Your Ideal Second Round

[dewby]

We trade both our fourth rounders for another pick in the second (not sure where that would get us), snag Nate Allen before the 49ers at 49 and take Charles Brown with our 59th assuming Arizona passes on him.

The rest of the draft can just go to hell if it turns out like that.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'd be thrilled with Nate Allen and Charles Brown or Allen and Vlad or some combination of that. That would make it a great draft for us.

 

[SDogo]

Give me Nate Allen, Morgan Burnett or Rodger Saffold


I might be the only person other then hos that still endorses Dexter McCluster

 

[dewby]

I'd be thrilled with Nate Allen and Charles Brown or Allen and Vlad or some combination of that. That would make it a great draft for us.

I think that's what we're gunning for, I hope we get it done.

 

[NinePointOh]

Trading away both of our 4th rounders would barely get us to the top of the 4th -- it most certainly wouldn't get us another 2nd rounder unless we give up a player as well.

 

[Cowboy Brian]

2nd Allen and in the early 3rd Javier Arenas and then next years 3rd and 5th to come up and grab Donald Butler.

 

[Teague31]

i doubt allen makes it past the iggles.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Taylor Mays.

 

[SDogo]

Trading away both of our 4th rounders would barely get us to the top of the 4th -- it most certainly wouldn't get us a 2nd rounder.

not true at all

 

[tar_heel16]

If we can maneuver the draft to someone close the day with both Nate Allen and an O-Lineman, I'll be happy. How we do it does not matter, as long as he don't deal next year's first rounder.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Nate Allen or maybe even Bruce Campbell. He has the physical tools to be great. Someone call him stupid because he scored so low on the Wonderlic test, but Pouncey and Iupati scored below him.

Smarts is a good thing, but good recognition is even better.

 

[canters]

I read a thread somewhere today about C. Brown having a bad back,,,and Kingle having a bad knee.

If the Eagles take Mays. I think we have a shot at Allen. They will likely take a OL with their second pick in the 2nd rd.,both of which are ahead of our pick.

 

[dewby]

Trading away both of our 4th rounders would barely get us to the top of the 4th -- it most certainly wouldn't get us another 2nd rounder unless we give up a player as well.

Yeah, I'm not good with values of picks. Kind of figured it might be that way. Well in that case goodbye Hurd, Crayton, Spears or Bennett.

 

[dewby]

Or I guess not, doesn't seem right that two fourth rounders would only get us to the top of the 4th... if anything high in the third.

 

[dewby]

Taylor Mays.

Why?

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[Cowboy Brian]

i doubt allen makes it past the iggles.

We can pray for Taylor Mays to be an eagle.

 

[zrinkill]

Nate Allen, Taylor Mays, Morgan Burnett.


These guys later in the draft. .......Ed Wang, Mike Neal, Brandon carter, Trindon Holliday.

 

[tar_heel16]

Or I guess not, doesn't seem right that two fourth rounders would only get us to the top of the 4th... if anything high in the third.

According to the trade value chart, it gets us near the top of the 4th round.

 

[dewby]

Link to this chart please.

 

[NinePointOh]

not true at all

It absolutely is.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182278

Look at every trade since 1993 that's been made for pick 65 (which would be the last pick in the 2nd round this year). How many of them come anywhere close to 119 and 125? Teams have typically had to package a mid-to high third along with their fourth just to move to the very bottom of the second round.

As for the "hypothetical values" chart, plug in 119 and 125 to this calculator. You get a value of 103 points, roughly equivalent to a high 4th rounder.