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X-Dawg said:
Where did I lie about RW???

You said he has never taken over a game, and yet won the 2002 Washington game, the 2003 Panthers game, and last year's Eagle game by himself and sealed the 2004 Washington game

Lies
 

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I agree with pretty much everything you said. Parcells hasnt done a "Hall of Fame" job with the Cowboys and Jerry hasn't done much right since ohhh 1993....sad fact but true.
 

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Nice post
gbrittain said:
In order:

1. Parcells has not lived up to the billing yet, but Parcells presence has been reflected in the win column. 10-6, 6-10, and 9-7 is better than 5-10, 5-10,
and 5-10.

-Playoffs-

2. First of all who did Dallas pass on that has made you regret drafting Julius? What have Steven Jackson, Chris Perry, Kevin Jones, and Tatum Bell accomplished that is so great? Has anyone of those RBs done anything so great that a single one of them would be better than JJ and Marcus Spears?
- Steven Jackson-
3. A little too early for that I would say. No matter how bad the TO situation gets I seriously doubt it will ever live up to the J Jones and J Johnson split up for bad moves the franchise has made.

-He's been a disaster so far - undeniable

4. What do you mean a waste and why? He is not a great player, but he is more than steady. A waste would have been to let him go and get nothing in return for him.

5. He may in some peoples eyes not have lived up to expectations but he is a very good player no matter which way you slice it.
- thank you - you're right he is NOT a GREAT player - he is good at hitting-

6. I would have agreed with that statement up until JJ went out hired BP. What else can he do? He pays for FAs and he hired a top notch coach. That is his job and he is doing so.
-Nobody wanted the job - and Bill cashed in

7. Shooo...maybe we should let the season play out before you make such a statement. If he misses a bunch of game on the line field goals then I will agree, but until then I think I might watch to see what happens first.
- Parcells is already agitated with him and he's not a great teammate

8. Again, jumping the gun a little bit perhaps.

9. I never did like the Rivera signing. However, considering that Dallas is in great shape cap wise I will say big deal. Plus, who knows maybe he will perform better this year.
- Brutal Move-
10. There is a pattern developing here. Maybe you should let the guys actually play in a real NFL game before you make that determination.

11. Not the biggest Bledsoe fan in the world, but the Bledsoe "headache" as you say is better than the insert scrub name QB "lobotomy".

So basically in my opinion FWIW, you have a couple of half legitimate concerns followed by a treasure trove of manure.
 

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You know we really have to give X-Dawg credit. He knows how to put up a thread that can get more replies faster than anyone else in here.
 

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Byrdman1531 said:
Where did I lie about RW???

You said Roy hasnt taken over a game.

See:
Last year in Philly when he "singlehandedly won the game"
Last year against the Giants when he forced the fumble on Brandon Jacobs and recovered it on the 1 late in the game.
Two years ago when he made the game saving tackle against the Skins as time expired
:laugh1: :laugh1: you mean when McNabb gift wrapped him an inexplicable INT!!!
NO he has not taken over games on a consistent basis like at Ok - and if anyting he's gone missing....IE BEING DRAGGED BY SHOCKEY! :banghead:
IE BEING BURNED DEEP BY SHOCKEY!
 

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He's been a disaster so far - undeniable

I really do not understand how TO has been a disaster so far.

If the media wasnt so high up in his jock then he would be Steve Smith. Has a sore hamstring and took 2 weeks off to let it heal and hopefully will be back soon.

Now if hes out this whole week and into next week then is starts to concern you but in no way is a disaster.

What has TO done so far that makes him such a disaster? All of the players on the Cowboys have said hes a good guy and unless I'm missing something he hasn't gotten in any fights with anyone.
 

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stiletto said:
I agree with pretty much everything you said. Parcells hasnt done a "Hall of Fame" job with the Cowboys and Jerry hasn't done much right since ohhh 1993....sad fact but true.
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
 

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I'll just start with this one...

X-Dawg said:
- Drafting Roy Williams - a guy we all wish was better than he is - who has yet to take games over like he did at the "O" - a guy who is basically a ONE dimensional Football player - was a terrible move and was taken way too high.

I don't care what writers like Prisco you listen to, but I think the real people we need to listen to are professional scouts.

Roy
Grade: 90 | Key
Alert: None

Comment:
Reads plays quickly, is aggressive and flashes the ability to disrupt running plays in the backfield. Uses hands fairly well, protects legs from cut blocks and flashes the ability to shed blocks quickly. Plays with discipline, rarely takes false steps and is efficient. Explodes into hits, plays with a mean streak and can force fumbles. Possesses good athletic ability, has adequate top-end speed and is capable of matching up with most tight ends. Is instinctive and shows good range in zone coverage. Times hits well, is physical and looks to punish receivers coming over the middle. Reads opposing quarterbacks' eyes, has good ball skills and is a playmaker. Is tall, fights for the ball while it's in the air and can compete for jump balls in the red zone as well as downfield. Has yet to miss a game and is durable. However, Williams doesn't have elite speed. Takes too long to open hips when forced to turn and run downfield and while rarely gets caught out of position lacks the second gear to recover once the receiver gets past him.


GRADING SCALE
100-90 Elite Player
89-80 Outstanding Player
79-75 Solid Starter
74-70 Good Starter
69-65 Adequate Starter
64-60 Good Backup
59-55 Adequate Backup
54-50 Marginal Backup
49-45 Poor Player
30 Developmental Player


The only other saftey to be graded an Elite player was Ed Reed.

Funny how the guys that are paid to grade these players disagree with you.
 

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X-Dawg said:
- Jerry Jones since his last SB win is one of Pro Sports worst owners...his teams have stunk - the playoffs have evaporated and he had to pay thru the nose to get a REAL coach like BP in here....b/c he scared people off with Gailey & Campo - nobody wanted he job.

Can you back up the statement I put in bold letters? I am very curious if you actually base that on something factual or if it just serves to prop up your claim?
 

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Don't be dissing rednecks, they are probably 50% of cowboy fans, and there is nothing wrong with rednecks
 

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Hey xdog, what did those bums named Landry and Schramm do their last 5 years? 6 games under .500 and just as bad a draft record as Jerry ever had. Just because things haven't gone our(i say our for the real Cowboys fans) way for quite a few years, doesn't mean Jerry and Bill aren't trying. Ya know, sometimes even when you care, and try your best, things don't go your way.


OBTW Yankees fans bag on ARod, doesn't make him bad. Bagging on Roy really takes the preception of your football I.Q. down a long ways. FYI
 

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cowboyeric8 said:
Don't be dissing rednecks, they are probably 50% of cowboy fans, and there is nothing wrong with rednecks
I like "most " rednecks
 

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gbrittain said:
Can you back up the statement I put in bold letters? I am very curious if you actually base that on something factual or if it just serves to prop up your claim?
JJ basically had another subpar cast to choose from so he tracked down BP and paid the man the highest salary ever....Nobody BIG wanted this job - can ya blame em'? You got Dave Campo in a wet suit - swimming with Dolphins while HBO films Jerry Jones cutting every player he can ....
Sheer Lunacy ...
 

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By far not the biggest contract ever given a coach man get your facts strait.

I think the biggest contract given to a coach at that time was to Rick Neuhisel by Washington State. But i wont state that as fact because im not sure. i just know it wasn't given to Parcells
 
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