. People who are casual users with low body fat tend not to store THC for long. A person weight, amount of body fat, how much they smoke and even the strength of the weed they are smoking can stay in the body longer or less depending on these factors.