YR's My Meaningless Thoughts On The Game...

InmanRoshi;3610682 said:
Funny how you conveniently left 1997 off. The 1997 team finished 6-10 with a team that was talented enough to go to the NFC Championship the year before ... why didn't Aikman let his teammates know how really, really mad he was that year? I mean, according to you, all a QB has to do is let his teammates know that he's really really really mad and they'll play up to their talent level. Did Aikman take the year off?

Inman,

I remember the 1997 Thanksgiving Day game against the Titans. Oh, was Aikman ever wretched that day. If Romo had a game like that, he would be castrated.
 
Yakuza Rich;3611190 said:
So far we have one instance pointed out where Romo laced into Gurode in a game, back in 2007.
YR

And was ripped into by fans looking to make him a scapegoat because he "lost his poise". Just going to show that when fans want to find a scapegoat, they'll generally point fingers at the QB no matter what he does.

And the Dallas Cowboys offense committed stupid mistake after stupid mistake under Aikman as well. Do you not remember the 1998 playoff games against the Cardinals where Jamir Miller looked like Lawrence Taylor because the stupid Cowboys offensive line let him go through the line untouched time after time after time? Of course not, because everyone lives in revisionist history fantasy land where Aikman just glared at offensive teammates and it sent shivers down their spines and they didn't make mistakes ... I'm sure most people where shocked when I pulled up those penalty stats, because it doesn't fit in line with their revisionist history mindset.
 
InmanRoshi;3611113 said:
To sum it all up, Romo is just an easy scapegoat and dog to kick because you're mad at things that are completely beyond his control.

How can you read my original post and see me as having Romo as the scapegoat?

The entire post ripped into the team, the coaching staff, the organization and then one small blurb says I'm making Romo the scapegoat?

I don't think so.

I'm saying that to completely absolve him from this shouldn't happen either and his aloof attitude on the field doesn't help matters when a more take charge and less tolerant attitude I think would help the offense.

You've put words in my mouth and completely misquoted me in this thread. For some reason you believe that Aikman should've been the judge, jury and jailor with guys who had severe off the field issues and drug problems. All to protect Romo.

Good freaking grief.

And like I said, I only made a small blurb on Romo pointing out 2 things I don't like.

I didn't even blame him for the INT's (Bennett should've caught the first one and the bad play call and bad play by Free caused the second one).

THIS is a big part of the problem though. We completely absolve the players we *like* even though they haven't won jack squat in this league and we continue to treat them like they are rock stars. A big part of that is Jerry's fault, but the players need to realize that they are 'famous for being famous' as well.







YR
 
Manster68;3611193 said:
Inman,

I remember the 1997 Thanksgiving Day game against the Titans. Oh, was Aikman ever wretched that day. If Romo had a game like that, he would be castrated.

Yeah, and Aikman was:

1) In the twilight of his career

2) Won 3 Super Bowls by then

3) Was known as an excellent postseason QB

Gee, what could possibly be the difference there? Why in the world would Cowboys fan cut Aikman some slack and not Romo?





YR
 
Manster68;3611193 said:
Inman,

I remember the 1997 Thanksgiving Day game against the Titans. Oh, was Aikman ever wretched that day. If Romo had a game like that, he would be castrated.

Aikman had to take an epidural shot in his back just to play in that game. If Romo were faced with the same circumstances, he wouldn't take any heat.

Then again, Aikman had won 3 Super Bowls by that time. Romo has won one playoff game.
 
Yakuza Rich;3611223 said:
THIS is a big part of the problem though. We completely absolve the players we *like* even though they haven't won jack squat in this league and we continue to treat them like they are rock stars. A big part of that is Jerry's fault, but the players need to realize that they are 'famous for being famous' as well.



YR

I *like* the guy who threw for 400 yards, 3 TDs and led a great 4th quarter comeback drive, only to watch a stupid penalty and stupider special teams play give it right back.

And I can absolve him for not being Troy Aikman, a 1st ballot HOFer and probably the best QB the team ever had (depending how you feel about Roger). I mean if a guy is not the best ever he is somehow 'part of the problem'?

That's exactly what I meant earlier about setting the bar way too high. If you are going to compare every QB we ever have to Troy then you are setting yourself up for a lot of disappoint.

Look, Eli Manning probably has the worst body language of any QB I have ever seen. He looks at any moment in the game to be confused or mopey, and if things start to go wrong he visibly pouts. You can't tell me that guy is a leader of anything.

But the dude has a ring.

I'm not going to judge Romo as a worse QB because his defense didn't go on a hot streak at just the right time and carry him to the SB. In fact, when in the Romo era has this defense gotten hot and carried the team for a noticeable stretch? When have we not lived and died on Romo's arm?

I get that you're not blaming him or scapegoating him, but I think whatever leadership qualities he does or doesn't have (and I do think you are selling him short) are so far down on the list of worries its silly to me.

Akiman's leadership worked great when Jimmy had already instilled the fear of God into everyone down to the waterboys. It started to unravel quickly though when the coaches changed, the talent deteriorated, and his enforcer Irvin was carted off in Philly. You want more leadership, look to the top.
 
The real Troy Aikman couldn't even measure up to the revisionist history version of Troy Aikman fans have created in their minds, there's no way Tony ever could with this cast of clowns.
 
InmanRoshi;3610939 said:
I remember when Romo jumped all over Gurode during the Giants 2007 playoff loss walking off the field after one of Gurode's umpteen mental farts/bad snaps.

People blamed Romo for not showing leadership ability because he "lost his poise" and "showed up his teammate".

Did you see how Peyton Manning jumped all over Pierre Garcon for dropping 3 passes earlier this year? Oh wait, he didn't do that...
 
Anybody who thinks Romo can fix all the ills that has been plaguing this team since Parcell days by yelling at his teammates is clueless. What can Romo do that Parcells couldn't do? You don't think Parcells didn't have any leverage.

Only person who can fix the problem is Jerry by getting rid of some coaches and players.
 
Zman5;3612043 said:
Anybody who thinks Romo can fix all the ills that has been plaguing this team since Parcell days by yelling at his teammates is clueless. What can Romo do that Parcells couldn't do? You don't think Parcells didn't have any leverage.

Only person who can fix the problem is Jerry by getting rid of some coaches and players.

And where did I say that?

Where did I say that Romo can fix the defense?

Where did I say that Romo can fix the special teams?

Where did I say that Romo is the main problem?

Lots of angy accusations, misquoting and putting words in my mouth...but more or less deflecting the fact that Romo shouldn't be absolved of any of the blame.





YR
 
THUMPER;3610627 said:
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This isn't a well coached or well run team and hasn't been for over 15 years now. Parcells couldn't make these players play any smarter, we led the league in penalties when he was here too, so it isn't just the style of HC that is the issue, it is the style of ownership and GM that is the problem and has been all along.

Yup. Sadly, there are several significant problems with this team and many of them concern the owner whose hobby is running a NFL franchise.
 
InmanRoshi;3610608 said:
I guess this magical power of Aikman's evaporated during the Switzer and Gailey years, when the team was plagued by penalties and mental mistakes?

If we depended on Aikman to put up 400 yards and 3 TDs with zero mistakes every week for us to have a chance to win the game, like we depend on Romo to do, we're an 8-8 football team under Aikman as well. Thanks to the most dominant OL in NFL history, a hall of Fame RB, and a defense that annually finished among the Top 3 in the NFL, Aikman never had to carry his team on his back week in and week out like Romo currently has to. When the defense eroded, the OL got old and Emmitt lost a step, we saw that Aikman's "mojo" wasn't enough.


This.
 
Yakuza Rich;3610550 said:
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- Here’s something I don’t understand about this coaching staff. They seem to want to tell the entire world the gameplan. Like how heavily they are going to focus on Chris Johnson.
you don't think that's everyone's game plan? you think the Titans don't know it's everyone's game plan?
 
InmanRoshi;3610676 said:
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: Romo doesn't get criticism :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:


Romo is the most criticized career 90+ QB passer in NFL history, and it's not even close. Choice fumbles a ball? It's Romo's fault. Bennett can't catch a pass that hits him in both hands? Romo's fault. Romo merely throws for 400 yards, 3 TDs ... he should have thrown for 500 yards and 5 TDs. Romo should have designed a defensive scheme for Wade that didn't make Vince Young look like the second coming of Dan Fouts. Romo should have taught the special teams units how to tackle.


Aikman in this league, with the calls favoring the offense, would light it up... Back when he was QB, they harassed the receivers. Staubach considers him the best QB of the Cowboys, period...
 
khiladi;3612895 said:
Aikman in this league, with the calls favoring the offense, would light it up... Back when he was QB, they harassed the receivers. Staubach considers him the best QB of the Cowboys, period...

Apparently, Aikman also would have come up with a masterful gameplan for the defense during the bye, played on coverage units, covered Nate Washington, and blocked at RT and RG while playing QB.
 
So, you used to dislike Romo, then you admit last year you were all wrong about him and now when they struggle he's back to being a problem? Just want to make sure I can keep all this straight.
 
The Great Number 8;3612941 said:
So, you used to dislike Romo, then you admit last year you were all wrong about him and now when they struggle he's back to being a problem? Just want to make sure I can keep all this straight.

So, he's completely absolved from any blame?

Great. Wish those players in the locker room would think that as well.




YR
 
Yakuza Rich;3613082 said:
So, he's completely absolved from any blame?

Great. Wish those players in the locker room would think that as well.




YR

You're in the locker room?
 
casmith07;3613085 said:
You're in the locker room?

So, JFE is lying?

Perhaps she is. Wouldn't put it past her.

But other writers are reporting the same thing.





YR
 

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