You don't need elite QB play to win playoff games

[CowboyStar88]

lol The only people you’re trying to convince is yourself and the dakistans.

He doesn’t have the toughness or ability to win like the QB’s who won today. He’s a fraud.

 

[Hoofbite]

Those guys wouldn’t have been playing today if they didn’t perform well above todays games for the season.

In isolation you don’t particularly need any one aspect of a team as teams have won games in all ways imaginable.

To get to the playoffs you generally need good QB play all year. 4 of the top QBs are still in the mix. That’s all you need to know.

 

[MyFairLady]

Don't need big time qb to win. Lists 4 best QBs in football. Good grief.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Some QB stats from the divisional round. All these elite qbs and none of them put up huge numbers. You need to have a complete offense and not turn the ball over. People overrate how good you have to play to win a playoff game.

	C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	QBR	RTG
Mahomes	16/25	177	7.1	1	0	66.3	98.2
Hurts	15/20	128	6.4	0	0	49.4	91.2
Lamar	18/25	254	10.2	2	1
Allen	16/22	127	5.8	0	0

Then again, you cant afford the 'complete offense' when you're paying that lesser QB 15%+ of the CAP, and he doesnt provide anything above and beyond 'bus driver' level production.
A better way of evaluating the QB / cost/ value element is how the QB's performance correlates with his CAP HIT.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

In the playoffs, I think clutch is more important than elite. You can argue that Herbert is the most talented QB in the playoffs, but he's the least clutch. Mahomes had a bad year, but he's still the most poised to win it all. I also feel bad for Lamar, because that final drive was pure clutch, but the TE ruined it.

 

[Blue64]

Some QB stats from the divisional round. All these elite qbs and none of them put up huge numbers. You need to have a complete offense and not turn the ball over. People overrate how good you have to play to win a playoff game.

	C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	QBR	RTG
Mahomes	16/25	177	7.1	1	0	66.3	98.2
Hurts	15/20	128	6.4	0	0	49.4	91.2
Lamar	18/25	254	10.2	2	1
Allen	16/22	127	5.8	0	0

Agreed.

But having a deer caught in the headlights look…
Is not going to win you a lot of games, regardless of who your supporting cast is

 

[sdfidaho]

But it sure does help….

 

[Whirlwin]

Some QB stats from the divisional round. All these elite qbs and none of them put up huge numbers. You need to have a complete offense and not turn the ball over. People overrate how good you have to play to win a playoff game.

	C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	QBR	RTG
Mahomes	16/25	177	7.1	1	0	66.3	98.2
Hurts	15/20	128	6.4	0	0	49.4	91.2
Lamar	18/25	254	10.2	2	1
Allen	16/22	127	5.8	0	0

Trent Dilfer.
You make mistakes in the playoffs you lose.

 

[Whirlwin]

Weather may have been a factor here too, but it's all about balance.

Yes, but it’s mostly about discipline mistakes beating yourself

 

[Brax]

Some QB stats from the divisional round. All these elite qbs and none of them put up huge numbers. You need to have a complete offense and not turn the ball over. People overrate how good you have to play to win a playoff game.

	C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	QBR	RTG
Mahomes	16/25	177	7.1	1	0	66.3	98.2
Hurts	15/20	128	6.4	0	0	49.4	91.2
Lamar	18/25	254	10.2	2	1
Allen	16/22	127	5.8	0	0

Like many here have tried to tell you stats don’t matter, the elite ones in today’s NFL do it all well.

 

[Swagger]

I think the opening post is trying to hide the fact that either Hurts will have played in 2 Superbowls or 1 Superbowl and Daniels 1 Superbowl having been in the league for 5 minutes whilst Dak, who had a far better team supporting him than Daniels in 2022 and 2023...has yet to even reach an NFC Championship game.

Washington D gave up 31 points to the Lions but hey ho Daniels was able to execute and help the team put on well over 40 points.

Whichever way you try and spin it Dak is a joke and clown show.

 

[BoyzBlaster]

In the playoffs, I think clutch is more important than elite. You can argue that Herbert is the most talented QB in the playoffs, but he's the least clutch. Mahomes had a bad year, but he's still the most poised to win it all. I also feel bad for Lamar, because that final drive was pure clutch, but the TE ruined it.

Great post

 

[visionary]

Some QB stats from the divisional round. All these elite qbs and none of them put up huge numbers. You need to have a complete offense and not turn the ball over. People overrate how good you have to play to win a playoff game.

	C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	QBR	RTG
Mahomes	16/25	177	7.1	1	0	66.3	98.2
Hurts	15/20	128	6.4	0	0	49.4	91.2
Lamar	18/25	254	10.2	2	1
Allen	16/22	127	5.8	0	0

You absolutely need top tier great QBs to compete in post season consistently

We have an overpaid uncle tom
We have no chance

 

[StarOfGlory]

But you do need a QB who does not look like a deer in the headlights in the playoffs.

Dak freezes up in the biggest of moments ....... none of these guys did.

I cannot imagine how bad dak would have played in philly today.

You don’t think Dak would have had a 44-yard td run?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

OP leaving out Hurts and Allens rushing numbers on purpose.

Allen had 20 yards and 2 rushing TDS.

Hurts had 70 yards and 1 rushing TD.

Don't let OP fool ya'll. QB play matters, especially when the weather is brutal.

I am not sure if those really matter in big scheme of things.

the defenses specially the DLs made huge difference for the winning teams.turnovers are key in a lot of these games

commanders had 4 Ints, mostly because of pressure they brough with their DL
Lamar had an interception vs. Allan who had none.
Rams had untimely fumbles that set up scores
Chiefs defense has been stout all year, as chiefs never scored more than 30 (only two games) in any game and they are 16-2.

in the playoffs, its about defense. whose defense can hold up.

 

[starfan1]

All 4 qbs today are better than Dak.

All 4 TEAMS are better than the cowboys. All for GMs are better than Jerry

And this year all 4 QBs were better than Dak

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

In today's era, you have to factor in rushing stats too. All 4 QBs are complete weapons that force defenses to account for them through the pass and on the ground.

but Lamar is the best in scrambling, yet his team lost.
Stroud Rushed for 42, but his team lost

IMHO, the difference was defenses. whose DL played better.

 

[Blue&Silver]

Trent Dilfer.
You make mistakes in the playoffs you lose.

Mark Rypien who played for the Washington Commanders. (No he did not play for the Washington commanders, and I did not type that) ridiculous. And Doug Williams as well. How about Troy Aikman? He was clutch when the pressure was on, but not a great QB for filling the stat sheets.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Then again, you cant afford the 'complete offense' when you're paying that lesser QB 15%+ of the CAP, and he doesnt provide anything above and beyond 'bus driver' level production.
A better way of evaluating the QB / cost/ value element is how the QB's performance correlates with his CAP HIT.

the cap is not the issue. Hurts makes 7M less. you want to tell me 7M is the difference between cowboys making NFCG and not?
Goff makes 5M less. they went 15-2. so the difference between 7-10 and 15-2 is 5M?

Philly's top 6 contracts are 193M.
Dallas top 6 contracts are 163M...

how did they do it? how did we become totally paralyzed as an organization because of a single contract?

you are allowing your bias against Dak to repeat what Stephen and Jerry want you to think. they want to blame the contracts for their ineptitude.
and this is not endorsing or saying the Dak deserved the contract. just that the contract is not the issue. we are no different than any of these other successful teams in cap issues. they just have better GMs. better coaches. better culture. better focus.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Some QB stats from the divisional round. All these elite qbs and none of them put up huge numbers. You need to have a complete offense and not turn the ball over. People overrate how good you have to play to win a playoff game.

	C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	QBR	RTG
Mahomes	16/25	177	7.1	1	0	66.3	98.2
Hurts	15/20	128	6.4	0	0	49.4	91.2
Lamar	18/25	254	10.2	2	1
Allen	16/22	127	5.8	0	0

Well, turnovers is always a big deal not just in the playoffs. And weather is a factor here too if you want to put up QB numbers. These cold January games played outdoors aren't conducive to passing attacks and that's been true for the entirety of NFL history. Obviously, in cold games, defense tends to rule.