yes, another Romo thread

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CowboysFaninDC;3129549 said:
After listening to his sunday conversation with Irvin, I know Romo is not a leader. His statement regarding what it takes to win says it all. to take a back handed stab at TO and the problems from the past is really stupid. that's falling into the trap. that's falling into what the media wants you to say or do. do you think Aikman or Manning would have answered that way? Aikman would have answered something like, going to practice, focusing and raising the sense of urgency with everyone on the team instead of "no finger pointing", everyone doing their thing and worrying about themselves...etc.

I know this is neat picking, but focus is not to get even now that you have the opportunity to get back at a certain inndividua. its not that complicated. focus. raise the sense of urgency. understand every play and every game is important. execute the game plan. its not that hard.

sorry, this highschoolish, hollywood TMZ type of drama doesn't get you to win anything.

that's why we need a coach with a strong personality. some one like parcells. doesn't ahve to do anything with X's and O's but in the absence of leadership in the players, we need a leader at the head coaching level. Switzer was a bafoon, but we had Irvin, Aikman, Haley and Smith. this team has no true leaders, specially at the all important QB position. no team with out a true leader at the QB has won a superbowl in the past 20 years. a strong coach, would kick Romo's freaking arse into being the leader that he needs to be and get away from the drama.

this may sound like a rant


... because it is a rant. Now go flog yourself a la "The Da Vinci code".
 

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InmanRoshi;3129672 said:
A loss like the Giants makes me so thankful that TO is gone. This season's team has a chance to regroup and bounce back after a loss like that. TO would have gone bat-guano crazy, gone scorched earth policy and sabotaged the entire team in some insane, self deluded conspiracy theory this week... if he hadn't swallowed a bottle of painpills already.

I didn't like TO neither. All I said is that Romo doesn't have the leadership skills of some of these other players I mentioned. he is skillfull. he helps us win games. without him we would be 5-8. or maybe 4-8.

but regardless of all of that, regardless of being 8-4. this team lacks leadership. there is no one on this team, that can stand up, or through his play or past performance or anything that would raise the whole team. coaches on down. we keep giving excuses, explanations, reasons, blah blah blah....all true leaders care about is losing and winning and nothing else in between matters. we do not have that type of personalities on our team.
 

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CowboysFaninDC;3129677 said:
when did I say he was the problem? I just said he doesn't have the leadership skills. those two are not the same problem. I also never said he doesn't have skills, or he is bad, etc. .....quit putting words in my mouth.....

In your opinion he has no leadership skills I disagree with you.
 

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CowboysFaninDC;3129549 said:
After listening to his sunday conversation with Irvin, I know Romo is not a leader. His statement regarding what it takes to win says it all. to take a back handed stab at TO and the problems from the past is really stupid. that's falling into the trap. that's falling into what the media wants you to say or do. do you think Aikman or Manning would have answered that way? Aikman would have answered something like, going to practice, focusing and raising the sense of urgency with everyone on the team instead of "no finger pointing", everyone doing their thing and worrying about themselves...etc.

I know this is neat picking, but focus is not to get even now that you have the opportunity to get back at a certain inndividua. its not that complicated. focus. raise the sense of urgency. understand every play and every game is important. execute the game plan. its not that hard.

sorry, this highschoolish, hollywood TMZ type of drama doesn't get you to win anything.

that's why we need a coach with a strong personality. some one like parcells. doesn't ahve to do anything with X's and O's but in the absence of leadership in the players, we need a leader at the head coaching level. Switzer was a bafoon, but we had Irvin, Aikman, Haley and Smith. this team has no true leaders, specially at the all important QB position. no team with out a true leader at the QB has won a superbowl in the past 20 years. a strong coach, would kick Romo's freaking arse into being the leader that he needs to be and get away from the drama.

this may sound like a rant
The bolded part applies to your post moreso than Romo's answer. You sound like someone who is so loyal to Owens that you have to pick on every little detail said about one of the men that Owens pointed his finger at. That may or may not be true, but that's what your post sounds like. Now if you want to talk about Wade not providing any leadership, that's different.
 

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Doomsday101;3129697 said:
In your opinion he has no leadership skills I disagree with you.

thank you doomsday. you are entitled to your opinion as I am. everybody else is reading other stuff into it and translating it into something I didn't say.
 

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CowboysFaninDC;3129705 said:
thank you doomsday. you are entitled to your opinion as I am. everybody else is reading other stuff into it and translating it into something I didn't say.

No problem, I don't expect we will always agree.
 

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CowboysFaninDC;3129695 said:
I didn't like TO neither. All I said is that Romo doesn't have the leadership skills of some of these other players I mentioned. he is skillfull. he helps us win games. without him we would be 5-8. or maybe 4-8.

but regardless of all of that, regardless of being 8-4. this team lacks leadership. there is no one on this team, that can stand up, or through his play or past performance or anything that would raise the whole team. coaches on down. we keep giving excuses, explanations, reasons, blah blah blah....all true leaders care about is losing and winning and nothing else in between matters. we do not have that type of personalities on our team.

If you're going to pin someone's entire ability to "lead" on one incident, Troy Aikman wasn't much of a leader after he let Deion Sanders split the lockerroom in 1998.

People who lack leadership don't rally their units at such ridiculous rates down the field in the late 4th quarter in the clutch as Romo has and put up 110 career QB ratings in 'late and close' splits.
 

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CowboysFaninDC;3129705 said:
thank you doomsday. you are entitled to your opinion as I am. everybody else is reading other stuff into it and translating it into something I didn't say.
You are the one who felt compelled to; in your own words "yes, another Romo thread" call out Romo. The way I read into it is that you ARE "neat" picking and like many fans don't realize how fortunate they are that Tony Romo is the QB of the Dallas Cowboys instead of Rex Grossman etc..
I just don't get it. Of all the possible problems I would say Tony's interview response was pretty damn low on the list.
Personally I think his answers were great.
 

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CowboysFaninDC;3129677 said:
when did I say he was the problem? I just said he doesn't have the leadership skills. those two are not the same problem. I also never said he doesn't have skills, or he is bad, etc. .....quit putting words in my mouth.....
Saying he's a bad leader means he's a bad influence, thus he is the problem IMO.

Just because he isn't the most vocal guy, doesn't mean he's not a leader. He busts his hump every. single. game. Players should be able to feed off of that.
 

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DallasEast;3129615 said:
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This belongs on the its Jerry's Fault thread.
 

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Perhaps Romo just doesn't handle interviews very well. Anyone consider that?
 

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CowboysFaninDC;3129683 said:
yes. agreed. with kitna, we would have been at best 5-8. but Romo doesn't have the leadership skills that everyone is trying to sell so hard. you don't have to sell a leader. you don't have to explain it. they just have it. he doesn't and a lot of that is because of his actions.

all I said, is without true leadership on this team, we are never going to make it, or win the big one and this team will take a whole lot of pride if they make it to the playoffs and win a game. that would be their superbowl. they will thumb their noses at us and say, see we can win a playoff game...missing the forest because of the trees......

I bet you wade will stand on the podium and tell us that he won a playoff game, when everyone said we couldn't.

Romo will say they won a big one, when everyone said we couldn't....wait he already did that.


they will consider winning a game in the playoff their ultimate goal.....that's sad.

In my opinion, Romo's a really, really good leader. You just have to listen to what he actually says. He keeps his eye on the ball, speaks eloquently for the team, and demonstrates on the field every Sunday that he can get his team in position to win just about every game. He's also worked hard to eliminate the biggest problems with his game.

Personally, I think any fan who doesn't see, understand, and acknowledge Romo's effort and ability is completely out of his or her gourd. There may be issues with his abilities, if you're comparing him to the very best players at his position for his generation, but that's another story.
 

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This is why I'd never talk to the media, just like Barber.

There's literally no way to answer these questions that will make people happy.
 

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I saw the title and I opened the thread anyway. Worse yet I started to read it.

I would have rather been Ric rolled.
 

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CowboysFaninDC;3129671 said:
Why that reaction? I never said romo was bad, or not talented, or not skilled, or doesn't work hard. its a fact, without anyone being able to deny it, that without leaders on a team, you are not going to win in this league. right now we have no leaders, coaching on down. we will never win with this current staff or group of players. its just not going to happen. we are talented. we are hard working. we are going to win a few games. but when its all on the line, when everyone is really good, when its a test of wills, we just don't have the make up to pull through. end of story.

If I am wrong, I will print this page in color and eat it. :cool:

Then why the hell are you picking Romo out of 53 players and the coaching staff to blame??? You even titled the thread "yes, another Romo thread".

Maybe Romo is not the vocal leader that Peyton Manning is, but there are 52 other guys and an entire coaching staff that you are giving a pass to. How come nobody on defense is being a leader, ala Ray Lewis in Baltimore? What about the freaking Head Coach being a leader like Mike Singletary?

The point is that Romo is the single best player on this team and we would win maybe 4 games a year without him. HE IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!!!!!

So if you want to point fingers and ask where the leadership is, then look at this defense which is loaded with first rounders, but totally blows. Look at the coaching staff that every freaking week is outcoached by the oppossing team.

But no, you give all of them a pass and single out the best player on the team. Is it Romo's fault that most of his surrounding talent blows??? I actually feel sorry for Romo having to play with all of these scrubs.
 

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Tony's definitely not the "RAH RAH" type of leader (like Brooking). But that's ok IMO. Tony seems like the kind of leader that prefers to show his leadership on the field and in practice in how he plays; if it works for him, then stick w/ it and don't try to be who you're not.
 

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CowboysFaninDC;3129549 said:
After listening to his sunday conversation with Irvin, I know Romo is not a leader. His statement regarding what it takes to win says it all. to take a back handed stab at TO and the problems from the past is really stupid. that's falling into the trap. that's falling into what the media wants you to say or do. do you think Aikman or Manning would have answered that way? Aikman would have answered something like, going to practice, focusing and raising the sense of urgency with everyone on the team instead of "no finger pointing", everyone doing their thing and worrying about themselves...etc.

I know this is neat picking, but focus is not to get even now that you have the opportunity to get back at a certain inndividua. its not that complicated. focus. raise the sense of urgency. understand every play and every game is important. execute the game plan. its not that hard.

sorry, this highschoolish, hollywood TMZ type of drama doesn't get you to win anything.

that's why we need a coach with a strong personality. some one like parcells. doesn't ahve to do anything with X's and O's but in the absence of leadership in the players, we need a leader at the head coaching level. Switzer was a bafoon, but we had Irvin, Aikman, Haley and Smith. this team has no true leaders, specially at the all important QB position. no team with out a true leader at the QB has won a superbowl in the past 20 years. a strong coach, would kick Romo's freaking arse into being the leader that he needs to be and get away from the drama.

this may sound like a rant


thats where i stopped reading....
 

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Hostile;3129795 said:
I saw the title and I opened the thread anyway. Worse yet I started to read it.

I would have rather been Ric rolled.
Don't insult whatshisname that way

Getting Ric Rolled is annoying, but it always makes me smile :laugh2:

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