Yankees fans. Hope Cashman has a plan
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A thumbs up for both deals the Yankees did today. Not major deals and maybe not enough to close the gap in the division but both Drew and Prado will benefit this club next season.
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I have no faith that Tanaka is coming back... And only slightly more that Pineda is. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Yankees claim an expensive "waiver" pitcher when one becomes available.
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Drew has no benefit to the Yankees next year. He's playing the last half of a basicallly 4 month deal from the Red Sox right now and you can't give him a QO so unrestricted FA at the end of the year. Prado is alright, but paid pretty well for it. Does make the Yankees better this year and Prado has at least some chance for a rebound.
It seems like the real question for this year would be is Jeter enough of a team player to be willing to go to DH after Beltran is healthy and have an infield of Teixeria, Prado, Drew and Headley.
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No way.
Wouldnt make any difference anyway. The AL East has finally been righted after about 15 years and the Skanks and Sux are right where they belong.
Orioles finish 1st
Jays & Rays fight over 2nd & 3rd.
Skanks and Sux take 4th & 5th.
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And it will probably be that way this year and maybe next.
But then after that... All bets are off as far as the Yankees and Red Sox being in the basement.
That's just the natural order of things.
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Orioles will blow it. It's too close.
This is a nice memory. Probably the root of your "skanks" lol
http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/0/v2685723/1996-alcs-gm-1-jeters-homer-brings-fame-to-maier
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Its possible but nothing would indicate that at this point. SP have been pitching well, and the bullpen has been lights out. Great defense. The bats have under performed some but they can hit. I'll go along with Colin Cowherd picking them to win the WS.
The maier play in so many ways is a perfect picture of jeters entire career. Cheap hits and average play, but credited with being a star.
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Orioles might not make the ALCS, but they should win the AL East.. We shall see.
One thing thats pretty certain is that the Sux and Skanks will be watching the post season just like me and you - on TV.
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Neither is certain. Although you might be right about the sox. Stay thirsty my friend.
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Man... between the bullpen and the new players we have a punchers chance.
Chase chasing the shots down lol
Teixeria scoops all ...
Chase chasing the shots down lol
Teixeria scoops all ...
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Anything is possible. Look at the Red Sux last year - over achieved by 15-20 games in the win column and won it all.
The smoke may continue to rise in NY and mirrors may not break, so yes, you guys have a chance.
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The Oriole's are reminding me of some of those string Yankee teams.
It's early yet but they look good.
If Buck finally got a world series win I would be happy for him. But his teams bow out at some point. I don't know if its him it the players or maybe they just weren't any good?
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Great post about the perception of Giradi as some great manager
Girardi got the most out of his team if by that we mean he used the very high priced veterans acquired by Cashman in only the exact roles one would expect - plugging them into the lineup and the field in the same roles they've had throughout their careers regardless of present performance. Despite no demonstrable creativity, leadership, or outside the box thinking - has been able to stay afloat thanks to the sheer overwhelming glut of highly paid veteran talent at his disposal.
When holes sprung up in his lineup his GM provided him with 12 million dollar utility player Martin Prado, 10.5 million dollar 3rd baseman Chase Headley, 10 million dollar shortstop Stephen Drew, and 10 million dollar starting pitcher Brandon McCarthy. Those 4 stopgap solutions alone are about 45 million worth of payroll and exceed the season opening payroll of the Houston Astros.
Getting the most out of this team would mean moving defensive apocalypse Derek Jeter off of Shortstop and finding a way to manage the public relations fallout from such a move. Getting the most out of his team would involve moving the worst regular hitter in his lineup - Derek Jeter again - out of the 2 hole and down in the order. (Guess how often Jonathan Schoop and his similar to Jeter's OPS has been in the top half of the lineup? Once. Jeter - 108 times). Getting the most out of his team would mean not going with a 2b/SS combo of Jeter/Brian Roberts about 85 times - surely the worst range of any defensive middle infield of my lifetime. It's hard to be surprised you're having issues with run prevention if you pencil that combo in day after day. Getting the most out of the team would involve optimizing the offense and defense from the players on hand and/or leaning on your GM to acquire/promote pieces more useful to an overall offensive and defensive scheme - instead of the veteran plug and play that they've gone with instead.
Meanwhile, the Baltimore Orioles - despite a payroll of about half of that of the Yankees - had their All Star Gold Glove catcher go down for the season early in the year, had their All Star calibre Gold Glove 3rd baseman miss the first month - then go down for the year in August, ,had their highest paid and expected to be near the top of the rotation starter implode and then get hurt, and had their opening day closer implode and then go on the DL.
4 huge pieces from a team already competing at a major resource disadvantage. They replaced those pieces with a 3rd string C from the San Diego Padres making 4 million, a revolving door of internal options at 3b involving shuttling guys from the minors or shifting internal players to a position they rarely play, a rookie starting pitcher (though a touted prospect), and a converted starter turned reliever with a career ERA just under 5.00 who had never closed games at any professional level.
That's getting the most out of a team despite injury and ineffectiveness. Girardi by comparison is on auto-pilot. In fact, he's only 5 games up on Joe Maddon and he's got 3 times the payroll Maddon has and Maddon likewise has had multiple critical pieces hurt, be surprisingly ineffective, or traded suddenly in blatant cost cutting measures. I'm not drinking the Girardi Kool-Aid.
Girardi got the most out of his team if by that we mean he used the very high priced veterans acquired by Cashman in only the exact roles one would expect - plugging them into the lineup and the field in the same roles they've had throughout their careers regardless of present performance. Despite no demonstrable creativity, leadership, or outside the box thinking - has been able to stay afloat thanks to the sheer overwhelming glut of highly paid veteran talent at his disposal.
When holes sprung up in his lineup his GM provided him with 12 million dollar utility player Martin Prado, 10.5 million dollar 3rd baseman Chase Headley, 10 million dollar shortstop Stephen Drew, and 10 million dollar starting pitcher Brandon McCarthy. Those 4 stopgap solutions alone are about 45 million worth of payroll and exceed the season opening payroll of the Houston Astros.
Getting the most out of this team would mean moving defensive apocalypse Derek Jeter off of Shortstop and finding a way to manage the public relations fallout from such a move. Getting the most out of his team would involve moving the worst regular hitter in his lineup - Derek Jeter again - out of the 2 hole and down in the order. (Guess how often Jonathan Schoop and his similar to Jeter's OPS has been in the top half of the lineup? Once. Jeter - 108 times). Getting the most out of his team would mean not going with a 2b/SS combo of Jeter/Brian Roberts about 85 times - surely the worst range of any defensive middle infield of my lifetime. It's hard to be surprised you're having issues with run prevention if you pencil that combo in day after day. Getting the most out of the team would involve optimizing the offense and defense from the players on hand and/or leaning on your GM to acquire/promote pieces more useful to an overall offensive and defensive scheme - instead of the veteran plug and play that they've gone with instead.
Meanwhile, the Baltimore Orioles - despite a payroll of about half of that of the Yankees - had their All Star Gold Glove catcher go down for the season early in the year, had their All Star calibre Gold Glove 3rd baseman miss the first month - then go down for the year in August, ,had their highest paid and expected to be near the top of the rotation starter implode and then get hurt, and had their opening day closer implode and then go on the DL.
4 huge pieces from a team already competing at a major resource disadvantage. They replaced those pieces with a 3rd string C from the San Diego Padres making 4 million, a revolving door of internal options at 3b involving shuttling guys from the minors or shifting internal players to a position they rarely play, a rookie starting pitcher (though a touted prospect), and a converted starter turned reliever with a career ERA just under 5.00 who had never closed games at any professional level.
That's getting the most out of a team despite injury and ineffectiveness. Girardi by comparison is on auto-pilot. In fact, he's only 5 games up on Joe Maddon and he's got 3 times the payroll Maddon has and Maddon likewise has had multiple critical pieces hurt, be surprisingly ineffective, or traded suddenly in blatant cost cutting measures. I'm not drinking the Girardi Kool-Aid.