Yahoo Sports Article: HR record a joke

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Mash;1586932 said:
True...

and the facts are against him.....yet nothing has been proven......it just doesnt make sense for Baseball in letting a player reach this achievement if all these facts against the player were true.

That is a different case altogether, considering MLB's and Commissioner Selig's negligence during the "Steroids Era". They turned a blind eye when it was going on and didn't enforce testing. If they cast judgment on these players they are just as guilty.
 

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carphalen5150;1586463 said:
I do find it funny though that people readily think that Bonds used steroids, however you never hear those same people accept that many of the pitchers he faced were using too.

I do think Bonds used steroids. So what? It's pretty damn obvious. You never here the names of the pitchers because they probably don't own the home run record.

....and for the record...**** them too. They should be out of baseball as well. It's just unfortunate that that league wont do more to curb its own downfalls.
 

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tomson75;1587280 said:
I do think Bonds used steroids. So what? It's pretty damn obvious. You never here the names of the pitchers because they probably don't own the home run record.

....and for the record...**** them too. They should be out of baseball as well. It's just unfortunate that that league wont do more to curb its own downfalls.
Boo hoo...it was an era of baseball. Accept it.
 

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carphalen5150;1587542 said:
Boo hoo...it was an era of baseball. Accept it.

It WAS an era of baseball? I'll cry on my own time. Thanks. Good post. Well thought out. Come again. :rolleyes:
 

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tomson75;1587620 said:
It WAS an era of baseball? I'll cry on my own time. Thanks. Good post. Well thought out. Come again. :rolleyes:
You don't think it was an era of baseball? There are tons of players who's numbers blew up during this time in baseball, yet you are solely focused on Bonds because of the home run record. Are you asking McGwire and Sosa for the Summer of 98 back? Are you asking how Brady Anderson hit 51 HRs? Are you asking Eric Gagne how he went from so-so starting prospect to lights out closer?

If you want to put an asterisk by his name, fine, but the guy is the home run king. Even if he did use during his run baseball had no rules against it. Bonds is a prick, makes me wonder if you would be singing the same tune if it was a more commercially viable player...my guess is it would.
 

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carphalen5150;1587758 said:
You don't think it was an era of baseball? There are tons of players who's numbers blew up during this time in baseball, yet you are solely focused on Bonds because of the home run record. Are you asking McGwire and Sosa for the Summer of 98 back? Are you asking how Brady Anderson hit 51 HRs? Are you asking Eric Gagne how he went from so-so starting prospect to lights out closer?

If you want to put an asterisk by his name, fine, but the guy is the home run king. Even if he did use during his run baseball had no rules against it. Bonds is a prick, makes me wonder if you would be singing the same tune if it was a more commercially viable player...my guess is it would.

I think it still IS an era of baseball.

If you care to scroll up about two posts, you'll see I'm not solely focused on Bonds. I would absolutely like to see anyone involved be discredited. I'm talking about Bonds because that's what the thread is about.
 

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tomson75;1588033 said:
I think it still IS an era of baseball.

If you care to scroll up about two posts, you'll see I'm not solely focused on Bonds. I would absolutely like to see anyone involved be discredited. I'm talking about Bonds because that's what the thread is about.
You start wiping out everyone who was either suspected or confirmed as a user and you would have very little for this era. Also, steroids and HGH were not banned until recently...so you want to punish players retroactively?
 
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