X.Woods INT - State Your Opinion

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The X.Woods INT in practice has been debated with regards to why the pick happened.

The 1st image below is the point when the ball was leaving Dak's hand.

The 2nd image below has the INT super-imposed onto the 1st image.
- Where you clearly see #18, Woods is in front and has jumped to catch the ball.
- Everything same as 1st image except Cobb/Woods added at the point of the INT.

The question is with regards to the route by Cobb.

If Cobb stops or cuts inside, does the INT still happen?




:lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:
A whole thread about an interception thrown the first week of practice! Jeeeeeezus!
It's all Garrett's fat because he SUCKS!
 

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I like Woods. He is no ET but he is a scrappy blue collar type guy.

I bet this will be a comparison thread topic the entire season. And many will over hype what ET does, and not give Woods the credit he may deserve.
JMO, but I do not think I am too far off from it.

Not saying Woods compares to ET. Just saying what could happen if Woods plays well or if ET does not play his usual style.
 

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Happy to see Woods progressing is my primary thought here..

Cobb and Dak will need time together to get in sync, expect more mishaps till then..

Blame is for children, carry on...
 

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@xwalker , I hope some of the responses do not persuade you into not posting these types of threads. The superimposing imagery is a very good idea. That said I would also hope you expand upon the concept to include run plays, linebacker stunts, etc. No one outside the players and coaches know exactly what is happening after any snap, and it is just preseason, but it is also highly interesting discussing the what ifs.
 

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Yes....clearly it was Dak's fault...lol. He is new to this offense while Cobb has been in it for years...oh wait!
Dak clearly didn't see the CB blitz and clearly threw the ball too late based on the adjustment Cobb made. That could be Dak's fault as well as it could be Aaron Rodgers'.

Nice de-rail though.
 

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Sorry, but I don't see the point to this post. Why do we need to analyze every single thing that happens in camp?
Because it's a discussion about actual football, and not a bunch of whining about holdouts?
 

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The X.Woods INT in practice has been debated with regards to why the pick happened.

The 1st image below is the point when the ball was leaving Dak's hand.

The 2nd image below has the INT super-imposed onto the 1st image.
- Where you clearly see #18, Woods is in front and has jumped to catch the ball.
- Everything same as 1st image except Cobb/Woods added at the point of the INT.

The question is with regards to the route by Cobb.

If Cobb stops or cuts inside, does the INT still happen?





The best was the Heath pick. Even when he makes a play, its typically luck. Ball initially bounces right off his stone hands. Should have just picked it clean. But because he sucks, he cant make the simple pick. But low and behold, as he is on the ground, the ball pops up and down right into his lap.

Sometimes its better to be lucky then good.
 

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Dak clearly didn't see the CB blitz and clearly threw the ball too late based on the adjustment Cobb made. That could be Dak's fault as well as it could be Aaron Rodgers'.

Nice de-rail though.

Looked to me like Dak made a bad read or throw. But you never know. The Heath pick wasn't his fault, however.
 

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1. Interceptions happen.
2. They are usually the result of QB and receiver communication errors.
3. Or, they're tipped.
4. Sometimes DBs just make great plays.

Rarely do NFL quarterbacks just make horrible throws for picks. Usually there are multiple things that go wrong.
It's both of them. The lack of chemistry between them has been noted. Hopefully it is worked out by regular season.
i have never seen such a meaningless play at such an early part of training camp be so blow out of proportion.

Dak threw an interception, get over it....holy crap guys
Happy to see Woods progressing is my primary thought here..

Cobb and Dak will need time together to get in sync, expect more mishaps till then..

Blame is for children, carry on...
Dak clearly didn't see the CB blitz and clearly threw the ball too late based on the adjustment Cobb made. That could be Dak's fault as well as it could be Aaron Rodgers'.

Nice de-rail though.


I did NOT ask who was to blame.

The question is "what if" Cobb stops or cuts inside.

I really just wanted to see how people would analyze the play.

It's a practice INT, I do NOT have a need to defend Dak or hype Woods or criticize Cobb on a practice pay like this one.
 

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@xwalker , I hope some of the responses do not persuade you into not posting these types of threads. The superimposing imagery is a very good idea. That said I would also hope you expand upon the concept to include run plays, linebacker stunts, etc. No one outside the players and coaches know exactly what is happening after any snap, and it is just preseason, but it is also highly interesting discussing the what ifs.

Thanks!

I just wanted to go though the process of analyzing the play and the concept that had been posted about Cobb and Dak not being on the same page with regards to the route.

I don't really care about blame on a practice play. It's better to make these mistakes now such that they can be corrected.

The super imposed image was just something I wanted to experiment with in regards to facilitating discussion about these types of plays.
- It worked well with this play because the camera angle didn't really change.​
 

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@xwalker , I hope some of the responses do not persuade you into not posting these types of threads. The superimposing imagery is a very good idea. That said I would also hope you expand upon the concept to include run plays, linebacker stunts, etc. No one outside the players and coaches know exactly what is happening after any snap, and it is just preseason, but it is also highly interesting discussing the what ifs.
That's right, we all want to know why Dak farted this morning!
 

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That's right, we all want to know why Dak farted this morning!
Well, an earlier discussed observation was about the difference between feet and inches. One good fart during a throwing motion could be a debatable catalyst.

It is a joke peoples. :D Please don't call me a hater. :(:p
 

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Well, an earlier discussed observation was about the difference between feet and inches. One good fart during a throwing motion could be a debatable catalyst.

It is a joke peoples. :D Please don't call me a hater. :(:p
A right timed fart can help his deep ball.
 

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Dak better watch out, because Cooper Rush has supposedly been spot on with his throws this training camp. :muttley:

That being said, per Moore, as reported by Micky, Dak should have gone somewhere based on the look or Cobb has to cut his route.
 

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The best was the Heath pick. Even when he makes a play, its typically luck. Ball initially bounces right off his stone hands. Should have just picked it clean. But because he sucks, he cant make the simple pick. But low and behold, as he is on the ground, the ball pops up and down right into his lap.

Sometimes its better to be lucky then good.

My question is just "what if" Cobb ran the route differently.

I don't care about the blame, just the analysis of this play.

It had been posted previously that possibly Cobb might have run a different route then Dak expected.

I don't know what route Cobb was expected to run. He might have done it perfectly.

I just want to analyze "what if" Cobb did run it differently.
 

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There are bigger issues than whether or not Cobb came back, primarily, they were pre-snap.

1. Cobb read the CB blitz, Dak didn't.
2. We don't know what the hot route was, but Cobb just runs a fade.

Dak threw a slant or comeback ball, but that's not what Cobb was running. Idk who gets the blame (I'd say Dak, but it's play action which might change the hot), but the pick was thrown pre-snap.

Pretty much that is what Moore said, as reported by Mickey. He said the following:

1. Dak has to go somewhere else based on the look.
2. Cobb should have cut off his route.

The former clearly alludes to what you said, that part of it was Dak not reading it properly.
 
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