Your perception of the odds that Dak wins a Super Bowl

tyke1doe · Apr 26, 2023

CowboyFrog said:
Not that i wont in this back and forth but the list you posted doesnt really accomplish what your wanting.. Dez is still waiting on a team to call him, Witten retired and I dont think you could find anyone who thought he had alot of anything left in the tank....Were is cole now? and Coopers best years are with Dak...again not in the Tony/Dak argument just pointing out i dont think that list says what your wanting it to say.

Are you saying that Dak made Dez, Witten and Cooper better?

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 26, 2023

khiladi said:
And still got the Cowboys to within 3 with a whole quarter to play, unlike the "great" Dak who gets them down to 3 with about 2 seconds to play...

Rush was more than entitled to 1 bad game, especially considering he was basically a practice QB in his 5th career start and still winning with this Cowboys squad, while Dak set the world on fire in year 3 with Quincy Carter records of futility while taking a week to throw a TD in training camp.. But yeah, let's gloss over that... OK buddy...

Haha@Quincy Carter…this is my issue with you anti-Dak people you guys just have to speak in exaggerations and hyperbole. You guys refuse to be honest.

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 26, 2023

tyke1doe said:
Are you saying that Dak made Dez, Witten and Cooper better?

He for sure made Coop, Cobb, Gallup and Schultz better. Especially Schultz…..Blake Jarwin too.

CowboyFrog · Apr 26, 2023

tyke1doe said:
Are you saying that Dak made Dez, Witten and Cooper better?

Are you saying thats the reason they left?

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 26, 2023

SteveTheCowboy said:
I did. You see i can admit what i did...."lol".

It was an excercise to show we can find anything to prove our stance.
"Agenda" is not always used as an insult. Business meetings have an agenda and minutes.

I have to wonder about you kid....baffling i tell ya

You shouldn’t wonder about me I’m doing fine. I stopped wondering about y’all a long time ago. I let y’all hate Dak if it makes you guys feel better.

JoeKing · Apr 26, 2023

0% chance Dak ever strings enough wins in a row in the playoffs to even qualify for a Super Bowl, let alone win one. That's just the hard truth.

JoeKing · Apr 26, 2023

TheMarathonContinues said:
You shouldn’t wonder about me I’m doing fine. I stopped wondering about y’all a long time ago. I let y’all hate Dak if it makes you guys feel better.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 26, 2023

CowboyFrog said:
Not that i wont in this back and forth but the list you posted doesnt really accomplish what your wanting.. Dez is still waiting on a team to call him, Witten retired and I dont think you could find anyone who thought he had alot of anything left in the tank....Were is cole now? and Coopers best years are with Dak...again not in the Tony/Dak argument just pointing out i dont think that list says what your wanting it to say.

I know exactly what i wanted my message to say. Dak never made THEM better....or good enough to keep. As marathon claims in his hatcher quote.
Other teams not making them better isnt my message.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 26, 2023

TheMarathonContinues said:
You shouldn’t wonder about me I’m doing fine. I stopped wondering about y’all a long time ago. I let y’all hate Dak if it makes you guys feel better.

I dont hate him. I do dispise when people make stuff up or chase strawman arguments.

RD21 · Apr 26, 2023

TheMarathonContinues said:
I’ll take a NFC championship appearance…..

Same here..!

tyke1doe · Apr 26, 2023

CowboyFrog said:
Are you saying thats the reason they left?

A non-sequitur. Try answering my question.
I have no hidden agenda.

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 26, 2023

JoeKing said:

Resident dope fiend lol…..

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 26, 2023

SteveTheCowboy said:
I dont hate him. I do dispise when people make stuff up or chase strawman arguments.

I didn’t make up those quotes from Hatcher. Those were his words.

tyke1doe · Apr 26, 2023

TheMarathonContinues said:
He for sure made Coop, Cobb, Gallup and Schultz better. Especially Schultz…..Blake Jarwin too.

I wouldn't say he made Cooper and Cobb better. Cobb had some of his best years with Aaron Rodgers. Cooper was a 1,000-yard receiver before becoming a Cowboy. Gallup, Schultz and Jarwin are washes because we really don't have a scenario for comparison with them. I think we will find out more about Schultz now that he's fled to Houston (if memory serves me correctly).

Be that as it may, I think it's a stretch to imply he made Dez, Witten and Coop better. Besides, who's to say they didn't make Dak better? Nevertheless, Frog's statement made me take note.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 26, 2023

TheMarathonContinues said:
I didn’t make up those quotes from Hatcher. Those were his words.

I know, it's okay. Let's get back on topic, eh?

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 26, 2023

tyke1doe said:
I wouldn't say he made Cooper and Cobb better. Cobb had some of his best years with Aaron Rodgers. Cooper was a 1,000-yard receiver before becoming a Cowboy. Gallup, Schultz and Jarwin are washes because we really don't have a scenario for comparison with them. I think we will find out more about Schultz now that he's fled to Houston (if memory serves me correctly).

Be that as it may, I think it's a stretch to imply he made Dez, Witten and Coop better. Besides, who's to say they didn't make Dak better? Nevertheless, Frog's statement made me take note.

I mean the whole “makes player better” is always tricky because how can you say you made someone better other than using stats to back the claim up?

I would not say he made Witten and Dez better because they would be good with or without Dak but they certainly didn’t make Dak better
By the time Dak got here Witten and Dez were finished. Both had one foot out the door. Dez’s route tree was limited and failed him and Witten was older and almost retired.

And you are right that Coop and Cobb both has good years in their resume
But before they got here Coop and Cobb sucked. That’s why their teams got rid of them. Coop had 680 yards prior to coming here the year before. Cobb had 380 receiver yards. People thought these guys were cooked.

TheMarathonContinues · Apr 26, 2023

SteveTheCowboy said:
I know, it's okay. Let's get back on topic, eh?

Im on topic. I’m engaging with others.

Surfguy · Apr 26, 2023

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SteveTheCowboy · Apr 26, 2023

tyke1doe said:
I wouldn't say he made Cooper and Cobb better. Cobb had some of his best years with Aaron Rodgers. Cooper was a 1,000-yard receiver before becoming a Cowboy. Gallup, Schultz and Jarwin are washes because we really don't have a scenario for comparison with them. I think we will find out more about Schultz now that he's fled to Houston (if memory serves me correctly).

Be that as it may, I think it's a stretch to imply he made Dez, Witten and Coop better. Besides, who's to say they didn't make Dak better? Nevertheless, Frog's statement made me take note.

I think Frog was implying they were already toast, or couldn't do much elsewhere. . He objected to my point, but helped me make it even further.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 26, 2023

TheMarathonContinues said:
Im on topic. I’m engaging with others.

Look at the thread title ....and tell me HATCHER...is the topic.

Brick I tell ya.

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