WWYD? Opportunity cost of RB/DE

[Matts4313]

We dont have unlimited $$ an draft picks, so every choice you make is an opportunity cost. Which brings me to my question inspired by this article:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...015-when-will-top-players-go-at-each-position


You have the 27th overall pick, you desperately need a pass rusher and your stud RB is a FA. Lets assume Murray is wanting ~$8M/year. So which of these do YOU do:

Option one - sign Murray to an $8M/yr deal and use your 1st rounder on a DE? The problem here, is that will likely be the ~4th/5th DE off the board.

Option two - You use your 1st rounder on a RB (who will likely be the best RB in the draft) and use that $8m to sign 1 premier DE (JPP?) or perhaps 2 mid tier pass rushers?

 

[Nation]

I'd use my 1st rounder on a defensive player or an offensive tackle, same for my 2nd. I'd use my cap space on defense as well. Running Back can be had in the 3rd or 4th round.

 

[Crown Royal]

It's a good question. I dunno what to do with the 27th overall pick - it's going to be tough to find a truly impactful defensive player. In all likelihood i sign some mid-tier depth in FA to bolster my pass rush and continue the wave-attack approach with some better players and take whatever I can find at 27.

 

[reddyuta]

I am a Melvin Gordon fan but he is a luxury which I don't think we can afford ,we can always draft one in the later rds .I dont like our LB situation either,it should be a top priority in the draft.

 

[theogt]

If I were a GM, I would never under any circumstances spend a first round pick on a running back. For that matter, I wouldn't spend a second round pick on a running back.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

I'd use my 1st rounder on a defensive player or an offensive tackle, same for my 2nd. I'd use my cap space on defense as well. Running Back can be had in the 3rd or 4th round.

Nailed

 

[Matts4313]

As a rule of thumb I agree that you use your Second round pick on a RB. But I felt that way about center too, and look at Fredrick. Getting a stud RB that can start day one on a 5 year rookie deal at the VERY END of RD1.... Well, it makes sense.

As a reminder, RD2+ rookies are 4 year deals.

 

[Galian Beast]

Whole offseason should be directed around improving this defense.

 

[Danger]

First three picks should address the defense. DL, CB and FS all need to be addressed. There's great value in RBs in rounds 4-5.

 

[xwalker]

We dont have unlimited $$ an draft picks, so every choice you make is an opportunity cost. Which brings me to my question inspired by this article:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...015-when-will-top-players-go-at-each-position


You have the 27th overall pick, you desperately need a pass rusher and your stud RB is a FA. Lets assume Murray is wanting ~$8M/year. So which of these do YOU do:

Option one - sign Murray to an $8M/yr deal and use your 1st rounder on a DE? The problem here, is that will likely be the ~4th/5th DE off the board.

Option two - You use your 1st rounder on a RB (who will likely be the best RB in the draft) and use that $8m to sign 1 premier DE (JPP?) or perhaps 2 mid tier pass rushers?

That is short term thinking. Normally DEs get paid much more than RBs and that a big reason way more DEs get drafted in the 1st round.

If you hit on a DE in the draft it is more valuable than if you hit on a RB.

 

[Matts4313]

That is short term thinking. Normally DEs get paid much more than RBs and that a big reason way more DEs get drafted in the 1st round.

If you hit on a DE in the draft it is more valuable than if you hit on a RB.

Right, but which is more likely to succeed - the best RB in the draft or the 5the best DE?

 

[Derinyar]

I think you figure out what you're doing in FA first. Sign the players you think are reasonable values for their cap hit/salary. Then you go into the draft not saying I have to have X. If the Cowboys think Melvin Gordon is the best player available when they pick in the first and don't have options to trade down I think they should take him. I would prefer a defensive player or maybe an OT, but I would stick with my board and draft talent until at least the 4th to 5th round. After that you pick traits and guys that you don't think will survive down to UDFA territory.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'd use my 1st rounder on a defensive player or an offensive tackle, same for my 2nd. I'd use my cap space on defense as well. Running Back can be had in the 3rd or 4th round.

Yep.


Justin Fosett this season:
235 carries,
1,266 yards,
5.4 ypc,
8
TD's

And this guy was an unwanted free agent who cost the Ravens $750K this season.

No way am I blowing a 1st round pick or anything more than $5 mil per season on a RB... And $5 mil per season is at the VERY TOP of my pay chart. I'd much prefer like $3 mil per season.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I don't like taking RBs early in the draft. I haven't done any type of breakdown on RBs in the draft so I really cannot say if this applies or not to guys like Gordon but so many seem to struggle in pass protection as rookies. And because of that a large number of rookie RBs don't even see much of the field.

 

[Echo9]

We dont have unlimited $$ an draft picks, so every choice you make is an opportunity cost. Which brings me to my question inspired by this article:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...015-when-will-top-players-go-at-each-position


You have the 27th overall pick, you desperately need a pass rusher and your stud RB is a FA. Lets assume Murray is wanting ~$8M/year. So which of these do YOU do:

Option one - sign Murray to an $8M/yr deal and use your 1st rounder on a DE? The problem here, is that will likely be the ~4th/5th DE off the board.

Option two - You use your 1st rounder on a RB (who will likely be the best RB in the draft) and use that $8m to sign 1 premier DE (JPP?) or perhaps 2 mid tier pass rushers?

The problem with this is that the FA period will be long finished by the time the draft rolls around, so we'd have to make that decision without knowing who's available in the draft. 8M per year is too much for a RB especially since it's gonna be at least a 4yr deal. 6M per is doable though... I think.

On the flip side, I don't think JPP is really an elite player for the $$ he's going to cost. I think JPP is the kind of guy that might rest a bit after he's gotten his money. If a guy like JPP was available in the draft, you take him no question, but odds are that kind of talent would be long gone. Overall, I'd like to try to get a Premier DE in FA, but there really aren't any available that would be worth the huge cost.

 

[Matts4313]

what about grabbing a couple mid tier guys, like Brandon Graham and Jared Odrick?

 

[JD_KaPow]

We dont have unlimited $$ an draft picks, so every choice you make is an opportunity cost. Which brings me to my question inspired by this article:

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...015-when-will-top-players-go-at-each-position


You have the 27th overall pick, you desperately need a pass rusher and your stud RB is a FA. Lets assume Murray is wanting ~$8M/year. So which of these do YOU do:

Option one - sign Murray to an $8M/yr deal and use your 1st rounder on a DE? The problem here, is that will likely be the ~4th/5th DE off the board.

Option two - You use your 1st rounder on a RB (who will likely be the best RB in the draft) and use that $8m to sign 1 premier DE (JPP?) or perhaps 2 mid tier pass rushers?

Option three - I let Murray walk and use my 1st rounder on the best player available. Which is almost guaranteed not to be a RB.

 

[Vanilla2]

cowboys need help on all levels of the defense.

There is bound to be a defensive player worth taking at 27 who can come in and help.

 

[BAT]

RB is one of the more talented and deeper positions in this draft. That said, who we sign in the offseason will greatly influence which player/position is taken with the first pick. I am all for the best player regardless of position.

 

[romothesavior]

Go look at the list of top ten rushers in the NFL this year. Then look at their draft position.

Drafting a running back in the first round is foolish in today's game. So is breaking the bank for one.