The mistake of putting everything on the skill position players

Bobhaze said:
Are Cowboys fans supposed to pretend the egirls aren’t an outstanding team? While simultaneously pretending the Cowboys are outstanding as well? I love the Cowboys which is exactly why I’m frustrated by having these results we keep getting with the same man in charge.

I stated in the OP early on that I hate the egirls. But it doesn’t mean I can’t be a Cowboys fan by speaking the truth. Right now they are way better than us. I don’t like it but it’s a fact.

And this is the perfect place for Cowboys fans to state their opinions about the team and its opponents. Let’s hear some of your Cowboys opinions.
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Sounds reasonable. Sans posing views it would cease being a forum.
 
Bobhaze said:
Jerry gets criticism for his RESULTS. Playoff wins. That’s what matters. We’ve had 4 in 25 seasons. Facts.
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If you want to boil everything down to playoff or NFCCG, I get it. Particularly with Nepobaby and crew reduced to only saying he owns it and no other justification.

We're due but while 'not playoffs' is an outcome it only speaks about what the results were not and not what they were. I just feel that crowing about not getting what we want let's him off the hook.

His result was a third place conference finish and a recent history of losing talent over the offseason with some key draft misses and little to no supplementing from VFA. His result was a top heavy roster that had injuries affect the top players. We tanked.

The team is rife with poor strategic planning and execution, what used to be their only player acquisition strength in the draft is starting to deteriorate. They don't really try in the other arenas. Their coaching staff is based first on who they are comfortable which is a clear sign that they are unwelcome to change.

He should be criticized for what he is doing more than for what he is not. There is plenty there.
 
Bobhaze said:
I probably don't need to re-emphasize who the real stars of the SB were but I will anyway. The egirls (who I hate) have made it crystal clear what their cornerstones are on their team that they rely on MOST: Their trench players - OL and front 7 on D. They are hands down the league’s best. They had 6 ALL PROS this year and 4 of them were either OL, DL or LBs.

In fact if anyone really studies what Philly’s most simplified formula for winning is look no further than guys like DT Jalen Carter, LG Landon Dickerson, RT Lane Johnson, LT Jordan Mailata, LB Zack Baun, and NT Jordan Davis. Those guys dominate the LOS and make it much easier for Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown to make plays. Two of the three skill position guys - Barkley and Brown - were both FA acquisitions, not draft picks.

As we begin to prepare for the off-season with FA and the draft, I hope this front office can once and for all learn the real cornerstones we need aren’t just WRs, RBs and QBs. It’s like Jerry still thinks the only reason we were so dominant in the 90s was because of “The Triplets”. Sure that helped to have Troy, Emmitt and Michael but without Mark Tunei, Nate Newton, Erik Williams, and Charles Hailey, the Cowboys don’t win 3 SBs in the 90s.

I know we need a RB, and second WR, but honestly IMO, we need to use a lot of early draft capital acquiring some beasts. Getting good RBs and WRs are way easier than top tier trench players.

I hope our FO can finally learn triplets are only as good as the people who block and tackle in support of them.
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Getting WRs and CBs and RBs is the icing on the cake. That's for when you have the team ready by being dominant in the trenches.
 
CATCH17 said:
We need everything. Let’s face it.

DT, Edge, LB, WR, OL, RB

We need all of it.

I’m liking Tyler Warren from Penn State a lot because he’s a playmaker and he can block.
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Right, but none of it will matter until we fix DT.

Once again, the two teams in the super bowl have very strong DLines. Common.
 
rags747 said:
Not for anything but under Garrett that was Garrett’s whole mantra to build a bruising OL, Jerry was the GM during that time so don’t understand how Jerry gets pissed on again when that is exactly what they did.
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There's a ton more to building a team than a bruising OL.
 
Ranching said:
Too bad Jerry won't hire some help. We have a lot of experts around here.

One of there top scouts went to school with me, he's down for the weekend. If I see him, I'm gotta put in a good word for some of our zoners. I think, they can really help
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looking at the results probably we could do better
 
gtb1943 said:
looking at the results probably we could do better
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I am positive that there are some guys on this site who could do much better than Jethro. BobHaze, for instance. It really wouldn't be that difficult.
 
Bobhaze said:
I probably don't need to re-emphasize who the real stars of the SB were but I will anyway. The egirls (who I hate) have made it crystal clear what their cornerstones are on their team that they rely on MOST: Their trench players - OL and front 7 on D. They are hands down the league’s best. They had 6 ALL PROS this year and 4 of them were either OL, DL or LBs.

In fact if anyone really studies what Philly’s most simplified formula for winning is look no further than guys like DT Jalen Carter, LG Landon Dickerson, RT Lane Johnson, LT Jordan Mailata, LB Zack Baun, and NT Jordan Davis. Those guys dominate the LOS and make it much easier for Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown to make plays. Two of the three skill position guys - Barkley and Brown - were both FA acquisitions, not draft picks.

As we begin to prepare for the off-season with FA and the draft, I hope this front office can once and for all learn the real cornerstones we need aren’t just WRs, RBs and QBs. It’s like Jerry still thinks the only reason we were so dominant in the 90s was because of “The Triplets”. Sure that helped to have Troy, Emmitt and Michael but without Mark Tunei, Nate Newton, Erik Williams, and Charles Hailey, the Cowboys don’t win 3 SBs in the 90s.

I know we need a RB, and second WR, but honestly IMO, we need to use a lot of early draft capital acquiring some beasts. Getting good RBs and WRs are way easier than top tier trench players.

I hope our FO can finally learn triplets are only as good as the people who block and tackle in support of them.
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It's hard to win consistently if you're not strong in the trenches. We definitely need help to improve particularly at DT, DE OG, and OT. I doubt all that gets addressed in 2025, but they can make incremental improvements in house and adding a few guys into the mix.

OL wise, it's really Smith and Beebe you have confidence in to be the starters. We knew Guyton was far from a finished project coming in, but he was drafted for his potential and perhaps makes a jump in year 2. At the other guard spot Hoffman or Bass likely could be viable options and looked pretty solid with the opportunities they had. Steele at 18 million carries the 4th highest cap figure for the Cowboys and he's far from the 4th best so who knows if he will be back. Need to add another t/g to this group. If Guyton develops and they acquire another solid starter this group looks a lot better.

Dline I fear needs a lot more work, especially if Osa is gone in free agency. Then there's LDE, perhaps Kneeland takes a step forward but haven't seen enough to count on that as a possibility. They probably need 4 additions between DT and DE. This will be a work in progress.
 
CowboysRule said:
Remember when this was a site for Cowboys fans? All I ever read anymore is how great the Eagles are...
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It's a shame...used to be a great site....now it's all, Jerry sucks, Dak sucks, we should get slaughtered to embarrass Jerry, lose for draft choices....sad...even some of our leaders got suced down the sewer
 
Ranching said:
It's a shame...used to be a great site....now it's all, Jerry sucks, Dak sucks, we should get slaughtered to embarrass Jerry, lose for draft choices....sad...even some of our leaders got suced down the sewer
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So tell me…why do you complain so much about other people’s opinions on a Cowboys opinion forum? It just makes zero sense to me. Even ironic. Constantly showing up in a thread to cry about “what this site used to be.” Maybe offer something different.

Disagree with my Cowboys opinion? I welcome it. Whining about people’s right to express their opinion in a thread is the opposite of what this place is all about. Honestly, I think you are better than this.
 
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