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zoners on the fan they are saying that there isnt anymore of a rivalry with the cowboys and the skins. Also if the cowboys dont beat the skins that they dont deserve to make the playoffs, what do you say?

their number is 214-787-1053

their asking what is your cowboys skins memory?

i have a problem with my voice, so they hardly let me talk on the show;
 

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74 TG game with Clint Longley leading to victory from 3 TDs back after Roger got knocked silly. Commanders secondary looked like a HS team that day. To the old timers the Red Skins will always be amongst the biggest rivals. They sure looked like it a month ago in the 7-6 game.
 

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RS12;3170134 said:
74 TG game with Clint Longley leading to victory from 3 TDs back after Roger got knocked silly. Commanders secondary looked like a HS team that day. To the old timers the Red Skins will always be amongst the biggest rivals. They sure looked like it a month ago in the 7-6 game.

I was there at that game; remember it well;
thats where i learned its not over till the fat lady sings;

about 3 minutes before the game was over i started walking out, got to the end of seats by exit to walkway and heard loud cheers, i ran back in quickly and saw drew pearson in the endzone;
 
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cowboyjoe;3170125 said:
Also if the cowboys dont beat the skins that they dont deserve to make the playoffs, what do you say?
I have made this point a a couple of different threads the past 2 days.
 
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cowboyjoe;3170125 said:
their asking what is your cowboys skins memory?
Opening day in 1999 I believe.

Cowboys behind 35-14 in the 4th quarter. Aikman and Irvin lead a furious comeback to tie it at 35 at the end of regulation.

In OT, Aikman runs a perfect play action, and throws deep to Rocket Ismail for a 41-35 OT win.

That was awesome.
 

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I grew up in the 80's watcing the cowboys because my entire family are rabid cowboy fans, so needless to say I was pretty much groomed to hate the Commanders. However, over the last decade and a half I'd have to say my hatred for the giants and eagles has overwhelmingly taken over my hatred for the skins. The giants probably even moreso
 

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I agree. I do not think that the rivalry is what it used to be and I also agree if we can not beat the skins this Sunday night, that we do not deserve to go to the playoffs.
As far a Cowboy vs Commanders memories, I used to love hating the old George Allen, over the hill gang teams. When I was 9-10 years old, I remember watching the games between, Tom Landry's Cowboys and George Allen's Commanders and I would be seething, watching George Allen's hip, hip, hooray chants in the locker room. :banghead: Man I hated that team. :skins:

Ahh... good memories.
 

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RXP;3170161 said:
I have made this point a a couple of different threads the past 2 days.

whether or not we beat the Commanders, we need to get into the playoffs and win that first playoff game, so players realize what it takes, and how much more they have to work, study etc to go further in the playoffs; we must win at least one playoff game this year
 

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If our record is good enough to get us to the playoffs, then we deserve to go to the playoffs, no matter what we do against Washington.

This isn't rocket surgery, people.
 

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cowboyjoe;3170125 said:
zoners on the fan they are saying that there isnt anymore of a rivalry with the cowboys and the skins. Also if the cowboys dont beat the skins that they dont deserve to make the playoffs, what do you say?

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I am agreeing with that , been saying the same in some threads.
 

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It is not what is used to be but that is mainly because the skins have sucked for a while. If both teams are legit powerhouses then it will be back 100%.

Side note: In addition to raising my kids to be great people and respect others and so on, I do tell them we hate the Commanders and Eagles. They ask me why they should not like them and I just say, "That is just the way it is".
 

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You'd have to not have a pulse to not know that rivalry is still there.

Maybe I'm just old and alone in caring about a sort of thing like a division rivalry
 

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cowboyjoe;3170125 said:
Also if the cowboys dont beat the skins that they dont deserve to make the playoffs, what do you say?

RXP;3170161 said:
I have made this point a a couple of different threads the past 2 days.

So the 9-7 Arizona Cardinals of 2008 lost some pretty silly games last year. Did they deserve to play in the Super Bowl? They did give the Steelers a run for their money in that game.

All this "deserving" **** that is being spewed out is getting old. If the Cowboys are in, they're in, if not, then they're not. Plain and simple.
 

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My top 5 Skins/ Cowboys moments (in no particular order)

1. Knocking off 11-0 Skins in 1991
2. 23-10 thumping to kick off 1992 season
3. Aikman to Ismail, Nuff said.
4. TO destroys the Skins in 2007
5. Romo to Crayton in 2009 (my first live Boys/Skins game :) )
 

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Don Corleone;3170954 said:
So the 9-7 Arizona Cardinals of 2008 lost some pretty silly games last year. Did they deserve to play in the Super Bowl? They did give the Steelers a run for their money in that game.

All this "deserving" **** that is being spewed out is getting old. If the Cowboys are in, they're in, if not, then they're not. Plain and simple.

:hammer:

We have this argument every year. Only teams that deserve to go to the playoffs go to the playoffs. I guess you could argue this point, if it came down to the coin toss tie breaker.
 

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RXP;3170163 said:
Opening day in 1999 I believe.

Cowboys behind 35-14 in the 4th quarter. Aikman and Irvin lead a furious comeback to tie it at 35 at the end of regulation.

In OT, Aikman runs a perfect play action, and throws deep to Rocket Ismail for a 41-35 OT win.

That was awesome.

That is mine as well!! Great great win!!:bow:
 

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There has always been a bitterness between the Commanders and the Cowboys. It stems from the plotting and shenanigans of Clint Murchison and his cronies in securing a team in Dallas. Clint took great pride in getting under George Preston Marshall's skin. At one time the Dallas Cowboys owned the Commanders fight song, Hail to the Commanders. That has never happened to any other team in the NFL. The new generations of Commanders fans may not even care about this fact, but it gnaws at old time fans.

This rivalry as a great football matchup didn't really have a genesis until George Allen and the Over The Hill Gang arrived in Washington. There is a reason why Cowboys fans often say we are the Commanders Super Bowl. It is because of George Allen. He preached hatred of everything Cowboys and his players ate it up. So did the Commanders fans. The Commanders became winners under George Allen, but he made it known that they wouldn't be respected unless they could beat Dallas.

George Allen arrived in Washington in 1971. The Cowboys and Commanders had already been playing each other every year and were in the same Division. 1960 was the only year we didn't play a home and home series. They were division rivals. Allen made it a bitter rivalry.

The Cowboys had won 6 straight games and 3 season sweeps in the years before George Allen was named Commanders HC. From 1971 through 1976 the teams split the series and had some of their most brutal and memorable games. The most memorable would have to be the 1974 Thanksgiving game in which Diron Talbert knocked Roger Staubach out of the game. In came the 3rd string roookie, Clint Longley. He was one of the strangest guys to ever play for Tom Landry. He led the Cowboys to an amazing 24-23 victory. Longley was called the "Mad Bomber" for his deep passes that brought the team back.

Larry Cole called that win, "the triumph of an uncluttered mind." That described Longley to a tee. To put it mildly the mad was odd. From stories of him shooting prarie dogs from his dorm windows at Thousand Oaks during training camp, to his loading a pony into the back seat of his Cadillac to take him to a pasture owned by Charlie Waters, to his fist fight with Roger Staubach so he could get traded, Longley was just plain weird.

In 1977 the Cowboys swept the Commanders again, won their 2nd Super Bowl, and George Allen faded into the District of Columbia sunset.

The bitterness of the rivalry has lasted but it has faded a bit in intensity. The media see only the records of recent years and don't realize the History. The past History of these two teams does fuel a built in animosity for each other. Tom Landry and George Allen have left this earth but the rivalry they built does live on. Probably not with the intensity of the 1970's but it still exists.

For the media to say otherwise is pure folly and myopia. In 1989 when we won only 1 game, how many of us were satisfied that this one game was against the Commanders, in their house? I know I was. Interestingly enough that one win was a payback for 1961. That year the Commanders lone win was against us at their house. The game is best remembered for a foiled plot to release 74 white chickens and 1 black one onto the field at Commanders Stadium. The 1 black chicken was to be representative of the one Black player drafted by the Commanders after political pressure was applied by the Kennedy Administration.

In those days the NFL Drafts were held in late November or early December. The Commanders in late 1961 with a threat hanging over their head, became the last organization in the NFL to integrate. They Drafted Ernie Davis, the first Black man to win the Heisman Trophy. He was a RB for Syracuse. He also refused to play for a racist. His rights were traded to the Cleveland Browns and sadly he died of leukemia before he ever played a down in the NFL. That 1 black chicken was to be a slap in the face on National TV.

In 1962 two acrobats dressed as chickens jumped into the field during halftime and one of them released a live chicken onto the playing field. Clint Murchison loved to embarrass the Commanders and their owner.

The hatred of the rivalry has always been there, but it was most intense in the George Allen days. It has flashes of returning. For instance in 2005 when the Commanders swept us. Prior to that sweep we had streaks of 4 wins and 10 wins. More Commanders trolls showed up here on this site in 2005 after their 14-13 win in Dallas and then after the sweep than any other year. So don't tell me the rivalry isn't still alive.

If we sweep them on Sunday Night it will be their low point of the season. Don't tell them the rivalry still isn't alive either.

Get the broom Cowboys fans. There's some strange colored dirt to be swept away. Maroon, black, and yellow dirt.
 

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This is how I see it based on what I see, read, and feel:

The Commanders certainly hate the Cowboys with a passion.
The Cowboys don't like the Commanders, but I only sense hatred and bitter rivalry from some fans.
The Cowboys HATE the Giants and that feeling is mutual (with fans and players).
The Eagles and Cowboys have a strong rivalry that I feel is more about competitiveness and less personal than it is between the Giants and Cowboys.

I think the Cowboys biggest rivals in the East are (in order):

Giants
Eagles (a close 2nd)
Commanders

All division opponents are rivals, but the Commanders are definitely not the top rival any longer, and haven't been for years, in my opinion.
 
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Isnt that dirt Burgundy and Gold?

Nice write-up btw. A lot of younger fans do not understand the history of the rivalry.
 
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