You're the owner of the Cowboys, what moves do you make in 2023

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Sign Pollard.
Cut Zeke and resign him for the minimum.
Give Josh Gordon a workout.
Draft the TCU QB.
Let Wilson walk.
I like Schultz, but I'd let him walk too.
Resign LVE
Resign Hilton
Draft OL, DL, WR and LB.

Spend the entire offseason in my yacht.
 

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1. Let Dak playout his contract then let him walk.
2. Cut, zeke and tyron, and dlaw if it saves cap
3. Resign wilson, lve, if they are under 8/year. Look to sign a decent guard maybe McGovern.
4. Im looking at trading cd and diggs, depending on the market i keep them.
5. Sign the best run stuffing DT, size and pass rush ability dont matter.
 

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Cut the fat of Jerry’s favorites:

1. Rescind the franchise tag to Tony Pollard. He can be had for less, and if someone offers him a preposterous contract then thanks for the comp pick. He’s injured and may not even be 100% next season. 11m$ on a gamble for a rotational RB is funny money.

2. June 1st designate Ezekiel Elliot

3. Trade Demarcus Lawrence, post-June1st if return isn’t high. He’s a good player but not one single season since his megadeal has he earned his cap hit. Dallas can get production at the position for much cheaper.

4. Sign Javon Hargrave. He can play 3-tech and nose tackle. Double digit sack interior linemen are rare in the NFL. Will add a unique dynamic to the pass rush.

5. Go Dline round 1, RB day 2. Last first round Dlineman Dallas drafted that worked out was 2005. Think about how bad that is, it’s been severely neglected. Beyond the Greg Hardy failure, no major FA’s since then either. You’re asking way too much of Micah. Dallas needs to start regularly spending top picks on Dline depth like they do on the Oline. It’s a big reason teams are moving on in the playoffs and Dallas isn’t. DLaw wouldn’t have been the third best Dlineman in Philly. Wouldn’t be the second best in SF. Wouldn’t be the second best in KC, or the second best in Cincy. Yet he’s the best by a mile in Dallas. That’s an issue the draft and FA need to correct.

6. Extend Dak 5 years 250m$. Long enough deal that you can move a ton of money way out and have years of lower cap hits. There is no moving off him unless you want a rebuild. He’s the QB, accept it and move on

7. With freed up money, trade for Deandre Hopkins. Try and get Gallup in the deal and you save 5m$. Hopkins-Lamb will be a top 5 NFL WR duo, and will instantly add wins to the season total.

8. Replace Dalton Schultz with much cheaper Mike Gesicki. He was neglected last year in Miami due to their downfield passing game after adding Tyreek, but got 200 targets the previous 2 years. Free Agency sleeper.

9. Let Diggs play out his 4th year without a deal, but sign Lamb now. Diggs’ price won’t go up much 2022 to 2023, so you’re not losing much, but you may find out whether he’s worth the money with that extra year.
Put in your resume asap!
 

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Cut the fat of Jerry’s favorites:

1. Rescind the franchise tag to Tony Pollard. He can be had for less, and if someone offers him a preposterous contract then thanks for the comp pick. He’s injured and may not even be 100% next season. 11m$ on a gamble for a rotational RB is funny money.

2. June 1st designate Ezekiel Elliot

3. Trade Demarcus Lawrence, post-June1st if return isn’t high. He’s a good player but not one single season since his megadeal has he earned his cap hit. Dallas can get production at the position for much cheaper.

4. Sign Javon Hargrave. He can play 3-tech and nose tackle. Double digit sack interior linemen are rare in the NFL. Will add a unique dynamic to the pass rush.

5. Go Dline round 1, RB day 2. Last first round Dlineman Dallas drafted that worked out was 2005. Think about how bad that is, it’s been severely neglected. Beyond the Greg Hardy failure, no major FA’s since then either. You’re asking way too much of Micah. Dallas needs to start regularly spending top picks on Dline depth like they do on the Oline. It’s a big reason teams are moving on in the playoffs and Dallas isn’t. DLaw wouldn’t have been the third best Dlineman in Philly. Wouldn’t be the second best in SF. Wouldn’t be the second best in KC, or the second best in Cincy. Yet he’s the best by a mile in Dallas. That’s an issue the draft and FA need to correct.

6. Extend Dak 5 years 250m$. Long enough deal that you can move a ton of money way out and have years of lower cap hits. There is no moving off him unless you want a rebuild. He’s the QB, accept it and move on

7. With freed up money, trade for Deandre Hopkins. Try and get Gallup in the deal and you save 5m$. Hopkins-Lamb will be a top 5 NFL WR duo, and will instantly add wins to the season total.

8. Replace Dalton Schultz with much cheaper Mike Gesicki. He was neglected last year in Miami due to their downfield passing game after adding Tyreek, but got 200 targets the previous 2 years. Free Agency sleeper.

9. Let Diggs play out his 4th year without a deal, but sign Lamb now. Diggs’ price won’t go up much 2022 to 2023, so you’re not losing much, but you may find out whether he’s worth the money with that extra year.
Couldn’t get past #1 as it shows you have no clue. The Cowboys know the health of Pollard better than anyone and the fact you didn’t know that,,,,,well….
 

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QB, QB and another QB…we’re going nowhere until a change is made at the most important position on the field.
 

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What moves do you make to the current roster, have at it!!!!!
You came to the right bloke. Right you are govnor.
1. I trade Sequel Elliott for a 4th rounder.
2. I, owner/GM, would sign Pollard to a 2-year no guarantees contract. If not, there is an abundance of RBs out there.
3. Draft O line, Nose tackle and QB in tha order in rounds 1-3.
4. Draft Cam Jones, Indiana LB, early in Round 4
5. Show Maher the door. Those willies will return to haunt him -- and us.
6. Exhort Quinn to give more time to young players when members of the D underperform.
7. Execute Rowdy in front of 80,000 drunken fans.
8. Build a statue to Jimmy at Jerryworld.
9. Forbid Deek to thread the needle near the goal line and ... well,o everywhere else.
10. Have the O line reset once every game to honor old blood and guts Tom Landry.

Genius, yes, but I put hard work in it, ruffians!
 

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Couldn’t get past #1 as it shows you have no clue. The Cowboys know the health of Pollard better than anyone and the fact you didn’t know that,,,,,well….
You mean like they know Gallup’s health better than anyone else? How did that work out? How about Jaylon Smith? They nailed his perfect recovery and return to form? They’re guessing at a major injury rehabilitation that hasn’t yet happened. They’re not prophets
 

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Cut the fat of Jerry’s favorites:

1. Rescind the franchise tag to Tony Pollard. He can be had for less, and if someone offers him a preposterous contract then thanks for the comp pick. He’s injured and may not even be 100% next season. 11m$ on a gamble for a rotational RB is funny money.

2. June 1st designate Ezekiel Elliot

3. Trade Demarcus Lawrence, post-June1st if return isn’t high. He’s a good player but not one single season since his megadeal has he earned his cap hit. Dallas can get production at the position for much cheaper.

4. Sign Javon Hargrave. He can play 3-tech and nose tackle. Double digit sack interior linemen are rare in the NFL. Will add a unique dynamic to the pass rush.

5. Go Dline round 1, RB day 2. Last first round Dlineman Dallas drafted that worked out was 2005. Think about how bad that is, it’s been severely neglected. Beyond the Greg Hardy failure, no major FA’s since then either. You’re asking way too much of Micah. Dallas needs to start regularly spending top picks on Dline depth like they do on the Oline. It’s a big reason teams are moving on in the playoffs and Dallas isn’t. DLaw wouldn’t have been the third best Dlineman in Philly. Wouldn’t be the second best in SF. Wouldn’t be the second best in KC, or the second best in Cincy. Yet he’s the best by a mile in Dallas. That’s an issue the draft and FA need to correct.

6. Extend Dak 5 years 250m$. Long enough deal that you can move a ton of money way out and have years of lower cap hits. There is no moving off him unless you want a rebuild. He’s the QB, accept it and move on

7. With freed up money, trade for Deandre Hopkins. Try and get Gallup in the deal and you save 5m$. Hopkins-Lamb will be a top 5 NFL WR duo, and will instantly add wins to the season total.

8. Replace Dalton Schultz with much cheaper Mike Gesicki. He was neglected last year in Miami due to their downfield passing game after adding Tyreek, but got 200 targets the previous 2 years. Free Agency sleeper.

9. Let Diggs play out his 4th year without a deal, but sign Lamb now. Diggs’ price won’t go up much 2022 to 2023, so you’re not losing much, but you may find out whether he’s worth the money with that extra year.
This is a bit of revisionist history
  • Micah was picked 12 and plays edge
  • Sam Williams was picked 56
  • Osa, Gallimore, and Golston were 3rds
  • We used a 5th and a 6th on Bohanna and Ridgeway
  • Armstrong and Lawrence are paid decent money as edge rushers (granted D-Law is overpaid)
I think you are significantly understating the draft capital Dallas has invested on the D-line. With the draft picks we've invested we actually have plenty of D-line depth, what we really need is someone to lead the defensive interior and ideally, that would be an expensive free agent IMO.
 

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This is a bit of revisionist history
  • Micah was picked 12 and plays edge
  • Sam Williams was picked 56
  • Osa, Gallimore, and Golston were 3rds
  • We used a 5th and a 6th on Bohanna and Ridgeway
  • Armstrong and Lawrence are paid decent money as edge rushers (granted D-Law is overpaid)
I think you are significantly understating the draft capital Dallas has invested on the D-line. With the draft picks we've invested we actually have plenty of D-line depth, what we really need is someone to lead the defensive interior and ideally, that would be an expensive free agent IMO.
Micah is an on ball linebacker. He’s not a defensive lineman even though he often rushes the QB. And actually playing DE is something he’s made a point to get away from in the future, as that may have been an issue with his stat drop and wear & tear

Sam Williams was not a first round pick, as was the precedent of my post

Those third round picks are also not first round picks, hence the nomenclature

3rd-6th round picks are not large draft capital. Those are typically rotational or reserve players, as are the guys Dallas has gotten with them. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that Dallas has put less draft capital in their line than 80% of the NFL.
 

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You mean like they know Gallup’s health better than anyone else? How did that work out? How about Jaylon Smith? They nailed his perfect recovery and return to form? They’re guessing at a major injury rehabilitation that hasn’t yet happened. They’re not prophets
Gallups issue was mental. Jaylon Smith made the Pro Bowl. How about Carter? See you have no clue.
 

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Gallups issue was mental. Jaylon Smith made the Pro Bowl. How about Carter? See you have no clue.
And neither do the Joneses. What guarantee is there Pollard won’t have issues? That He will have zero setbacks, he’ll be ready by training camp? There is none, yet he was paid for those assurances anyway. It’s a gamble on a backup RB making Derrick Henry money.
 

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And neither do the Joneses. What guarantee is there Pollard won’t have issues? That He will have zero setbacks, he’ll be ready by training camp? There is none, yet he was paid for those assurances anyway. It’s a gamble on a backup RB making Derrick Henry money.
It’s not a gamble if you’re getting face to face information from his Doctor.
 

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It’s not a gamble if you’re getting face to face information from his Doctor.
His doctor is also not a prophet. Did they prophecize Gallup’s mental issues? No, because how could they have any idea. If Doctors knew ahead of time of all setbacks that will occur, then none would ever occur. They can’t know how the rehab will take, which is why timetables of return this far in advance are so up in the air.
 

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Cut Zeke
Sign Dalton (Not my favorite idea but he's Dak's favorite target, we can't lose that)\
Sign D. Wilson
LVE walks
Sign Anthony Brown (The secondary went downhill fast after his injury)
Draft top tier RB (hopefully Bijan Robinson)
Let Micah play some snaps on Offense
Dan Quinn HCIW
 

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Micah is an on ball linebacker. He’s not a defensive lineman even though he often rushes the QB. And actually playing DE is something he’s made a point to get away from in the future, as that may have been an issue with his stat drop and wear & tear

Sam Williams was not a first round pick, as was the precedent of my post

Those third round picks are also not first round picks, hence the nomenclature

3rd-6th round picks are not large draft capital. Those are typically rotational or reserve players, as are the guys Dallas has gotten with them. I wouldn’t be surprised to find that Dallas has put less draft capital in their line than 80% of the NFL.
You can call it what you want but Micah doesn’t just “often” rush the QB, he pretty much does it exclusively!. And we play a four man front. He was top 5 in defensive player of the year twice in a row playing this role.

I doubt we are in the bottom 20% for draft capital spent on the d-line because over a five year period it’s:
  • Micah (1st)
  • Taco (1st)
  • Sam Williams (2nd)
  • Tristan Hill (2nd)
  • Osa 3rd
  • Golston (3rd)
  • Gallimore (3rd)
That a fair amount of draft capital in a 5 year period with a few more in later rounds also.

The fact of the matter is we are well equiped at edge, we had a very good and deep rotation, maybe D-Law isn’t the best player but he’s well and truely an NFL starter. We had a deeper rotation than both the Eagles and 49ers did, edge wasn’t the problem. In fact the defense wasn’t really the problem, the wheels fell of the offense against the 49ers, the defense was fine though as I said it really needs that one star DT (not depth).
 
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You can call it what you want but Micah doesn’t “often” rush the QB. He pretty much does it exclusively and we play a four man front. He was top 5 in defensive player of the year twice in a row playing this role.

And sure you could probably mount the 80% argument if you sneak in the O-line to muddy the waters. After all, we drafted 3 consecutive perennial pro-bowlers that negated the positions as a need for further draft picks, we then got La’el Collins in freak circumstances and likewise found Steele.

The fact of the matter is we are well equiped at edge, we had a very good and deep rotation, maybe D-Law isn’t the best player but he’s well and truely an NFL starter. We had a deeper rotation than both the Eagles and 49ers did, edge wasn’t the problem. In fact the defense wasn’t really the problem, the wheels fell of the offense against the 49ers, the defense was fine though as I said it really needs that one star DT (not depth).
No, only talking about Dline. How many teams in the NFL is Osa the best interior Dlineman? 5? Less? How many would even start Osa at all? 10? Less? How many have fewer than 2 1st round picks on their Dline? 10? Less? How many would Dexter Lawrence be far and away the best Dlineman on the team? How many would Dorance Armstrong start for? How many would Dante Fower get playing time on?

Micah covers up an incredible amount of blemishes, and a big reason they exist is Dallas’s unwillingness to invest resources in the position group. And “3rd-6th round picks” isn’t what I’m talking about. Those are not expected to be dominant game changing players. All of the other playoff team were littered with top tier Dline prospects, even teams who didn’t quite make it like Washington, Detroit, Green Bay, NYJ, etc. all except Dallas.

This is a big part of why Minnesota lost to NYG because they couldn’t stop the great Daniel Jones from carving them up. Why TB was powerless against you, and why Brock Purdy was moving down the field against Dallas but lasted only 1 drive against Philadelphia. It’s been a glaring issue for ages. In the last 25 years Dallas has drafted 4 defensive lineman in the first round, by far the fewest in the NFL, and none of them were defensive tackles. This seems okay to you?
 

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Total rebuild... Cut Zeke and Dak... Put everyone on the trade block not named Micah.
 

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This is fun... off the top of my head I would do the following. Would probably tweak the more I thought about it... Here goes.

- Hire football people that have a history of building teams from the ground up and rebuilding teams. A mix of old school and new school thought. An experienced ex head coach as well. I don't have specific names but think Bill Polian, Bill Parcels and some more recent names etc. even in if they are consulting roles. There is no salary cap on the front office so I would try and have an executive board of advisors of good people who are winners. Tony Dungy like people come to mind. You would need some younger more recent names as well obviously. You can argue who but this would be my mentality and I would do it fairly quickly.

- Try and meet with ex successful NFL owners. What worked and what didn't. There is a lot to learn in that experience.

The experience above could change and shape the rest of everything below. If you hired the experts, you should listen to them if they want to change the plans below.



- Rely on these advisors, and hire a GM. Invest in the scouting department. Take extensive time and look for the coach in waiting. Even if it's not the first year. Look for a young coach to hire long term and be patient with. I would probably hire on the offensive of the ball. Maybe not him, but an Eric Bieniemy type of hire. Easier said then done but look for a Mike Tomlin like hire on the offensive side of the ball.

- Again, no salary cap on coaching staff, hire experience coordinators that mesh with the coach to mentor him. Think Wade Philips etc. who mentored Shawn McVay. Find guys committed to being coordinators that value the continuity of keeping the organization together and pay them well. Overpay if necessary. Build a hard but fair culture with the coaching staff and treat them and their families well to keep them in Dallas. Try for retention.

- Agree with the entire staff that this is a long term plan, success won't be measured only yearly. Push the trade back in the draft philosophy. Trade your 1st for a 2nd and next years first.... that type of mentality. Trade your 3rd now for a 2nd next year understanding it's not a win now move. These trade's are available as many GM's need to win now. Take advantage of GM's trying to keep their jobs by making desperate win now moves. Do this as often as possible unless a generational talent falls to you. I've always valued early 2nd and 3rd round picks, try to maximize the number of those choices.

- Decide the identity of the team. What are the strengths of the team and how do we want to construct a roster. What positions are prioritized and salary cap considerations for each position.

- Look at the current roster and decide building blocks of the franchise. Cee Dee Lamb yes, Pollard no, Elliott no, Shultz no, LVE no, Lawrence maybe no. Dak... probably no. Release and trade where you can to obtain young players and draft pics. Rid the large numbers for average players even if it's detrimental short term.

- If you trade or release the QB, get the next one in the first round or via trade. Yes I know Brady was a 6th rounder but not often great QB's are picked out side of the 1st or early 2nd round. 4th and later QB's rarely hit and act as stop gaps. If some really intriguing winner or project falls maybe, otherwise use that pick elsewhere.

- It's ok to draft a kicker.... they score a lot of points. Maybe no Janikowski in the 1st, but you can draft one mid rounds if he's there. Your 5th round WR could easily bust, take the best kicker in the country in the 5th.

- Early on, don't spend to the cap. Salary cap space can be carried over. Do it, repeatedly early on. You can roll over millions of space. Shed the heavy contracts where you can and roll over 10's of millions in space. Do it for 2-3 years minimum. Give yourself a stash of cap space to use in the coming decade.
 

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His doctor is also not a prophet. Did they prophecize Gallup’s mental issues? No, because how could they have any idea. If Doctors knew ahead of time of all setbacks that will occur, then none would ever occur. They can’t know how the rehab will take, which is why timetables of return this far in advance are so up in the air.
:muttley::star: You really are clueless. The team Dr. Isn’t a Psychiatrist.
 
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